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[Zenith]

A thought I was having with my scope dilemma for the AR15 would be instead of buying a $1,000+ illuminated variable scope, I could just buy a $300 Leupold 3-9X non illuminated and an Aimpoint PRO for $400. If I put throw-mounts on both, I can swap the Leupold on for precision (range or varmint hunting) and then have the Aimpoint on for everything else.

Heck, for the price of a really good illuminated variable I could get an Aimpoint Micro and some nice mounts for the precision scope.

 

[Michael88]

As I said, a mid range scope and a Micro Dot on a piggyback or side mount would make a great combo. Though I'd go with a 2-7x33 power scope, with 2x you can engage close range targets better so you'd need the Micro Dot only for really short distances.
The difference between 2x and 3x is huge when it comes to close range work, but the difference between 7x and 9x is negligible.

But why on earth would you want to go with a big Aimpoint PRO instead of a micro dot? The latter is MUCH smaller, lighter and can be mounted alongside a scope.

Like this:

 

[Zenith]

Because the Micro is 50% more expensive

 

[Michael88]

And its 127% cooler & more useful than the Aimpoint pro. Sounds like deal to me!

Buy a 2-7x33 Redfield for 210 bucks (with the accu reticle) and you can afford the Micro dot.

 

[a6m5]

Micro dot looks interesting, but turning & shooting rifle in angle would be bit awkward? Aimpoint PRO seems to be a red dot scope with zero magnification?

 

[Zenith]

Micro dot looks interesting, but turning & shooting rifle in angle would be bit awkward? Aimpoint PRO seems to be a red dot scope with zero magnification?

I've tried 1 o'clock irons and an offset mounted RDS before. It does work if you want to take a snap shot, but it's sub-optimal for lots of shooting. It also has an issue with weight and bulk.

 

[Michael88]

@ A6m5
If you are a right hand shooter and mount the micro dot on the right side slightly angled (1 o' clock) you don't lose your cheek weld while shooting. It may not be the best solution for shooting close targets all day long but currently its the best way to have a long(er) range optics AND the ability to shoot targets at very close range.
You can have both if you just swap scopes, but now thats really unpractical, gets annoying quick and in a desperate situation you will NOT have the time to swap scopes.
Bulk is not really an issue for me as the MD is REALLY small and weighs next to nothing.

 

[Zenith]

For clarification, when I say disadvantage of weight and bulk I'm referring to the scope, not the RDS.

Edit: I also can't think of a time where I'd need to swap to a 3-9X scope to defend my life. The idea I'm toying with is to leave the Aimpoint on until I'm at the range/varmint hunting grounds, then put it back on when I leave. The 3-9 scope is purely for fun.

 

[Michael88]

Just stumbled over this: Turnbull AR-10, case colored steel framed AR-10, an AR for the wealthy traditionalist.

Assault rifle? No ma'm, this is my traditional 5000$ dangerous game safari hunting rig.

 

[a6m5]

I might look at 2X~ whatever magnification again. I don't really want to add red dot, or swap between red dot & scope. Thanks for the input guys. 👍

That AR10 is bizarre, but I'm not gonna lie, it's a standout.

 

[Solid Lifters]

 

[a6m5]

Hmmm.... nice twist/cameo at the end.

 

[Jedi2016]

I was gonna say "Welcome to Texas...", it's more or less like that.

I did get a new gun today, Taurus TCP 738. Little pocket gun in .380. And I mean little.. about the same size as the Ruger LCP. Took it to the range on the way home from the store, shoots pretty well. Bites a bit after almost a dozen mags, but this isn't really a gun you shoot for "fun". Carries wonderfully, though.

One good thing about testing it right after buying it: I found out one of the magazines is a little messed up. The little tab that pushes up the slide lock on the last round is too small, so it misses, keeping the slide from locking back. Once, it also managed to catch the slide lock on some other part of the mag, and I couldn't get the slide to unlock, and it still had one round left. Not really sure what happened there. I'll need to call Taurus on Monday to see if I can swap it out. Still got one mag to keep in it, though.

 

[Michael88]

I have a question - could accuracy depend on the type of crimp used? I'm not talking about bullet creep under recoil or crimp tightness, I'm talking about roll va. taper crimp on a straight walled cartridge with a jacketed bullet that has a grooved crimp groove.
Does it make a difference? 💡

I hope not because then I'd have to buy a roll crimp die and discard the brass after 3-4 loads because its so hard on the case mouth. (Thats why I taper crimp all my rounds.)

 

[Michael88]

Finally! Got my parcel from the US; 4 days to fly it overseas, 7 days customs authorities. The f....?

Anyway, here is my new Lyman target sight, sooo much better then the original crude v-notch and post sight.

 

[Zenith]

Very cool looking.

I would guess that the roller crimping wouldn't make a difference. Any marks on the copper are either going to be completely minor or be made inconsequential by the rifling.

 

[Michael88]

Some say the roll crimp grabs the bullet with more force and creates more friction which causes more powder to burn before the bullet starts to move resulting in more pressure, better ignition and less powder residue.
I've never roll crimped any cartridges as its hard on the brass, but I must say that the factory roll crimped cartridges were all VERY accurate. Coincidence?

Reloading - whenever you think you know everything about it a truckload of new questions arrive out of nowhere to confuse the heck out of you.

Very cool looking.

Thanks. I've always been very pleased with American made target sights, I even have US made Mojo sights on my custom 98's.

 

[a6m5]

That is a cool rifle. 👍 How does the sight work? I can't see it from that particular ( but very sexy) angle.

One good thing about testing it right after buying it: I found out one of the magazines is a little messed up. The little tab that pushes up the slide lock on the last round is too small, so it misses, keeping the slide from locking back. Once, it also managed to catch the slide lock on some other part of the mag, and I couldn't get the slide to unlock, and it still had one round left. Not really sure what happened there. I'll need to call Taurus on Monday to see if I can swap it out. Still got one mag to keep in it, though.

I hope their customer service has improved, like someone suggested in here awhile back. I steer clear of Tauruses because of the hit & miss reviews & feedbacks.

I wish I steered clear of the Bushmasters, too. So I finally got around to playing around with the laser boresighter thing last night. First of all, it's a nifty invention. I was having fun until I jammed the front sight adjustment. I couldn't get it loose, so I ordered a proper tool from Amazon. Then charging handle jammed stuck with laser boresighter in the chamber. I tapped it loose(gently ) with a rubber mallet, it became unstuck. I know, I know, I should clean it, I should lube it.

 

[Michael88]

Its a Lyman sight, it has adjustment click screws for windage and elevation, it also has a screw for true vertical alignment. Comes with two eye pieces, a target eye piece that is very narrow and accurate and a wider eye piece that gathers more light for hunting and stuff. Its the best kind of iron sight you can have, only a scope is better.

So I finally got around to playing around with the laser boresighter thing last night. First of all, it's a nifty invention. I was having fun until I jammed the front sight adjustment. I couldn't get it loose, so I ordered a proper tool from Amazon. Then charging handle jammed stuck with laser boresighter in the chamber.

Clean and lube the gun, sight it in at 50 via looking through the barrel, some fine tuning at 100yds and you're good to go. 10 rounds, ~ 15 minutes.
Too bad I'm not your neighbor or something, I would sight that thing in for you in a couple of minutes! I love zeroing rifles, its no magic, really.

 

[a6m5]

Its a Lyman sight, it has adjustment click screws for windage and elevation, it also has a screw for true vertical alignment. Comes with two eye pieces, a target eye piece that is very narrow and accurate and a wider eye piece that gathers more light for hunting and stuff. Its the best kind of iron sight you can have, only a scope is better.

Only thing I see on there that resembling rear sight is that adjustment wheel/nut thing with tiny pin hole in it. Does that work like a ghost ring?

Clean and lube the gun, sight it in at 50 via looking through the barrel, some fine tuning at 100yds and you're good to go. 10 rounds, ~ 15 minutes.
Too bad I'm not your neighbor or something, I would sight that thing in for you in a couple of minutes! I love zeroing rifles, its no magic, really.

Something tells me that you had more practice than a average bear.

I wish you were my neighbor. If SHTF, you'd protect the neighborhood!

 

[Michael88]

Only thing I see on there that resembling rear sight is that adjustment wheel/nut thing with tiny pin hole in it. Does that work like a ghost ring?

It does, and thats actually the larger eyepiece. It looks tiny but the sight picture is very good, combined with the 110 centimeters line of sight its going to be damn accurate and very forgiving to aiming errors.
You should see the vernier sight disk on my rolling block rifle, the hole to look through is approx the diameter of a needle. If there is one single hair stuck in the hole I can't see anything.
But thats the way it is, small holes for accuracy, large holes for snap shots at close range. (Boy, this sounds so horribly wrong )

I wish you were my neighbor. If SHTF, you'd protect the neighborhood!

I dunno, I confess I know very little about preserving food and meat, in a SHTF situation I'd probably chain all people I find up to keep them as labor slaves and human livestock....
Oh, I think I'm getting a little carried away now.

 

[a6m5]

It does, and thats actually the larger eyepiece. It looks tiny but the sight picture is very good, combined with the 110 centimeters line of sight its going to be damn accurate and very forgiving to aiming errors.
You should see the vernier sight disk on my rolling block rifle, the hole to look through is approx the diameter of a needle. If there is one single hair stuck in the hole I can't see anything.
But thats the way it is, small holes for accuracy, large holes for snap shots at close range. (Boy, this sounds so horribly wrong )

My Magpul flip-up rear sight has that. You flip up the sight, then flip the front part of the eyepiece down to reveal the larger hole.

I dunno, I confess I know very little about preserving food and meat, in a SHTF situation I'd probably chain all people I find up to keep them as labor slaves and human livestock....
Oh, I think I'm getting a little carried away now.

It reminded me of "The Road". Awesome film(but very dark), if you haven't seen it.

 

[Eric.]

So I've been trying to find a Mosin Nagant that isn't going for double the price, kind of giving up. And for some reason I've started looking at some "budget" bolt action rifles. The Remington 783 has caught my attention. It comes in 270 Winchester, 30-06 Springfield, 308 Winchester, and 7mm Remington Magnum calibers. I'd only be using it for target shooting, so could someone give me a rundown of the pros/cons of those calibers and which I'd be best off with? A little bit of ammo shopping looks like the .308 is the only affordable option there, but I'm having trouble finding the rifle in that caliber.

 

[a6m5]

It's one thing if you are trying to buy a semi-auto(to beat the potential ban), but I'm thinking that right now must be the worst time to buy a bolt-action, at least price and/or availability wise.

I have zero experience with bolt-action, but am often told to avoid the cheap stuff, including entry rifles from brands like Remington & Ruger. Personally(again, keep in mind, I know nothing), if I wanted to get a lower end bolt-action, I'd wait until I stumble onto something like a used Remington 700.

I think .308 is a good choice. Good balance of power, price & availability I think. 👍

 

[Eric.]

Well I haven't found reviews complaining about quality or anything on the 783, as opposed to the 770.

I probably won't get anything, I know it'll get expensive when I go to get a scope and bipod for it. I have other hobbies where that money would be better spent.

 

[arora]

I'd find an older rem in 270, they are solid and with the lighter round the barrel won't be burned out. It would be plenty for target plinking. I could be biased, I like 270's even though I don't own one I've shot plenty, the best bolt I ever had was a 264 win mag, FLAT shooter that was.

 

[a6m5]

You know what, I was thinking of 770.

 

[Michael88]

Get a Marlin XL-7 or a Stevens (Which is essentially a Savage). There is a F-ton of aftermarket available for them and they should run for 300-400 NIB. Very high quality guns for little money.
As a6m5 suggested .308 is definitely they way to go.

Personally, I'd stay away from Remington, the quality in their economy class firearms has always been really underwhelming.

And it doesn't have to get expensive, Redfield Scopes can be had for ~ 200 bucks + Leupold mount rings for 50.

It reminded me of "The Road". Awesome film(but very dark), if you haven't seen it.

Its one of my favorite films! 👍

 

[Jet Badger]

Sorry for not being relevant but today I've seen a Mythbusters episode where they strapped a paintball gun to a car's bonnet. It had a remote control joystick in the interior and it was the most awesome thing I've ever seen. I mean why isn't there a such commercial entertainment? A fleet of cars with paintball machineguns!

 

[Zenith]

Eric, if money is an issue getting a surplus Russian rifle might be the ticket. They're nothing to hang on your wall, but surplus ammo (7.62x54R, 5.45x39, 7.62x39) is so cheap that it'll allow you to shoot more. .308 is a great caliber and I'll be sure to do some research for you, but nothing can match the bang for buck of spam cans of Russian ammo lovingly hand packed by Russian peasants.