Reasons GT5 was "pushed back" to 2010?

[astrosdude91]

The licenses do not entitle you to promote the cars in the advertised product unless you have the license or have worked out an agreement with the license holder.

Oh so PD can do anything without the license, just not promote it? I was under the assumption that they couldn't even look at a Porsche without a license. My mistake. Now suddenly, the prospect of Porsche in GT5 looks alot more promising! Not to mention that Porsche is mentioned frequently in GTPSP.

 

[djanikowski]

Correction: iRacing has the license for the Chevrolet Impala SS and the Chevy Silverado, Not the NASCAR license... YET... The official NASCAR affiliation and series begins in 2010. Its comparable to what PD has with Formula One. They have the license with Ferrari's F1 car, but not the actual series.

I know they don't have all of the cars yet, but there was a story on NASCAR.com about iRacing getting the license for the series before Polyphony announced NASCAR, but the license is open to anyone NASCAR decides to give it to, not just one company as it was with EA.

 

[Kryz11]

My reason why GT5 is in such long development, they are improving Damage system because from first time it was on the demo, people wanted more, even Kaz mention that he will wait for peoples reaction on how GREAT they would like to go.

Also maybe more in game stuff to do like body kits, maybe livery maker, movie editor... and track editor?

Hmm what else, they are still in stages on testing out diffrent weather effects as well dynamic night and day cycles.

I am sure once they play FM3, and other competition games, they really told themselves that everything from their list has to be out by day one on the disc.

 

[Leadfoot53]

I know they don't have all of the cars yet, but there was a story on NASCAR.com about iRacing getting the license for the series before Polyphony announced NASCAR, but the license is open to anyone NASCAR decides to give it to, not just one company as it was with EA.

NASCAR had an exclusive agreement with EA from 2004-2009. The announcement was that iRacing will obtain the license in 2010 AND organize a sanctioned series.

 

[djanikowski]

NASCAR had an exclusive agreement with EA from 2004-2009. The announcement was that iRacing will obtain the license in 2010 AND organize a sanctioned series.

I see.

 

[Kryz11]

So NASCAR GT5 can only have official license cars, as well not the complete series just few tracks and GT's style series?

 

[turbomp301]

I think it was pushed back because it wasn't done yet.

I give that a yes and a no... because of the nature of how they are doing GT5 I really do believe it is pretty much done whenever they want it to be done (ie they can just ship it tomorrow and we will have cars driving around tracks). But the fact that KY and PD didn't seem to have a firm list of what was going to define done until recently (actually KY's constantly elusive statements make me think there still isn't really anything solid) kind of makes it hard to say "it wasn't done" as a reason... it's kind of like drawing a really long line... how do you know when it's done? I guess when you don't feel like you need to draw more.

You are weird.

 

[MacBaby]

Porsches or RUFs, it doesn't matter to me, they look and drive the same. In videogames at least.

By the way, does anyone know, if RUF has a clause in the contract with videogame developers, concerning that their cars may not sound like they make a lot of noise? Cause in both Test Drive Unlimited and GT4, the RUF's make almost no enginesound in the "cockpit", nor on the exterior view. I first thought it might be a bug in TDU, but when i also heard, or not heard them in GT4, then i became suspecious?

 

[Devedander]

You are weird.

You smell funny.

 

[pricey2003]

You're all geeks

But seriously i bumped into an old friend from school on the train today, he now works as an in house tester for sony liverpool (i said i'll come round to his house and help him test but it turns out thats not what in house meant lol) Anyhow, he said GT5 was a certain Dec 09 release and they only heard rumors of March about 2 days before it was announced. He did say that there was a couple of dudes from naughty dog at sony liverpool last week showing the teams some cool tricks (he used bigger words i have now forgotten). One of their next stops was Polyphony Digital. He also said that there MAY be a Destruction Derby development starting at sony liverpool in 2010. Hope so.

 

[AleksandarSRB]

Game simply is NOT finished!!!! Game have 1000 cars each car is in developed 6 months that is reason why they need 5 and half years.

 

[MacBaby]

Game simply is NOT finished!!!! Game have 1000 cars each car is in developed 6 months that is reason why they need 5 and half years.

That doesn't makes sense. If each car were to be developed in six months, then the game would take 500 years to produce.

 

[pricey2003]

6 months worth of "man hours" i think.

 

[arvin charles]

Porsches or RUFs, it doesn't matter to me, they look and drive the same. In videogames at least.

By the way, does anyone know, if RUF has a clause in the contract with videogame developers, concerning that their cars may not sound like they make a lot of noise? Cause in both Test Drive Unlimited and GT4, the RUF's make almost no enginesound in the "cockpit", nor on the exterior view. I first thought it might be a bug in TDU, but when i also heard, or not heard them in GT4, then i became suspecious?

Porsche & Rufs don't drive the same. That's like comparing a Mine's R34 with a Skyline gts-t.

Many, many differences. Turbos, AWD, NA, different spec levels. Heck, I can't even say that a GT3 drives the same as a Turbo and nor does the Turbo drive like a Carrera. Every single one of them has different characteristics.

I don't know how TDU recorded their sounds, so I can't comment on that. GT4's sound just sucked.

 

[Leadfoot53]

So NASCAR GT5 can only have official license cars, as well not the complete series just few tracks and GT's style series?

No. Since the EA license expires in 2010, it will be sort of like how it was pre-2003. Any company can use official aspects of NASCAR in their games IF NASCAR allows it.

 

[Sureboss]

The EA exclusive license has expired.

 

[FLASH48]

Because PD hasn't spent the whole 60 million yet?

 

[Stonemonkey]

It's probably the best for the TV, but it's far worse for the game and the console and far worse in the big picture of sales, profit, revenue streams and market infiltration.

Basically it would be akin to saying "we could market our new swimsuit in the spring alongside our redesigned and price cut designer flip flops everyone is raging about or we could release it in the fall alongside our new car that has a special compartment for swimsuits. Hmmm well in spring everyone already has swimsuits so let's go with fall and hope it helps our car sales."

It might not be "no logic" but it's not good logic

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/nov/19/sony-profit-targets-3d-tv

Is it really so crazy to think Sony may use GT5 to launch this strategy?

 

[TRC GeorgiaDawg]

As far as I'm concerned, PD can take all the time they need to get this game right. I'm coming off of 2 regretful purchases of so called sim racing titles on the Xbox (Race Pro, FM3...was smart enough to not fall for the Shift hype) that were rushed out, unfinished in many ways and full of bugs and glitches.

Take your time PD, get it right and you will straight up own the entire market of console vidoe game racers

 

[happycorey]

To everyone that says "There was no delay!" ********, you're all basically saying "I didn't believe/get excited over the Q4 2009 pamphlet"

 

[Lucas]

To everyone that says "There was no delay!" ********, you're all basically saying "I didn't believe/get excited over the Q4 2009 pamphlet"

I didn't believe/get excited over the Q4 2009 pamphlet, because as always, I'm prepared for the worse. Plus, I listened to wise members.

Something more you want to say? The game wasn't delayed, as far as we know. End of discussion.

 

[happycorey]

I guess I just can't win. The game was delayed. End of discussion

 

[cletus 669]

It will be out in March/April. End of discussion!

 

[Rocker]

But I just want to play NOW! GAHHHH!!!!

Sorry, I need to get it out of my system. How to wait another 5 months?

:idea:I suppose I could start working on cockpit redux, but that will only take a week.

 

[Devedander]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/nov/19/sony-profit-targets-3d-tv

Is it really so crazy to think Sony may use GT5 to launch this strategy?

Crazy to think they will now that they can't tie into PS3 slim and Xmas 09 assuming GT5 does release around the time of the 3D TV? No.

Crazy to think it was the idea all along or the better of the two ideas... well pretty much... yes.

The tie in between GT5 and PS3 sales would have been much more relavent and have a larger direct impact than with the launch of a 3D TV.

 

[LaBounti]

After they saw what FM3 had to offer they did the right thing by giving the game more time and lots more content then FM3. Greater Value and a ZR-1, F458, GT-R, SLS AMG and who know what else PD has in there. possible more than "20" locations.

 

[edward_v12]

In Japan, April is a beginning of financial term of 2010.
Shipped GT5 and console in March, become the SCE profit after April.
this term has Final Fantasy XIII.
It seems that just a purpose to separate profit for the next term.
Yamauchi is not just president of PD, but one of SCE corporate executive, too.

 

[SuperCobraJet]

I didn't believe/get excited over the Q4 2009 pamphlet, because as always, I'm prepared for the worse. Plus, I listened to wise members.

Something more you want to say? The game wasn't delayed, as far as we know. End of discussion.

Yes, there is something more that needs to be said on this and this will be about the 3rd time I've posted on it.

The fact that GT5 was delayed is as plain as 1+1+2=4.

The only reason it was not officially announced is because the suits at Sony didn't have the guts, honesty, or leadership to declare their decision openly. Instead they chose to dump it on Kaz and let him deal with it. Wow talk about having to take one for the team.

E3, Kaz announces he will not answer any questions aout GT5. What ? ( this is one of, if not the most anticipated Sony titles to be expected to release after 4 years ??????) Thats 1.

Gt on PSP is announced to be released in October. Thats 2.
Study Kaz's presentation on this at E3.
It is the most forced, contorted, pressured demeaner I think I have ever seen. The man looked like someone was holding a gun to his head. He could barely force a weak smile and that was only at the end. Thats the other 1.

1+1+2=4 or in other words = delay of GT5.

Thats my take and I'm sticking to it.


Edit: One more thing about this that I believe proves this point.

GT on PSP commercials playing on NASCAR races. Those knuckleheads at Sony actually believe they are going to sell us this crap when it obviously caused the delay in GT5? I don't know of anything they could have done that would infuriate me any more.

 

[cudadude2]

Yes, there is something more that needs to be said on this and this will be about the 3rd time I've posted on it.

The fact that GT5 was delayed is as plain as 1+1+2=4.

The only reason it was not officially announced is because the suits at Sony didn't have the guts, honesty, or leadership to declare their decision openly. Instead they chose to dump it on Kaz and let him deal with it. Wow talk about having to take one for the team.

E3, Kaz announces he will not answer any questions aout GT5. What ? ( this is one of, if not the most anticipated Sony titles to be expected to release after 4 years ??????) Thats 1.

Gt on PSP is announced to be released in October. Thats 2.
Study Kaz's presentation on this at E3.
It is the most forced, contorted, pressured demeaner I think I have ever seen. The man looked like someone was holding a gun to his head. He could barely force a weak smile and that was only at the end. Thats the other 1.

1+1+2=4 or in other words = delay of GT5.

Thats my take and I'm sticking to it.

1. I agree 100%


2. Those that dont

have a sip.

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[Stonemonkey]

Crazy to think they will now that they can't tie into PS3 slim and Xmas 09 assuming GT5 does release around the time of the 3D TV? No.

Crazy to think it was the idea all along or the better of the two ideas... well pretty much... yes.

The tie in between GT5 and PS3 sales would have been much more relavent and have a larger direct impact than with the launch of a 3D TV.

I think we'll just have to agree to differ on this too, I see that artlicle as Sonys long term plan to be one of the leaders in 3D entertainment, no other manufacturer can offer what Sony can and gaming is going to be a major part of that so including such a game as GT5 in that strategy would be a massive trump card against their rivals (who are only making TVs and possibly blu-ray players) and I don't see much benefit of a christmas tie in of Gt5+Ps3 slim other than very short term.