Relaxed, General FH3 Chat
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- Shirrako
Credit given, no permission is required though, these are not real life photographs, therefore those that take them, do not own them in any way, Forza horizon 3 is the property of Microsoft Studios whom I am in a partnership with, re-using any assets by the community is allowed for promotional purposes.
I do upload a lot of videos so things slip sometimes, be sure to hit me up with a message if you guys spot anything, thanks for informing me of the mistake
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Thanks I guess?Credit given, no permission is required though, these are not real life photographs, therefore those that take them, do not own them in any way, Forza horizon 3 is the property of Microsoft Studios whom I am in a partnership with, re-using any assets by the community is allowed for promotional purposes.
I do upload a lot of videos so things slip sometimes, be sure to hit me up with a message if you guys spot anything, thanks for informing me of the mistake
Might not want to sound so much like a dick though, you think you can have some common courtesy and atleast let someone know youre going to use their work even though its not "theirs." We're all part of the same community so it would help to be a bit more thoughtful.
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Just out of curiosity, how would you feel if Microsoft pulled that move on you and used all your videos to generate profit for them and not yourself? I'm not assuming you make money on your videos - just wondering if you'd simply be happy that work you spent hours making was claimed by the next 'level up' and then generated income for that next level.Credit given, no permission is required though, these are not real life photographs, therefore those that take them, do not own them in any way, Forza horizon 3 is the property of Microsoft Studios whom I am in a partnership with, re-using any assets by the community is allowed for promotional purposes.
I do upload a lot of videos so things slip sometimes, be sure to hit me up with a message if you guys spot anything, thanks for informing me of the mistake
The photographers in these games are insanely talented, it baffles me just how much effort people make to create some of these photos across the racing genre. Same goes for the livery editors who unfairly get their liveries unfairly stolen. It shouldn't be a defense that it's 'legal', it's legal to cut someone in line but it doesn't mean you should.
It does happen all too often, I've seen articles written by myself (or GTP staff in general) that are clearly ripped for other places without citing sources. It isn't a nice feeling.
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- Shirrako
Microsoft has all the right to re-upload any videos I make from their games, they are legally the owner of the content therefore I cannot complain on the matter.
Liveries are made and shared online for the purpose of re-using, profiting from making videos for liveries made by other people is legally allowed, credit is an optional choice in the case, the creator of pictures/liveries for these games cannot take any legal action in these situations as they do not own any right to them.
As I previously mentioned, I don't want to be that guy and always credit other creators, it slips at times, instead of whining behind my back why not directly message me to check on the situation?
I'm aware that crediting sources is important, however before publicly complaining about the matter, check with the person behind the issue, sometimes it's a simple mistake, making the creator aware of it is a solution, not creating public drama (not referring to you, the few posts above).
Quick tip, message a person or website if you consider your work "stolen" instead of blindly complaining on a forum, you're not solving the issue. When you are ignored by the certain source of the stolen content, then you have a problem.
@SlipZtrEm Reffering to your post, ensure you tag/message the person before posting accusations and trying to make people look like criminals in the shadows, not solving anything. Thanks to the member that tagged me and made me aware of the posts I managed to correct any mistakes.
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The only mention of stolen I made was in reference to the people who create liveries. 'Stolen' is an extreme term but in that example the person uploading other people's work is actually taking credit for creating it. I don't think any of the other points being discussed account to being 'stolen'.
Legality and morality usually go hand-in-hand, just because you can do something doesn't mean you should. That was my point, you felt the need to point out what you did was not legally wrong rather than just apologizing (as you did, of course). Nobody pulled the legal card until you did, which was a bit defensive.
I was just more curious how you'd interpret things from your point of view in regard to the videos you obviously take a long time to create, not taking a pop.
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You keep saying that but go on to try to justify the actions because it was "legal." You're missing the point, or purposely going around it as if it wasn't the morally wrong thing to do. If you want to come across as a dick, I suppose you can keep taking the route your taking, as all it comes across as "I can do whatever I want, but because you guys said something I guess I'll do this, even though I don't give two craps either way." It says a lot about your character. It's reading very much like a half hearted apology, not really concerned with the action either way, but just trying to pretend you're some "nice guy."
As for whining, I'm not sure who was? We waited for a response from you before anything was even said on the matter.
That's literally exactly what happened. I did not post anything about it until you came in and posted why. No one chastised you before hand, so I'm not sure why you're pretending it to be as such. So lets not try to pretend something happened, when it didn't. It wasn't until your off-putting reply that I replied the way I did.
Quick tip, have a bit of common courtesy, in your actions, as well as your replies on the subject.
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No that's not what happened, I had no direct messages on GTPlanet, Youtube or any other social media website to make me aware that I need to make a correction, consider the issue from my side, I upload 1-8 videos daily, it's bound to happen that at some point crediting will slip, be more reasonable and get in touch if you have a problem, you did not contact me in any way.
You can complain in the future as much you desire, if you have any complains, get in touch with the creator, have a bit of common knowledge, you've made a lot of impact with your posts on the matter, wouldn't even read them if it wasn't for another member.
@RandomCarGuy17 did tag me, otherwise I would never even read any of these posts, so thanks for that CarGuy!
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You had a direct tag in this thread, so why bombard you with messages, as you would have seen it anyways? You had even edited it before I replied, so I figured you'd get here sooner or later to respond. There was no need for me to message you as I figured you would have replied anyways. So I waited. So no, that didn't happen.
I have no issue that you slipped up, I was slightly bothered that you ninja edit'ed the post, but still, I waited for you to reply anyways before I came to any conclusion. What bothers me is how you come across to try to justify your actions, and how you approached the subject. Sure you don't have to ask, but why would you go to that measure to try to portray yourself like that in the first place? You forgot? that's perfectly reasonable and fine, but the way you say you can basically do what you want almost negates that fact in the first place.
When you get some common courtesy on the subject, I'll get some common knowledge. So that way we can both be happy.
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Robot, I don't get on GTPlanet daily as I am quite busy in my daily life, I do understand the situation from your view, and make no mistake, I respect your work and intend have all the intention to credit you or anyone else, I am simply clearing up the situation since @SlipZtrEm posted that without making me aware, trying to make me look intentionally evil by not crediting, when it was a simple slip which happens to every creator on a big scale of content.
What was surprising to me is that I was away from GTPlanet for about 2 weeks, I logged on the exact same day I got tagged in the post, great timing
If the situation happens with me or any other creator in the future, messaging on 2 different websites is the best way to figure out if they are ignoring you or simply skipped the post.
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Again, the problem was not that you didn't respond, its what you responded with. You may not come on all the time, but you managed to see it the very same day it was posted, within a couple of hours of your tag as I replied 1.5 hours after that, so you're on enough(or caught it at the right time), and I knew you'd be back since you had edited it. No one made you out to make you the "Evil" one, just bringing to our attention that our work was somewhere else, and left it up to us to decide our own actions from there. The only thing that would have made you seem that way is the way you replied about the matter, not anything else. Although, "evil" is a bit extreme of a word.
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When i am accused of stealing content and making it seem as if I do not credit people without double checking on other videos (Yes, I do credit people when using their work, music, images, videos etc)
Asking for permission is the incorrect way to claim ownership of in-game pictures, which is why I wanted to inform you legally as to why you shouldn't take that approach as it simply does not work like that.
Brb, re-uploading all of @Shirrako's videos as my own.
Yep, this post clearly intends to say i am a thief (in a sarcastic way at least)
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If you think I'm calling you a thief that's more paranoia than anything. It was just a light hearted joke. Apologies if it offended you.When i am accused of stealing content and making it seem as if I do not credit people without double checking on other videos (Yes, I do credit people when using their work, music, images, videos etc)
Asking for permission is the incorrect way to claim ownership of in-game pictures, which is why I wanted to inform you legally as to why you shouldn't take that approach as it simply does not work like that.
Yep, this post clearly intends to say i am a thief (in a sarcastic way at least)
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I fail to see anyone who has accused you of stealing.
Yet, no one was mentioning any sort of legality so I'm unsure why you would keep saying it. What does work is having a bit of common courtesy and at least letting someone know that you're going to be using their photos, and that's all I've asked. You're obviously doing this to extend out to the community, yet everything you're saying just makes you out to be the complete opposite.
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I made a single post (that you've attributed all sorts of nonsense to) on a public forum you are a member of, quoting the images from the members that actually created them, as it seems only fair to let them know their work is out there.
It's telling how quickly you go on the defensive here. Nobody accused you of stealing. When we post an article on the front page and forget to credit a community member — yep, everyone does forget from time to time — we apologize and add it in. You silently edited it in, without so much as a "sorry" and responded with a comment that you are free to do as you please.
While legally it's true, it's not exactly a community-friendly approach. Crediting folks is simple common courtesy.
This is the third time you've tried telling a member of staff what to do. It'll work about as well as it has the previous times, when you made up claims about Sony/Evo Studios/Polyphony.
You know what they say about assumptions.
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Everyone cooled down now?
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Everyone cooled down now?
I'm like jello in the fridge. Chill.
Also, I jiggle when you poke me.
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*poke*
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Forza horizon 3 and also Forza 6 Error Too many save files of this type. Tune setup saves.
I only have 100 cars and about 150 tune files saves on Forza horizon 3 and I got this error Too many save files of this type. If you don't delete your Tune setup saves before you sell you cars you will get stuck with this Error Too many save files of this type. Theres a limit as to how many tune setups you can save. I've discovered when you save a tune setup to a car then sell it the tune stays with your save game file even though you sold the car with no way of deleting them if you no longer have those cars. I found this out by buying back some cars I sold and sure enough my tune setup saves were there and I deleted them and was now able to install more tune setups. There's a option to delete Paints after you sell the car if you get to many but no way to delete tunes setup saves after you no longer own the car. They need to fix it so when when we sell our cars it deletes the saved tune files from our saved game file or add a option to delete them like Paints and photos.
I only have 100 cars and about 150 tune files saves on Forza horizon 3 and I got this error Too many save files of this type. If you don't delete your Tune setup saves before you sell you cars you will get stuck with this Error Too many save files of this type. Theres a limit as to how many tune setups you can save. I've discovered when you save a tune setup to a car then sell it the tune stays with your save game file even though you sold the car with no way of deleting them if you no longer have those cars. I found this out by buying back some cars I sold and sure enough my tune setup saves were there and I deleted them and was now able to install more tune setups. There's a option to delete Paints after you sell the car if you get to many but no way to delete tunes setup saves after you no longer own the car. They need to fix it so when when we sell our cars it deletes the saved tune files from our saved game file or add a option to delete them like Paints and photos.
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It would be wise to change your mindset going forward. If you think being partnered with the developer automatically gives you the same rights to those images as them, you'll be mistaken; that's their content, not yours, so a developer is more than free to do whatever they want as it's in their terms of agreement.
Otherwise, if you are using images taken by others & passing them on as your own for personal benefit, esp if that involves financial gain, you better believe folks will find ground to file suit against you & I'm sure the developer will step in as well as you are using the efforts of others for your benefit without credit.
