Ridiculously Overpriced Cars

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Lexus LS Hybrid

Starting Price: $112,000

 

[xNEVER-ONEx]

Never, which is what struck me as odd that he just happened to see 3 or 4 of them....

As for the topic, these when they first came out.

A Caddy for the price of a new BMW 6-Series/M6 at the time, but incapable of doing anything better in comparison. I'm surprised these have managed to turn around & hold some value.

Well, as long as its on par with the BMW, then shouldn't it hold similar value. Its a pretty solid car, built on the Corvette I think.

 

[McLaren]

Well, as long as its on par with the BMW, then shouldn't it hold similar value. Its a pretty solid car, built on the Corvette I think.

It doesn't do anything near as good as the BMWs. The only reason its been holding it's value is bc they made a small amount of them.

 

[the_stig_1]

Aston Cygnet
I'm sorry, why pay more than a base E-Class for a Toyota IQ

 

[Grayfox]

Ferraris

 

[theotherspongey]

Ferraris

 

[Greycap]

I don't think there's any reason to roll your eyes at that comment. Here in Finland a GT-R '11 costs 144.500€ off the dealership floor. Well, it's ridiculously overpriced itself compared to some other countries but that's not the point. The point is that a second hand California '10 costs 349.000€. Even F430s range from 197.000€ for a '05 model to 299.800€ for a '09 model and the F430 isn't anywhere close to a super exclusive model which would justify the price.

 

[theotherspongey]

I don't think there's any reason to roll your eyes at that comment. Here in Finland a GT-R '11 costs 144.500EUR off the dealership floor. Well, it's ridiculously overpriced itself compared to some other countries but that's not the point. The point is that a second hand California '10 costs 349.000EUR. Even F430s range from 197.000EUR for a '05 model to 299.800EUR for a '09 model and the F430 isn't anywhere close to a super exclusive model which would justify the price.

Maybe because there not mass produced like GT-R's?

 

[Jondot]

Evening all!

£16,300 for an impractical, hideous, not-all-that-brilliant to drive faux retro mess with a 98hp 1.6 litre engine.

 

[Joey D]

I think all MINI's are overpriced. When I was pricing out a new one to replace my previous Cooper, I speced one at over $30,000. I got a better equipped, bigger Focus for $5,000 less.

And Jon you guys get a 98hp 1.6L in the Countryman? I think ours is at least 118hp if not a little more. It's still woefully underpowered though.

 

[amazeCRAZE]

The Jeep Liberty is actually worth 20% less than it's actual MSRP of 25k.

 

[MedigoFlame]

A top spec Toyota Prius with almost all options is on the mid-high $30k range... Also the BMW 1-series hatchback is a lot for a 5-door with useless backseats.

 

[Mike0105]

I think all MINI's are overpriced. When I was pricing out a new one to replace my previous Cooper, I speced one at over $30,000. I got a better equipped, bigger Focus for $5,000 less.

And Jon you guys get a 98hp 1.6L in the Countryman? I think ours is at least 118hp if not a little more. It's still woefully underpowered though.

The UK and EU market gets a 98bhp One, a 122bhp Cooper and a 184 Cooper S. We also get 90bhp One D, 112bhp Cooper D and a 143bhp Cooper SD, the D being Diesel.

The best would be the Cooper SD, getting very a good MPG and BHP balance. It's never going to be very fast though. The petrol Cooper S is just a bit pointless.

All are priced in accordance with the badge, i.e. too much.

 

[Wiegert]

I'd say the worst of the overpriced Astons is the Cygnet... Rebadged Toyota iQ.

Yes, it's definitely overpriced.

You could pay upwards of £30,000 for what is essentially a re-badged iQ, or you could buy a decent second-hand DB7 which costs about £5,000 less. I certainly know which one I would go for, although if you wanted a small, modern city car rather than a used V12 Coupe, then why not just buy the car which the Cygnet is based on?

 

[MarinaDiamandis]

Yes, it's definitely overpriced.

You could pay upwards of £30,000 for what is essentially a re-badged iQ, or you could buy a decent second-hand DB7 which costs about £5,000 less. I certainly know which one I would go for, although if you wanted a small, modern city car rather than a used V12 Coupe, then why not just buy the car which the Cygnet is based on?

A decent, second-hand DB7 will cost £5,000 a year to run!
Pick two: Cheap, Reliable, Fast. Whichever is left is what the car won't be.
There are exceptions to this rule, obviously, but a second-hand DB7 is not one of them!

 

[Prosthetic]

A decent, second-hand DB7 will cost £5,000 a year to run!
Pick two: Cheap, Reliable, Fast. Whichever is left is what the car won't be.
There are exceptions to this rule, obviously, but a second-hand DB7 is not one of them!

You can get cheap, reliable and fast. It depends on what your opinion of fast, and cheap is.

 

[Mike0105]

You can get cheap, reliable and fast. It depends on what your opinion of fast, and cheap is.

Sub £10k, 4 years warranty left and very well built, less that 20k miles when bought, 140bhp and near enough 60 UK MPG. Add in some toys and leather and my KIA stacks up very well!

Fast enough for the time being for me.

 

[Wiegert]

A decent, second-hand DB7 will cost £5,000 a year to run!
Pick two: Cheap, Reliable, Fast. Whichever is left is what the car won't be.
There are exceptions to this rule, obviously, but a second-hand DB7 is not one of them!

Yes, I know (using another Aston Martin as an example probably wasn't the best idea). I was only referring to the amount of money it would cost to buy each car, not how much each car would cost to run. I understand that the DB7 isn't exactly cheap in that respect (far from it actually), but wouldn't someone who is willing to pay around £30,000 for a car such as the DB7 worry too much about running costs?

Alternatively, if someone had £30,000 and they wanted to buy something more frugal in terms of running costs like the Cygnet, then what's stopping them from buying something that's half the price like the iQ instead?

 

[Jim Prower]

Basically, what you pay for in a Cygnet is a supercar-level hand-made interior. Which is kind of writing checks the rest of the car can't cash.

"hey, this feels pretty good! Let's see what it can do...."

"vrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrn"

"Oh dear..."

 

[Prosthetic]

Sub £10k, 4 years warranty left and very well built, less that 20k miles when bought, 140bhp and near enough 60 UK MPG. Add in some toys and leather and my KIA stacks up very well!

Fast enough for the time being for me.

I was thinking along the lines of late 60's Mustangs or a Miata. But I guess that works too.

 

[MedigoFlame]

The "people's car"

BMW 5-Series GT (Hideous pointless thing, better off with the wagon)

R-Class

X6M and X5M

 

[Stotty]

The new Range Rover Evoque.

£40k for one with 4WD in a decent spec... and it comes with just 148bhp from its 2.2l diesel... a X1 may look like a dog, but it costs 10k less and has 181bhp.

 

[CMvan46]

Lexus LFA, £300k for a car that is no faster in the real world than a 458 Italia.

If I had the money I'd buy one. Looks absolutely incredible and they were only a very limited time production car. Can't buy one new in Canada anymore.





Honda Accord Crosstour. $40k CAD for one which is basically a different body on an accord sedan frame and engine. They are ugly, heavy, blind spots galore, and why would you buy one over a regular accord?

 

[Jondot]

The new Range Rover Evoque.

£40k for one with 4WD in a decent spec... and it comes with just 148bhp from its 2.2l diesel... a X1 may look like a dog, but it costs 10k less and has 181bhp.

I was tempted to mention this. It is terrifically expensive for something of its size and spec. Very close to essentially being a designer handbag. Having said that the full size Range Rover isn't exactly good value, and it is priced in line with that. And I think it's fair to say it's probably £10k better at being a 4x4 than the X1.

 

[MarinaDiamandis]

You can get cheap, reliable and fast. It depends on what your opinion of fast, and cheap is.

Hence why I said that there were exceptions.

 

[Mike0105]

I was tempted to mention this. It is terrifically expensive for something of its size and spec. Very close to essentially being a designer handbag. Having said that the full size Range Rover isn't exactly good value, and it is priced in line with that. And I think it's fair to say it's probably £10k better at being a 4x4 than the X1.

A full size Range Rover out 'poshes' many luxo barges (BMW, Mercedes, Audi etc) and beats most off roaders at the muddy stuff. It's also very practical and can be quick (in a straight line at least). It looks good too, where all 4x4 BMW's look silly, a Rangie has real road presence and looks like a very smart suit.

It's just a shame it's image is ruined by footballers and pompous idiots who think they own the road. And Katy Price. And the pointless Range Rover Sport.

 

[Prosthetic]

Hence why I said that there were exceptions.

Missed it >.<

 

[Murcie_LP640]

Yes, it's definitely overpriced.

You could pay upwards of £30,000 for what is essentially a re-badged iQ, or you could buy a decent second-hand DB7 which costs about £5,000 less. I certainly know which one I would go for, although if you wanted a small, modern city car rather than a used V12 Coupe, then why not just buy the car which the Cygnet is based on?

The main market the Cygnet is aimed at is the type of people who want to complement/accessorise the Aston Martin they already own. Mere mortals would of course go for the normal iQ because they would think the Cygnet is overpriced.

 

[GDII]

Aston Martin took the Toyota iQ and now sell it for 40,000 pounds

 

[Pupik]

I don't get spending $300K-$400K on a Rolls Royce or Bentley; there was a time when they were large, powerful, graceful cars without equal...but in the past 20-30 years, they have been supplanted by nearly every other luxury marque in every category except total extravagance. I guess the only point is to show off how rich you are, because the price gap only exists because you can't have a mere Mercedes-Benz or BMW in your many-car garage.