RIDOX Replica Garage Fan Club - Suspended

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danbojte
I did testing at GVS. The BMW is the King of the Valley, next was the NISMO 370Z and the last was the Hyundai...
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More strategy, start from the front or rear,, which car to use :lol: I will suggest to add a little more power on the NISMO and Hyundai ( 10HP probably enough ) or use one level higher grip tire ? The Hyundai is drifty on CS, SH will make it better, but so will the other pair, mmmm power and tire ...or power only so pit strategy can take more precedence with softer compound tire, more torque requires smoother driving on the low speed corners.
 
Wow! 4 cars to choose from? That will certainly make things interesting. Oh boy...my 370Z is back? That's my baby. I hope I can drive her as well at Grand Valley as I did at the Nordschleife! This is going to take a lot of testing. Damn... Good choice on the track. I don't drive there a heck of a lot, but I enjoy the layout. PD really needs to re-do this circuit for GT7. Imagine what GVS could look like with modern textures and a much higher polygon count!
 
danbojte
I don't know, they need to be tested... :)
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What sort of lap time did you get on the 1M ? I tested online, 2:17s mid/low for 370Z Touring Base with VLSD and Spoon S2000 with street alignment. Both tops close to 140mph on main straight and 1:30s last sector and 46s 1st sector ( roughly )

EDIT : The Hyundai Genesis also did 2:17s mid, with 46s 1st sector and 1:30s low last sector. It's more alive on lower speed, and requires more finesse. Tops at 140mph on main straight. More responsive acceleration.

All on lap 3 with plenty of fuel, could be in 2:16s easily with less fuel.
 
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What sort of lap time did you get on the 1M ? I tested online, 2:17s mid/low for 370Z Touring Base with VLSD and Spoon S2000 with street alignment. Both tops close to 140mph on main straight and 1:30s last sector and 46s 1st sector ( roughly )
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I did 2:15 low Offline Free Run with it and then I hunted its ghost with the others. :)
 
I noticed that the "Current Event" doesn't list the models of the cars, or the specifications (or links to tunes) of each eligible car. I'm assuming that's just because you guys are still testing them to figure out a Balance of Power (BOP)...?
 
Ridox2JZGTE
Edited my post above, testing the 1M now ( 135i version )
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I tested with the Tii '07 version. :crazy: :)
ALB123
I noticed that the "Current Event" doesn't list the models of the cars, or the specifications (or links to tunes) of each eligible car. I'm assuming that's just because you guys are still testing them to figure out a Balance of Power (BOP)...?
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Correct. :) 👍
 
Ridox2JZGTE
BMW E82 1M Coupe Replica
135i Coupe version

Tuned to replicate BMW E82 1M Coupe
Comfort Soft​




CAR : BMW 135i Coupe '07
Tire : Comfort Soft

Specs Heaviest Running Weight
Horsepower: 335 HP at 5800 RPM
Torque : 331.4 ft-lb at 2800 RPM
Power Limiter at : 97.9%
Weight: 1611 kg
Ballast : 61 kg
Ballast Position : -50
Weight Distribution : 52 / 48
Performance Points: 468

GT AUTO
Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( NOT INSTALLED IN THIS BUILD )
Wheels : +1 Inch Up BBS RE-MG in Silver Chrome
Car Paint : White


Tuning Parts Installed :
Intake Tuning
Fully Customizable Dog Clutch Transmission
Adjustable LSD
Fully Customizable Suspension
Window Weight Reduction



Suspension - Real car Spring Ratio Adapted.
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 132 132
Spring Rate: 3.98 13.47
Dampers (Compression): 7 3
Dampers (Extension): 5 2
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 3
Camber Angle: 0.5 1.8
Toe Angle: 0.13 0.15




LSD - 1.5 way M Differential Lock LSD
Initial Torque : 20
Acceleration Sensitivity: 30
Braking Sensitivity: 13


DOG CLUTCH TRANSMISSION -Corrected 1M Gearing and Final from 2011 model year
Install all power parts
Set Default
Set Auto Max Speed at 330kmh / 205mph
Adjust each gear :
1st 4.110
2nd 2.315
3rd 1.542
4th 1.179
5th 1.000
6th 0.846
Set Final : 2.910 - corrected final to account for the wheel size difference.



Brake Balance:
4/5 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 4/5, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance. I recommend to run 1 click higher at the rear.

Recommended setting for DS3 user :

Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 4/5 brake balance as starting point.

Notes :


Notes coming soon

My last play was racing at expert level FR seasonal at Willow Springs, driving my BMW 1 Series M coupe replica ( new build ) on CS with mere 466PP ( worn oil 330HP, 1600+kg, yellow worn chassis ) :eek: managed to win by doing BTCC style battle against the leader ( C7 Stingray ), got the lead in lap 5 1st turn, but the crazy ass mofo C7 AI is within my tailpipe until the last turn to finish, he pulled several bumping move, tried to pit me from inside, and the last turn, he tried to ram from the side on exit. I failed several times battling in the last turn and came in 2nd, but the last one, I became aggressive and hold the inside, blocking his line, he got crazy swerving left and right like hyper dog, and I had to keep blocking till finish line :lol:

The BMW 1 Series M coupe replica did consistent low 1:30s lap, and will need to finish the race in less than 8:10s time :P It's a real driver test race, where smooth is quick and passing is tricky to pull, especially on the 5th to 2nd car ( in packs ) and the leader C7 which can only be passed by doing late braking pass on last lap 1st turn, Gan-san / Motoharu Kurosawa style from Best Motoring ( get into the inside of his door side and held it to pass as you exit, forcing him to go wide and back off ) :D If the driver missed this chance to pass, it will be near impossible to pass the leader as the rest of the lap, even if the BMW can get close on corner entry, on the high speed corners and exit, the C7 will simply pull away with sheer power even if the BMW can draft within a car length.

Another run with 1M replica, this time with 135i version, at 335HP, 1611kg, 468PP, on CS tire, the 2nd car ( Alfa Romeo 8C this time ) was hot on my rear bumper to finish line, he tried to pit me several times on the last lap, talk about dirty Bob :P :lol: He couldn't get closer on the first half of the last lap. Managed several 1:29s lap at Big Willow :D
Last lap, last half, the dirty Bob attacks :
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And I went offroad and tried my best to get back on the tarmac to keep leading :
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Another attempt to get me off the race, right before entering the last turn to finish :
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This time, I managed to stay on the inside line and maintain the best possible speed to finish line with the crazy Bob hot on my tail.
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Ridox2JZGTE
Hyundai Genesis 3.8 Track & R-Spec 2013
MotorTrend Genesis R-Spec Streets Of Willow Randy Pobst Lap Record 1:28.71
Tuned to replicate Hyundai Genesis 3.8
Comfort Soft​




CAR : Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track '13
Tire : Comfort Soft

[...]

Specs Genesis 3.8 R-Spec Car & Driver 6MT
Horsepower: 348 HP at 6500 RPM
Torque : 294.8 ft-lb at 5200 RPM
Power Limiter at : 97.5%
Weight: 1579 kg
Ballast : 194 kg
Ballast Position : -6
Weight Distribution : 56 / 44
Performance Points: 466



GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( NOT INSTALLED IN THIS BUILD )
Wheels : Stock
Car Paint : Red, Blue, Yellow or Deep Burgundy Metallic or Silver.
Aero Kits Type A
Rear Wing Special Wing Type A



Tuning Parts Installed :
Catalytic Converter Sports
Fully Customizable Suspension
Weight Reduction Stage 1




Suspension - Stock Spring Rate Ratio Adapted
Hyundai OEM Alignment - Optimal Street/Track
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 130 130
Spring Rate: 3.47 7.49
Dampers (Compression): 4 4
Dampers (Extension): 2 3
Anti-Roll Bars: 5 4
Camber Angle: 1.5 1.4
Toe Angle: 0.30 0.14


AERO
Rear = 20 ( Max )




Brake Balance:
5/5 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 4/4, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance. I recommend to run 1 click higher at the rear. Recommend 3/4 for Racing Brakes Kit.

Recommended setting for DS3 user :

Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 5/6 brake balance as starting point.

Notes :


Notes coming soon

2 Replay provided, both with 3.8 Track Spec ( Hyundai official weight ), at Streets of Willow, 1:27s on CM tire, real life record MotorTrend at 1:28.71 by Randy Pobst driving the R-Spec ( not much weight difference to the Track model ). Another at Big Willow on CS, 1:29s.

A well matched car against the BMW 1M and 370Z replicas.
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Ridox2JZGTE
Nissan Fairlady 370Z Z34 Base Coupe 2009
with Optional Sports Package
Best Motoring and Car & Driver

Tuned to replicate Nissan 370Z Base
Comfort Soft​




CAR : Nissan Fairlady 370Z (Z34) '08
Tire : Comfort Soft

Specs Car & Driver 2009 Touring 370Z Test
Horsepower: 331 HP at 7200 RPM
Torque: 269.3 ft-lb at 5200 RPM
Power Limiter at : 100%
Weight: 1551 kg
Ballast : 190 kg
Ballast Position : -39
Weight Distribution : 56 / 44
Performance Points: 460


GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( NOT INSTALLED )
Rear Wing : Special Wing Type A
Aero Kits : Type A
Wheels : Standard Size Stock or PDI P525 or ENKEI RS05RR or ENKEI RPF1 or ENKEI RP03 in Black
Car Paint : Ultimate Metal Silver (4M)

Tuning Parts Installed :
Adjustable LSD
Fully Customizable Suspension
Weight Reduction Stage 1






Suspension - Nissan OEM Springs/Damper - BASE
Nissan OEM Alignment
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 123 123
Spring Rate: 7.55 8.06
Dampers (Compression): 4 6
Dampers (Extension): 2 4
Anti-Roll Bars: 3 4
Camber Angle: 1.4 2.1
Toe Angle: 0.11 0.21

[...]


LSD NISSAN VLSD ( Viscous LSD )
Optional fitment for Sports Package
Rear
Initial Torque : 24
Acceleration Sensitivity: 12
Braking Sensitivity: 5

Downforce:
Front 0, Rear 5




Studiat Balance:
5/5 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 4/4, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance.


Recommended setting for DS3 user :

Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 6/6 brake balance as starting point.


Notes :

The Nissan Z34 370Z base replica is a build to replicate the base model 370Z offered with no LSD.

For power, the stock GT6 is already accurate enough at 331HP, just 1HP short from 332HP/337PS official power claimed by Nissan.
Weight uses Car & Driver 2009 370Z Touring model test data, with 1551kg and 56.0/44.0 distribution.
Suspension uses OEM Nissan spring rate at
FRONT OEM Linear 74 N/mm / 7.55 kg/mm
REAR OEM Linear 79 N/mm / 8.06 kg/mm

These are claimed official OEM rate, while when tested on Roehrig tester, the actual rate are 7.50 kg/mm and 8.10 kg/mm. I included these as optional.

The rate can be replicated in GT6, with damper and ARB tuned to give the 370Z good balance that it always famous for. The Fairlady 370Z Nissan OEM alignment has also been used.
Gear ratio is correct this time, and LSD has been set as close to open for base ( the real car with no sports package comes with open diff )
2 addiditonal LSD setup has been included, one is VLSD for sports package, this gives very good balance of traction and handling. While the other is the aggressive NISMO GT LSD with low preload and good locking power. This will transform the handling, more raw and edgy but more potential.

The 2009 370Z in Best Motoring test managed 1:06.669 lap, this is possible with the replica on CS tire. I have tested at Tsukuba, and with base ( open diff ) it managed 1:07.089 lap while the 370Z fitted with Nismo GT LSD can lap in 1:06.5xxs lap.

Enjoy the 370Z :)
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danbojte
Event created. Please, join early (now :P ). Build the beauties and then, Practice, Practice, Practice. ;)

:cheers:
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I can't get on to GT6 tonight to get them sorted out but I'll get to them ASAP 👍 Got some work to catch up on for EAG, so I'll get myself registered later and then get to practising as soon as I can. I've not had the pleasure of getting to try the 1M or the Genesis yet, I'm really looking forward to trying these :) The Hyundai especially, that car has great potential in GT6 :D
 
Thorin Cain
I can't get on to GT6 tonight to get them sorted out but I'll get to them ASAP 👍 Got some work to catch up on for EAG, so I'll get myself registered later and then get to practising as soon as I can. I've not had the pleasure of getting to try the 1M or the Genesis yet, I'm really looking forward to trying these :) The Hyundai especially, that car has great potential in GT6 :D
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Sure, my friend, take your time. :cheers:
 
Grand Valley Speedway room is opened in the Fan Club Community Lobby. Come practice with this week's car(s)...


EDIT: I finished my practice session. I used the BMW, Hyundai and Nissan (no Honda specs yet). I didn't come close to your time @danbojte. I was fastest in the Hyundai. Not sure if it's truly the fastest of the three under my foot, or if it's because I was really warmed up by then, but the times went like 2:19, 2:18, 2:17... (best lap times of each) 2:15 is VERY fast & smooth driving. Well done... :bowdown: 👍
 
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danbojte
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Q U A D R I L O G Y

Schedule -=- Join​


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S2000




Free choice:
Colors, Brakes, Rims (same size)

All the four cars must be used. New race - Next car!

Racing numbers with Gran Turismo logo are mandatory!

Penalty: Strong, Wear: Very Fast, Damage: Light

No Aids & No ABS

4 x 30 min Races
60 min between Starts


Please read and follow the
GTPlanet OnLine Racing (OLR) Rules & Guidelines


Important!
The races will Start on time. The room will be opened 30 min before the race.


Provisional Starting Grid:

#3 @ALB123

#4 @DaBomm4

#7 @danbojte

#21 @joaosoarescso

#27 @RMan72

#44 @Brewguy44

#45 @Lionheart2113

#46 @Thorin Cain

#54 @Lewis_Hamilton_

#69 @TurnLeft

#81 @OdeFinn

Stay Tuned

:cheers:​
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Any type of tire ? ;)
 
For Honda S2000 Spoon Sports, this is the setup that I tested, on par with the 370Z Base, Genesis 3.8 Track ( 1616kg ) and 1M ( 135i ), the S2000 excelled in handling and braking, but slightly outgunned in sheer top speed ( main straight ), just 1-3mph :lol:


SPOON Sports/Type One Garage Honda S2000 AP2 Demo Street Car Replica 456PP
Tuned to replicate Spoon Sports/Type One Garage Honda S2000 AP2 Demo Street Car
Comfort Soft

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CAR : Honda S2000 '06
Tire : Comfort Soft

Specs
Horsepower: 275 HP at 8500 RPM
Torque : 188.7 ft-lb at 7100 RPM
Power Limiter at : 94.0%
Weight: 1088 kg
Ballast : 41 kg ( hardtop weight is simulated via ballast and position :D )
Ballast Position : 16
Weight Distribution : 49 / 51 - as in real life spec
Performance Points: 456


GT AUTO
Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( INSTALLED IN THIS BUILD ) - the real car has extensive reinforcement, including welded steel frame on the front suspension mounts and hardtop installed.
Aero Kits Type B
Rear Wing - Generic Wing Type B
Wheels : Standard Size - RAYS CE28N painted in Chrome GT Japanese 010-W
Car Paint : Pure White

Tuning Parts Installed :
Sports Computer
Semi Racing Exhaust
Catalytic Converter Sports
Twin Plate Clutch
Carbon Drive Shaft
Adjustable LSD
Racing Brakes Kit
Fully Customizable Suspension
Weigh Reduction Stage 3
Carbon Hood ( Body Color )
Window Weight Reduction


Suspension - SPOON Sports N1 Spec Coilover Damper Kit with Street Alignment
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 85 85
Spring Rate: 14.00 12.00
Dampers (Compression): 8 6
Dampers (Extension): 4 6
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 4
Camber Angle: 0.5 1.5
Toe Angle: 0.00 0.07


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LSD - SPOON Sports Circuit Spec 1.5 way (60/30), factory medium preload
Initial Torque : 21
Acceleration Sensitivity: 40
Braking Sensitivity: 20

AERO
REAR : 20 ( MAX )

Brake Balance:
4/4 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 3/3, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance.
Recommended setting for DS3 user :
Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 4/4 brake balance as starting point.
 
ALB123
Grand Valley Speedway room is opened in the Fan Club Community Lobby. Come practice with this week's car(s)...


EDIT: I finished my practice session. I used the BMW, Hyundai and Nissan (no Honda specs yet). I didn't come close to your time @danbojte. I was fastest in the Hyundai. Not sure if it's truly the fastest of the three under my foot, or if it's because I was really warmed up by then, but the times went like 2:19, 2:18, 2:17... (best lap times of each) 2:15 is VERY fast & smooth driving. Well done... :bowdown: 👍
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LOL, don't worry, I did 2:15 offline only
and with another car - BMW 1M based on Tii `07 so, you're good .:) 👍
 

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