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@Ridox2JZGTE:
I decided to do a second replica (and probably the last ), the Aston Martin Vantage GT3:
Also @danbojte:
Please also feel free to leave you opinion/help... đź‘Ť
TY and chat soon.
@Ridox2JZGTE:
I decided to do a second replica (and probably the last ), the Aston Martin Vantage GT3:
A little riddle for you Ridox:
How much power is needed with a 1720kg heavy car with stock lsd and gears being spread to top out at 335kmh to lap Tsukuba at 1.04—5s?
@Ridox2JZGTE
I'm happy with the Jag.
ia, Group GT3 Series, Silverstone GP, RH, NO Camber, ABS 0 (Wheel 2/2) - Winner!
Brake Balance 2/2 (Wheel)
ARB 2/3
Camber Angle 0/0
Toe Angle 0/0.07
LSD 20/14/16
Check it, please, when you're in the mood. đź‘Ť
@Ridox2JZGTE:
I decided to do a second replica (and probably the last ), the Aston Martin Vantage GT3:
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If its not too much trouble, I would like a little help:
The car has very good grip (using RH) in fast cornering tracks, just suffering from a very small oversteer, perfectly controllable. The problem is when in short turns tracks (like Tsukuba), the small oversteer becomes a problem, in aceleration, exiting the corner. With these settings , I believe testing in SS, the car wont be so reliable.
The settings im using are these atm:
Suspension
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 80 80
Spring Rate: 13.20 15.20
Dampers (Compression): 6 5
Dampers (Extension): 6 3
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 4
Camber Angle: 0.0 0.0 (max grip)
Toe Angle: -0.07 0.07
LSD
Initial Torque : 27
Acceleration Sensitivity: 30
Braking Sensitivity:36
Brake Balance: 5/5
TRANSMISSION - Xtrac 6-Speed Sequential
1st 3170
2nd 2071
3rd 1647
4th 1280
5th 1027
6th 0863
Set Final: 3764
What can I do to change that oversteer? Is it related to the Acc. Sensitivity? If possible, I would really appreciate your advice...
Many Thanks.
Chat soon.
PS: The weight is impossible to replicate. The real car has 1250Kg with 50/50. The game, with stage 3 reductions only goes to 1345Kg with 51/49.
What should I do? Increase the weight +11Kg for 50/50 or leave it stock (1345Kg 51/49)?
Great car! đź‘ŤAlfa Romeo MiTo 1.4 T Sport '09 FITT Hot Hatch version
Special Build of Alfa Romeo MiTO for FITT Tuning Shootout
Comfort Soft
CAR : Alfa Romeo MiTo 1.4 T Sport '09
Tire : Comfort Soft
Specs
Horsepower: 165 HP at 5100 RPM
Torque: 172.3 ft-lb at 5000 RPM
Power Limiter at : 90.0%
Weight: 1050 kg
Ballast : 77 kg
Ballast Position : -27
Weight Distribution : 63 / 37
Performance Points: 402
GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Improve Body Rigidity ( NOT INSTALLED in this build )
Wheels : +1 Inch Up RAYS TE37SL in Black
Car Paint : GT Old Generation 002 - W ( Seasonal Prize )
Tuning Parts Installed :
Engine Tuning Stage 1
Sports Exhaust
Intake Tuning
Suspension Fully Customizable Kit
Adjustable LSD
Six Speed Transmission
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Suspension - Autodelta Sportsline Corse Coilover Kit based from INTRAX HDA
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 85 85
Spring Rate: 13.25 6.13
Dampers (Compression): 6 7
Dampers (Extension): 6 7
Anti-Roll Bars: 3 3
Camber Angle: 0.2 0.6
Toe Angle: -0.07 0.00
LSD - 2 Way Autodelta Progressive LSD ( 30% max lock )
Initial Torque : 42
Acceleration Sensitivity: 20
Braking Sensitivity: 20
Brake Balance:
7/9 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 7/9, for ABS 1 7/9 or feel free to use your preferred brake balance.
Recommended setting for DS3 user :
Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 7/9 brake balance as starting point.
Notes :
This MiTo is build by adapting the parts used on Autodelta 147 GTA So, in a way it's an AutoDelta MitO.
Suspension uses coilover kit adapted from Autodelta 147 GTA Sportsline Corse Coilover Kit, it's stiff but very capable on twisty circuit. Damper and ARB is tuned for stability and nimble handing. No ride height difference in this build.
LSD also used Autodelta 147 GTA, with high preload and progressive low locking ratio for street tire.
I really like driving this car, with about 30 minutes tuning, I spent considerable more time just driving it at Autumn Ring, it's addicting
The car can easily do 1:34s lap, with my best at low/mid 1:33s and the car should be able to do 1:32s, 1st sector should be in 31s with a good run đź‘Ť
Built the car like above tune, body rigidity and flat floor installed, drove the car for some laps at Tsukuba, the car has good balance, good traction and braking ( 4/3 BB ) - running on RH tire. I dropped down to SS tires, and I sensed the car is too rigid in making direction changes ( tight ), so I lowered the LSD initial to 27. As for suspension, I lowered the rear damper and lowered both ARB.
The changes are bolded on the above quote Hope this helps Excellent tune by the way, should be a great GT3 car.
Great car! đź‘Ť
ib, Tour of Europe, CS, Camber, ABS 0 (7/9) - Winner!
Edit: No SEAT nor Mito in OP.
Built the car like above tune, body rigidity and flat floor installed, drove the car for some laps at Tsukuba, the car has good balance, good traction and braking ( 4/3 BB ) - running on RH tire. I dropped down to SS tires, and I sensed the car is too rigid in making direction changes ( tight ), so I lowered the LSD initial to 27. As for suspension, I lowered the rear damper and lowered both ARB.
The changes are bolded on the above quote Hope this helps Excellent tune by the way, should be a great GT3 car.
Awesome! Many thanks for taking time (and credits) to help me... đź‘Ť
Im away from the PS3 now, but as soon I get home I´ll update the car with your values and do more test laps...
Then I let you know the feedback!
Many thanks once again!
and chat soon.
@Ridox2JZGTE:
Just applied the changes you recommended and after 20 laps in Tsukuba, the car has changed. In SS, it feels more nimble in cornering. That stiffness before has gone, but has required because of the new type of tyres, some moderation in throttle is needed...
In RH, just changed the BB to 4/3 and left the same stats I posted...
Now its time to test it in fast cornering tracks, maybe Willow Springs... I´ll leave some feedback later...
Thank you very much for the new numbers, my friend! đź‘Ť
Chat soon.
PS: Just another little question: Regarding the weight, the real car has 1250Kg + FIA GT3 114 litre fuel cell (+114Kg). Should I use the 1250+114Kg with Weight Distribution : 50/50 or just add ballast from the lowest game weight (1345Kg) until reach 50/50). TY!
GT6 taken into account fuel weight when on track ( as far as I know ) - 100 litres of fuel for all cars.
So you can pretend the excess weight is driver weight
If you feel the car still too sensitive to throttle input, lower LSD accel and maybe lower rear anti roll bar by 1
I am also building the Aston Martin Vantage GT3, no flat floor version
I am also building the Aston Martin Vantage GT3, no flat floor version
! Thats one big driver...!!
Roger that! Going to apply the new numbers! Pit time over, back to racing...
Im pretty sure its going to be another awesome replica... đź‘Ť
TY! Chat soon.
PS: My apologies for all these questions. If I start to sound annoying, please let me know... Building replicas is awesome!!
No worries, always glad to help. Just to clarify, the car weight listed on tuning page and car description is without fuel If you drive the car online with tire wear and fuel depletion, when it's low/time to refuel, the car would be much lighter and quicker than when it has full tank.
So if you have 1350kg car, then when on track it would have 1350kg + 100 litres of fuel weight added. I am not sure about driver weight being simulated in GT, the avatar do exist inside the car, but does it have a weight that adds to the car ? Maybe we should make replicas with driver weight added , but I'll give that decision to the player.
I am not sure about driver weight being simulated in GT, the avatar do exist inside the car, but does it have a weight that adds to the car ? Maybe we should make replicas with driver weight added
That's not easy when I use a DS3 with the buttonsI wanted to pop in here and say that the R8 LMS ultra tunes are absolutely fantastic. The car is incredibly stable. The only thing I have to remember is to always keep a dab of throttle on in low 3rd gear and all of 2nd and 1st gears when going through corners. Big thumbs up there! đź‘Ť
I use a DS3, but I use both analog sticks instead.That's not easy when I use a DS3 with the buttons
I wanted to pop in here and say that the R8 LMS ultra tunes are absolutely fantastic. The car is incredibly stable. The only thing I have to remember is to always keep a dab of throttle on in low 3rd gear and all of 2nd and 1st gears when going through corners. Big thumbs up there! đź‘Ť
I can't even do that at DaytonaI use a DS3, but I use both analog sticks instead.
Thank you for sharing that tune! It made that nightmare of a car into an absolute dream to drive.Thank you NOSwaster
I just wished more people would try the tune, so many have trouble driving the R8 LMS Ultra.
I'm fine tuning the plain R8 LMS Ultra '12, I have found interesting stuff, hopefully I can cure the lift off oversteer without giving ill side effects and the car can be push hard with more confidence on low speed.
Thank you for sharing that tune! It made that nightmare of a car into an absolute dream to drive.
I thought something like that would be the same tune. Aren't they just the same car with a different livery?
Oh! I'm glad I didn't try to apply that setup to the normal Ultra, then!They are largely the same, there's one difference, aero values, the plain Ultra '12 has much lower aero front and back
I am using different approach to cure the low speed instability on this car, if this works, I will try it on the Phoenix
Oh! I'm glad I didn't try to apply that setup to the normal Ultra, then!
ia, GT3 Group Series, Silverstone GP, 500BHP, RH, Camber, ABS 0 (5/4) - Winner! đź‘ŤAUDI R8 LMS Ultra '12 489HP to 552HP BLANCPAIN version
Tuned to replicate Audi R8 LMS Ultra Blancpain
Sports Soft to Racing Hard
CAR : Audi R8 LMS Ultra '12
Tire : Sports Soft to Racing Hard
Specs
Blancpain Max Power 412kW
Horsepower: 552 HP at 8000 RPM
Torque: 417.6 ft-lb at 6500 RPM
Power Limiter at : 99.6%
Weight: 1250 kg
Ballast : 0 kg
Ballast Position : 0
Weight Distribution : 45 / 55 as stock
Performance Points: 596
Blancpain power based on 2.5 Kg/Hp or 500HP
Horsepower: 500 HP at 6400 RPM
Torque: 417.0 ft-lb at 6300 RPM
Power Limiter at : 90.4%
Weight: 1250 kg
Ballast : 0 kg
Ballast Position : 0
Weight Distribution : 45 / 55 as stock
Performance Points: 584
Blancpain power based on maximum restrictor 365kW
Horsepower: 489 HP at 6400 RPM
Torque: 416.4 ft-lb at 6100 RPM
Power Limiter at : 88.2%
Weight: 1250 kg
Ballast : 0 kg
Ballast Position : 0
Weight Distribution : 45 / 55 as stock
Performance Points: 580
GT AUTO
OIL CHANGE
Improve Body Rigidity ( INSTALLED in this build )
Wheels : Stock
Car Paint : Stock
Tuning Parts Installed :
Racing Exhaust
Suspension Fully Customizable Kit
Adjustable LSD
Racing Brakes Kit
AERO :
FRONT : 280
REAR : 650 ( Alternative setup is to use stock value or whatever values that suits the track or preferences )
LSD - 2 way high preload
Initial Torque : 52
Acceleration Sensitivity: 27
Braking Sensitivity: 27
Suspension - EIBACH ERS Coil Springs with Bilstein Damper
Front, Rear
Ride Height: 75 75
Spring Rate: 21.43 18.69
Dampers (Compression): 6 7
Dampers (Extension): 5 7
Anti-Roll Bars: 5 4
Camber Angle: 0.4 0.0
Toe Angle: -0.07 0.07 - increase rear toe in if want more stability in low speed, I recommend no more than 0.21 as it makes the rear harder to rotate.
Transmission - Sequential 6 Speed Adapted Homologated Ratio
Install all power parts
Set Default
Set Final to 5.000
Set Auto Max Speed at 240kmh / 155mph
Adjust each gear :
1st 2.997
2nd 2.235
3rd 1.765
4th 1.474
5th 1.238
6th 1.037
Set Final : 3.889
Brake Balance
5/4 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 5/4, for ABS 1 - feel free to use your preferred brake balance.
Recommended setting for DS3 user :
Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 5/4 brake balance as starting point.
Notes :
This is a replica of Audi R8 LMS Ultra Blancpain version, the power figures depend on the restrictor usage, so I have provided 3 different power levels.
The suspension has been further evolved from my older tune using the Phoenix team car, new rear damper and rear toe to work with the new LSD setup.
Overall the car is easier to drive, safer, and more consistent.
For LSD, I have used the same 2 way setup, but with different approach, using higher than usual initial torque to make sure the rear wheels are not causing sudden break away on low speed cornering ( especially during off throttle/coasting ), while gearing also adapted from 458 GT3 homologated ratios, and it worked so well with the R8 LMS.
I have tuned and tested the car at Tsukuba, Brands Hatch GP, Bathurst, Silverstone GP, Nurburgring 24H and Spa
With 528HP, it manages 1:24s at Brands Hatch GP, 2:04s at Bathurst and 2:00s at Silverstone GP, all on 1st lap
To replicate 2014 Audi R8 LMS, I would suggest to run at 500HP
Please leave feedback about the replica, I always consider this car as a work in progress
ia, GT3 Group Series, Silverstone GP, 500BHP, RH, Camber, ABS 0 (5/4) - Winner! đź‘Ť
good to drive but, still infected with the "Phoenix Virus".
It sounds awesome & smile inducing.@banditvw16, @danbojte, @Pete05, @cbarbosa, @Samus, @sumbrownkid, @OdeFinn, @TakumiFuji01 : I have posted the Gallardo GT3-R, still considered WIP, any feedback is welcomed