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Are you using the correct parts? I can replicate my own settings in patch 1.12.
RKM Motorsport - Tuned Tuners - May '13
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Are you using the correct parts? I can replicate my own settings in patch 1.12.
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Cappuccino Review
Well i didnt really have my hopes up for this little cup of coffee, but i was low on money and i was drinking some coffee at the time, so i thought this was a "sign" 130bhp+ not really that much but it weighs 619kgs so its a rocket around cote' D azur, but its best track by far is Tsukuba! the amount of grip is insane the only way to actually lose grip with this car is to use the handbrake! i swear! the car has no oversteer, no understeer, just pure grip, this reminds me of "Romeo" just a little smaller, and the thing i love about this car is that it is RWD! instantly this puts it in a different league to the copens, but anyway off to an online "Kei Car Challenge" Tsukuba was the first track, i had to make a good impression. There were Copens, Autozams, and even A Race Modified Cappuccino! i was in 6th place; standing start; launched at 6000rpm, instantly before the first corner i overtook the copen and autozam, after the first lap i was in second this was the last lap 2/2 i followed the RM cappuccino trailing behind by 0.893 seconds we got to the back straight where i slipstreamed past him, but no!! i went too fast for the last right hander, i hit the handbrake which sent me facing the RM cappuccino behind me, i floored it and put it in 2nd gear it gripped instantly and put me at the finish line in....1st but by 0.652 seconds
this car will dominate almost everything! (on a small track)
Well Done RKM
Well i didnt really have my hopes up for this little cup of coffee, but i was low on money and i was drinking some coffee at the time, so i thought this was a "sign" 130bhp+ not really that much but it weighs 619kgs so its a rocket around cote' D azur, but its best track by far is Tsukuba! the amount of grip is insane the only way to actually lose grip with this car is to use the handbrake! i swear! the car has no oversteer, no understeer, just pure grip, this reminds me of "Romeo" just a little smaller, and the thing i love about this car is that it is RWD! instantly this puts it in a different league to the copens, but anyway off to an online "Kei Car Challenge" Tsukuba was the first track, i had to make a good impression. There were Copens, Autozams, and even A Race Modified Cappuccino! i was in 6th place; standing start; launched at 6000rpm, instantly before the first corner i overtook the copen and autozam, after the first lap i was in second this was the last lap 2/2 i followed the RM cappuccino trailing behind by 0.893 seconds we got to the back straight where i slipstreamed past him, but no!! i went too fast for the last right hander, i hit the handbrake which sent me facing the RM cappuccino behind me, i floored it and put it in 2nd gear it gripped instantly and put me at the finish line in....1st but by 0.652 seconds
this car will dominate almost everything! (on a small track)
Well Done RKM
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- XDesperado67
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Hate to disagree but properly tuned several other Kei cars will beat a Cappuccino RM.Thanks for the review! Pretty much the only Kei car that'll beat a Cappuccino RM is another Cappuccino RM. It's in a class of it's own.
The Daihatsu's are the top dogs in the Kei cars with depending on the track either one of the Copens or a Cuore/Mira TR-XX Avanzato being the weapon of choice.
Especially in PP restricted races the Cappuccino RM is at a disadvantage due to losing so many PP to pointless amounts of aero downforce.
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Mhmm. I think it come from the Cappu's power disadvantage. The Copen has nearly 200bhp compared to the Cappu's 135-ish so I can see where it'll be beaten on straights. Around corners though, can the Daihatsu's beat the Cappu? It practically turns on a penny with all that grip.
With PP restrictions yeah, the downforce comes at a disadvantage, especially with such low power.
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I need to find one of these things and poke it for it's secrets.
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Cheers.
Oh thanks! I'll build it up with your settings (on sports softs so it's comparable to the Cappu) and see how it goes.
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Probably horribly with my spring rates etc. since it was tuned on Race Softs for maximum performance. It's killer on the RS tires and I've even managed a win at the Supercar Festival Eifel race but you'll want/need different suspension tuning on SS tires.Cheers.
Oh thanks! I'll build it up with your settings (on sports softs so it's comparable to the Cappu) and see how it goes.
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I decided to take each car to the Lighteight K Cup, doing the 3 lapper at Autumn Ring Mini. You were right, it needed a different suspension but the original settings aren't bad on sports soft tyres on their own. 👍
Cuore Pocket Monster: 43.204
Cuore Tweaked:42.826
Cappu RM: 42.761
Less than .06 between them and this track is supposed to favour the Cappu. I'd expect at Suzuka the Cuore would walk it.
So yeah, I'm sold!
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Something to think about. That was one of my earliest tunes and could undoubtedly benefit from another round of fine tuning using experience gained.I decided to take each car to the Lighteight K Cup, doing the 3 lapper at Autumn Ring Mini. You were right, it needed a different suspension but the original settings aren't bad on sports soft tyres on their own. 👍
Cuore Pocket Monster: 43.204
Cuore Tweaked:42.826
Cappu RM: 42.761
Less than .06 between them and this track is supposed to favour the Cappu. I'd expect at Suzuka the Cuore would walk it.
Also as always taking the time to tune a car to your personal preferences will always give better results than even making some tweaks to another persons tune. My tune might be a good base for someone but spending serious time with the car for making all the little adjustments to match your style is the only way to achieve peak performance.
The Copen (either one) is nearly as good on the corners tuned properly and has a slightly higher top speed which shows in the Ring Master's Challenge standings.
The Cervo is a very easy car to tune and handles at least as well as the cappuccino, so due to the PP issues with aero generally outperforms the cappuccino.
The Autozam looks good and falls between the Daihatsus and the Suzukis in performance.
Haven't tried all the Kei cars, although by this point I've probably got 2 or 3 of each, but will say most of them can be fun to drive and properly tuned grip better than anything except full on race cars.
:tup:👍
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Something to think about. That was one of my earliest tunes and could undoubtedly benefit from another round of fine tuning using experience gained.
Also as always taking the time to tune a car to your personal preferences will always give better results than even making some tweaks to another persons tune. My tune might be a good base for someone but spending serious time with the car for making all the little adjustments to match your style is the only way to achieve peak performance.
The Copen (either one) is nearly as good on the corners tuned properly and has a slightly higher top speed which shows in the Ring Master's Challenge standings.
The Cervo is a very easy car to tune and handles at least as well as the cappuccino, so due to the PP issues with aero generally outperforms the cappuccino.
The Autozam looks good and falls between the Daihatsus and the Suzukis in performance.
Haven't tried all the Kei cars, although by this point I've probably got 2 or 3 of each, but will say most of them can be fun to drive and properly tuned grip better than anything except full on race cars.
I didn't have to change much of your tune to be honest. Spring rates and LSD were the only things that needed an actual change and that's probably because of the tyres. I just gave it general settings like normal and vroom! 0.4 faster.
The Copen is also pretty powerful, I tuned one so I have an idea of it's potential. Definately not a joke car as people like to think.
I used the Cervo in a budget challenge (lost badly though
), really fun and cheery little car. 7 speed too so you can keep the revs where you want them. The Autozam is a drift car on sports tyres. Something very wrong with it.
I've got all the premium keis and a few standards that I've not driven. I'm too much of a premium snob I guess.
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Roj, I have a suggestion for you - how about coming up with LSD settings for the 12c? It handles fine as it is but the outside wheel breaks traction especially in hairpin- and low-speed corners. What do you think?👍
Also, a break-in question:
Suppose I have a new car & i don't equip it with power upgrades but only with suspension and aftermarket tires - I break it in until its 1st oil change. Will this car have more hp gain compared to say a car equipped with a transmission & LSD, broken in the same way as the previous car?
I'm just curious because I tried RJ's C5 Z06 with the 2nd method of breaking in (S-Spec, 429 bhp) and I accidentally ticked out the customizable LSD & switched the car back to its standard differential. I drove it for 3 races and I noticed the car gained another 3hp with the removal of the LSD. Glitch perhaps?
Maybe you can shed some light on this, Roj
Also, a break-in question:
Suppose I have a new car & i don't equip it with power upgrades but only with suspension and aftermarket tires - I break it in until its 1st oil change. Will this car have more hp gain compared to say a car equipped with a transmission & LSD, broken in the same way as the previous car?
I'm just curious because I tried RJ's C5 Z06 with the 2nd method of breaking in (S-Spec, 429 bhp) and I accidentally ticked out the customizable LSD & switched the car back to its standard differential. I drove it for 3 races and I noticed the car gained another 3hp with the removal of the LSD. Glitch perhaps?
Maybe you can shed some light on this, Roj
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I've been messing with a Honda Beat... that's a pretty quick little K-car (standard only, sadly), fully tuned it was breaking 150 mph on Sarthe without a draft. The handling is nice too, being a nice, light MR car.
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micra...micra 12c
I know, my mum has one too- oh wait.
I actually found one in the UCD that was everything that my mum's is.
Same colour, same HP, same horrid looks, same...everything. ...Also, as a quick note, I went and tried your Cappuccino
, Skyline R32 and Killer Whale tunes.1. Was sweet
2. Was a bit weird but fast
3. Was...quite fast.
