RKM Motorsport - Tuned Tuners - May '13

[CyKosis1973]

Left foot braking in RWD/AWD cars can stabilize an otherwise loose car under braking, and do the opposite to a FWD car.

So it's extremely useful.

Left finger braking is essential with my little Rally Pug. If you're not on the throttle and/or the brake, you're not in control of the car. You don't lift off to make it through a corner, you dab the brakes. This shifts the weight forward and brings the nose back in line, plus it keeps the revs up. Revs that you frankly can't allow to drop with this car.

That being said, there aren't many other cars I do this with...

{Cy}

 

[Onboy123]

Left foot braking in RWD/AWD cars can stabilize an otherwise loose car under braking, and do the opposite to a FWD car.

So it's extremely useful.

With the FFs, they seem to also kick the arse out. Half the time. The other half, I crash and burn off the road and look a complete cock. But RJ, having dealt with me for that brief session, you'd know that that happens pretty much every lap or 2.

And I'm just under 2 seconds from RJ's slowest time in the C5! I better get writing…yea. I've got quite a nice idea for this review. You're involved, RJ. A lot.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Left finger braking is essential with my little Rally Pug. If you're not on the throttle and/or the brake, you're not in control of the car. You don't lift off to make it through a corner, you dab the brakes. This shifts the weight forward and brings the nose back in line, plus it keeps the revs up. Revs that you frankly can't allow to drop with this car.

That being said, there aren't many other cars I do this with...

{Cy}

There are a lot of places with FR/AWD cars I add a bit of throttle under braking to keep the tail in check, but fairly few I use with FWD cars for the opposite effect (as GT5's ABS seemingly prevents it from working correctly but shortens braking distances by enough to make it worthwhile leaving on).

 

[XDesperado67]

Well as I said you can still have brakes mapped to a trigger/button so there is no reason you couldn't use the thumbstick for throttle control and use left finger braking.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Well as I said you can still have brakes mapped to a trigger/button so there is no reason you couldn't use the thumbstick for throttle control and use left finger braking.

Last time I was on a controller, I used L2/R2 for gas/brake exclusively.

But that was on a DS2. Where, you know, they were pressure sensitive buttons rather than triggers.

 

[Onboy123]

Last time I was on a controller, I used L2/R2 for gas/brake exclusively.

But that was on a DS2. Where, you know, they were pressure sensitive buttons rather than triggers.

was that when you drove the C5?

And I don't think I did too bad with the triggers, personally

 

[Rotary Junkie]

was that when you drove the C5?

Okay, the last time I drove a car with a controller was today using L2/R2 brake/gas and it was the C5.

I was referring to the last time I actually used the controller exclusively.

And I don't think I did too bad with the triggers, personally

1:32 isn't toooooo terrible, the C5 is a 1:30 car usually (it's 7 AM and my lines weren't quite right today) but not great either.

NSX Type R Zero is a 1:28 car at the same PP level however.

 

[Onboy123]

1:32 isn't toooooo terrible, the C5 is a 1:30 car usually (it's 7 AM and my lines weren't quite right today) but not great either.

NSX Type R Zero is a 1:28 car at the same PP level however.

Well it's not like I know the track well or something, is it? I've only done 10 or 20 laps of it today. And only 150 or so laps in the whole of GT5……

And you could have told me that when you did your lap, couldn't you? I was studying your driving as accurately as I could, trying to remember what your cornering speeds were, what gears you were using and how much throttle you used at any given time, just for you to say 'oh, I wasn't quite awake…' -.-

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Then you proceeded to take everything 5-10mph slow and 1-2 gears lower than you should've so the small errors I was making weren't hurting you any.

Most of the issues were me going in either too hot, braking too late and being too wide, or starting on the throttle too early, hurting exit speed.

 

[Onboy123]

Then you proceeded to take everything 5-10mph slow and 1-2 gears lower than you should've so the small errors I was making weren't hurting you any.

Most of the issues were me going in either too hot, braking too late and being too wide, or starting on the throttle too early, hurting exit speed.

Well, as said, I didn't drive this track since the birth of GT4, did I? It's still relatively new to me. And I was trying to do two things at once. Remember the gears (which I was crap at), and get the tyres stressed but not kill them (which I was slightly better at). That and the fact that my bruised finger meant I can't go as mental as I wanted to without screaming in pain cuz my finger's swollen.

 

[Zach]

Review of the LFA GT

I came into GTPlanet today to look for a tune for my new LFA. Stumbling onto this tune, I quickly installed it. Knowing how great RKM is, my expectations were high.

I bought some Comfort Softs as well as I was planning on using it for drifting. I know, the choice of tyres is nooby and the tune wasn't even made for drifting. But a good handling car is a good drifter.

Painting it Papaya Orange, I went off to an online lobby. The track was (obviously) Tsukuba. I was easily impressed by how easily it drifts. But there was still a problem. My M3 (obviously) which is my normal drifter doesn't feel so heavy in its handling, in fact it feels feather light. Well, the LFA GT feels rather heavy and that's the only small con that it has. So that's it. I'll recommend it for drifting!

I'll have my request tune later

 

[Onboy123]

make it longer You work for G.T.R now, you have to live up to G.T.R standards

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Well, as said, I didn't drive this track since the birth of GT4, did I? It's still relatively new to me. And I was trying to do two things at once. Remember the gears (which I was crap at)

You were worse than crap at that. I watched you downshift to a lower gear before it was even usable waay too many times, then upshift back to something more applicable, then back down, then back up...

It was a disaster.

and get the tyres stressed but not kill them (which I was slightly better at). That and the fact that my bruised finger meant I can't go as mental as I wanted to without screaming in pain cuz my finger's swollen.

EXCUSES.

 

[uMadson?]

make it longer You work for G.T.R now, you have to live up to G.T.R standards

The Onboy has spoken. We have high standards so you should make it long - TL;DR long.

You were worse than crap at that. I watched you downshift to a lower gear before it was even usable waay too many times, then upshift back to something more applicable, then back down, then back up....

He even ate Pinkie Pie's dust while driving in an NSX - and I suspect that it has your tune, not Roj's. Roj only got me at the final lap due to pressure Ah fun times.

 

[Onboy123]

You were worse than crap at that. I watched you downshift to a lower gear before it was even usable waay too many times, then upshift back to something more applicable, then back down, then back up...

It was a disaster.



EXCUSES.

I forgot…I thought it was going to be 2nd for a corner, but then I'd hear you shout something like '3rd!!!' for the corner so I got confused…

Edit: just remembered one more racing drivers' excuse (it's the only part of racing I'm any good at, the excuses ). Next time, speak up. I couldn't hear you over the awful noise the car makes.

 

[VTiRoj]

Hi RoJ,

I just saw today that u made some adjustments on this car's LSD and gearing. The gearing makes sense to me, but the LSD, from what I see on the numbers (I have not tested this yet) aren't u trying to induce more understeer into it?

I'm sorry to ask, I am just so curious because your previous setup works wonderfully for me. I love it for being the best handling thing in my garage.
Planning to test the new setup tonight, and hope it makes even better.

Yeah, basically what everyone else said. FF tuning in GT5 is a constant rollercoaster ride of discoveries. By putting the accel to 40, yes you'd expect more understeer, but suprisingly, it creates more oversteer. Or in this ITR's case, makes the nose sharper and makes it easier to drive and less understeery on turn-in.

Review of the LFA GT

I came into GTPlanet today to look for a tune for my new LFA. Stumbling onto this tune, I quickly installed it. Knowing how great RKM is, my expectations were high.

I bought some Comfort Softs as well as I was planning on using it for drifting. I know, the choice of tyres is nooby and the tune wasn't even made for drifting. But a good handling car is a good drifter.

Painting it Papaya Orange, I went off to an online lobby. The track was (obviously) Tsukuba. I was easily impressed by how easily it drifts. But there was still a problem. My M3 (obviously) which is my normal drifter doesn't feel so heavy in its handling, in fact it feels feather light. Well, the LFA GT feels rather heavy and that's the only small con that it has. So that's it. I'll recommend it for drifting!

I'll have my request tune later

Ooooh I don't know if I can give you a request for that one Zach, it's a bit short you know.

Thanks for taking the LFA drifting though, at least it's slidey nature is good for something. Personally I like the STi400 RJ did with SS tyres up front and CM's out back. Ken Block aint got nothing on this.

He even ate Pinkie Pie's dust while driving in an NSX - and I suspect that it has your tune, not Roj's. Roj only got me at the final lap due to pressure Ah fun times.

Hard to keep your concentration up when a turbocharged K20A is shouting in your ear eh? FFFFFFFFFFFRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTT PSHU!

Also all you guys with your L2/R2 nonsense. I use X and Square for throttle and brake like an OG. L2/R2 is my flappy paddle gearbox.

 

[uMadson?]

Hard to keep your concentration up when a turbocharged K20A is shouting in your ear eh? FFFFFFFFFFFRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTT PSHU!

Also all you guys with your L2/R2 nonsense. I use X and Square for throttle and brake like an OG. L2/R2 is my flappy paddle gearbox.

It's not the K20A, it's the distance. YOU'RE BLOODY CLOSE TO ME!

I was banging two DS3 triggers and finished them. Because that's how I roll.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

FULL AUDI = uMadson? off track.

 

[Onboy123]

Yeah, basically what everyone else said. FF tuning in GT5 is a constant rollercoaster ride of discoveries. By putting the accel to 40, yes you'd expect more understeer, but suprisingly, it creates more oversteer. Or in this ITR's case, makes the nose sharper and makes it easier to drive and less understeery on turn-in.

Ooooh I don't know if I can give you a request for that one Zach, it's a bit short you know.

Thanks for taking the LFA drifting though, at least it's slidey nature is good for something. Personally I like the STi400 RJ did with SS tyres up front and CM's out back. Ken Block aint got nothing on this.


Hard to keep your concentration up when a turbocharged K20A is shouting in your ear eh? FFFFFFFFFFFRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTT PSHU!

Also all you guys with your L2/R2 nonsense. I use X and Square for throttle and brake like an OG. L2/R2 is my flappy paddle gearbox.

you do owe it to RJ for the original idea and me (sort of, maybe…ok, not really) for letting you know.

See! Even Roj agrees!


I hate that noise. So ricey. I use R2 since Prologue, so much better than the X and square. I leave that for GTPSP. And what's a OG?

 

[uMadson?]

you do owe it to RJ for the original idea and me (sort of, maybe…ok, not really) for letting you know.

See! Even Roj agrees!


I hate that noise. So ricey. I use R2 since Prologue, so much better than the X and square. I leave that for GTPSP. And what's a OG?

OG = Original Gangsta.

 

[Onboy123]

FULL AUDI = uMadson? off track.

Dammit! I should have got you to show me my Audi today I haven't seen its blocky silhouette since it left in April.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

I haven't actually seen the car yet myself. And I've forgotten what you wanted done to it.

 

[uMadson?]

FULL AUDI = uMadson? off track.

What is this, I even.

 

[Onboy123]

I haven't actually seen the car yet myself. And I've forgotten what you wanted done to it.

*facepalm*

Go fish it out of your mailbox or garage. I wanted it to be fast for me to drive, but easy enough for my dad to have a go in it. After all, that particular Quattro was his car. He had one, loved it so much he demanded I recreate it for him.

 

[VTiRoj]

It's not the K20A, it's the distance. YOU'RE BLOODY CLOSE TO ME!

I was banging two DS3 triggers and finished them. Because that's how I roll.

The sound of the engine makes me feel even closer.

FULL AUDI = uMadson? off track.

I love giving people the full Audi.

you do owe it to RJ for the original idea and me (sort of, maybe…ok, not really) for letting you know.

See! Even Roj agrees!

I hate that noise. So ricey. I use R2 since Prologue, so much better than the X and square. I leave that for GTPSP. And what's a OG?

I got the idea from RJ's Volvo to put on my own Lolvo. It was only after trying your DC2 where I realised more powerful Honda's benefitted from it too when the settings were adjusted for it. Case in point, the FD2's got faster but the CR-Z barely changed.

OG is Original Gangsta.

 

[uMadson?]

The sound of the engine makes me feel even closer.

I love giving people the full Audi.

OG is Original Gangsta.

The sound of mine tells me to keep going.

What's all these Full Audi nonsense?! I love Audis and what's wrong with that?

Tree'd you, ya busta.

 

[Onboy123]

The sound of the engine makes me feel even closer.

I love giving people the full Audi.


I got the idea from RJ's Volvo to put on my own Lolvo. It was only after trying your DC2 where I realised more powerful Honda's benefitted from it too when the settings were adjusted for it. Case in point, the FD2's got faster but the CR-Z barely changed.

OG is Original Gangsta.

Remind me never to get into proper race with you. I hate people who tries to kiss my cars arse. *coughcoughRJcoughcough*

Not only do hyper hondas benefit, the little cars too. Remember my Civic? And I've got a Mirage (the older, boxier one) which kicks R35 arse on a daily basis which runs the same diff settings the DC2.

Edit:

The sound of mine tells me to keep going.

What's all these Full Audi nonsense?! I love Audis and what's wrong with that?

The sound of mine tells me that I'm in a ricer and I look ridiculous.

You obviously never watched that episode.

 

[uMadson?]

Remind me never to get into proper race with you. I hate people who tries to kiss my cars arse.

You also hate people who shuts their ass and leaves you with no overtaking opportunity at all?

 

[VTiRoj]

The sound of mine tells me to keep going.

What's all these Full Audi nonsense?! I love Audis and what's wrong with that?

Tree'd you, ya busta.

Quit trippin' dawg.




Skip to 8:20 and you'll know.

 

[Onboy123]

Quit trippin' dawg.




Skip to 8:20 and you'll know.

Tree'd ya Whatever it means