RKM Motorsport - Tuned Tuners - May '13

[Onboy123]

And I thought my 360 hp 498 pp S15 was ridiculous. If you want to turn the asm off, you're crazy.

Ehh…not sure by what you mean, but pretty much every tune around here is only with ABS:1 as a driving aid…so yea, we're all crazy around here.

 

[VTiRoj]

ASM slows you down so yeah. I'd rather be crazy than slow.

 

[Onboy123]

ASM slows you down so yeah. I'd rather be crazy than slow.

So…in that case:

Praiano, CSLACR- ASYLUM!!!!
You, RJ, MFT- Pending to be locked up
Me- needs help from doctors (i.e getting "crazier" and faster, but still not at your level yet)
Clueless dudes and XDesperado- starting to lose it, not quite an issue yet though.


Like that???

 

[VTiRoj]

So…in that case:

Praiano, CSLACR- ASYLUM!!!!
You, RJ, MFT- Pending to be locked up
Me- needs help from doctors (i.e getting "crazier" and faster, but still not at your level yet)
Clueless dudes and XDesperado- starting to lose it, not quite an issue yet though.


Like that???

Well XDesperado basically claims to be crazy so I think you can put him higher up the list.

"Then again what do I know I'm crazy " - XDesperado

 

[Onboy123]

Well XDesperado basically claims to be crazy so I think you can put him higher up the list.

"Then again what do I know I'm crazy " - XDesperado

Well, yea, but that's more to do with what he tunes rather than what he can manage with it. He's getting faster though, but as is everyone now we're all on a fairly level field…we really should race again some time soon, now I'm that bit more precise with the DS3.

As long as there's no fallout, we're fine, I reckon.

 

[Dragonthing]

And I'm just slow, right? even without being broken...

 

[Michelin]

And I'm just slow, right? even without being broken...

Nope. I tested your 350RS (might give you a review), and it made a 1:43.xxx at Cote D'Azur. I could've done better, but I was just giving it a quick run. And in the description you talk that the car slides a lot.. at least with me I made it very planted to the ground!

 

[Onboy123]

Nope. I tested your 350RS (might give you a review), and it made a 1:43.xxx at Cote D'Azur. I could've done better, but I was just giving it a quick run. And in the description you talk that the car slides a lot.. at least with me I made it very planted to the ground!

You miss the point, mate. We aren't talking tunes, we're talking about the person who builds it. XDesperado and Krenkme aren't the fastest drivers around here by any means, hell, Krenkme's daughter beat him, yet their cars aren't slow themselves, just in their hands.

 

[Michelin]

You miss the point, mate. We aren't talking tunes, we're talking about the person who builds it. XDesperado and Krenkme aren't the fastest drivers around here by any means, hell, Krenkme's daughter beat him, yet their cars aren't slow themselves, just in their hands.

Shame that I don't build cars, because I think I can beat yall

 

[uMadson?]

I have never used ASM for a long time.

That means I'm like you guys.

 

[Onboy123]

Shame that I don't build cars, because I think I can beat yall

You're not that fast, mate.

Then again, I ain't particularly speedy either.

 

[Michelin]

I have never used ASM for a long time.

That means I'm like you guys.

I have never used ASM since I discovered RKM back in October, 2011 if I'm not mistaken..

 

[che69velle]

And I'm just slow, right? even without being broken...

no your a girl, you are automaticly crazy.

 

[20832]

Review: Takata 86 Rally Car

- Prolouge -

What happens, when the Subaru and Toyota team up to create a "driver's car", a car that the small man can buy for a reletively small price and offers the most amount of fun. Well, they come up with the FT86, or the GT86 as it's now called. This car has probably caught the biggest attention amongst car enthusiast and journalists all over the world.
And now, in 2012, almost 3 Years after the first Concept was revealed, it seems almost surreal that this car really is finished and went eventually into production. The expectations were very high indeed, because the Hot Hatch's like Golf GTI or Renault Clio RS have set the benchmark very, very high indeed. But the GT86, could live up to the expectations and surprised with absolutly nimble cornering and drift capability.

Since Subaru (relativly successful) and Toyota were participating in Rallying, it definetly comes to mind, if the GT86 could also be as good on Gravel as on tarmac.
I therefore tried out the Takata 86 Rally Car. The car got completly rebuilt by RKM's own VTiRoj.


- First Impression -

After the first few corners at Eiger Nordwand K - Track, I definetly feel the difference between my Rallytune and Roj's Rallytune. I tried to keep the charactaristics of the street car, to give this car a very neutral feel, that the car is very stable at high Speeds, but also aggresive when you want it to. Roj definetly went for the opposite. The car has a very FR Rallycar Feel, very Old School indeed. It slides at every possible corner, but that doesn't mean that you have to saw at your steering wheel like crazy to keep this thing in a straight line. Another thing I definetly noted positively is, that the car copes the bumps and jumps very, very well. The car doesn't like High Speed (downhill) corners too much, but Hairpins even more. Overall a good feel.


- Deeper Look -

I am definetly quite surprised on how good the car behaves on Gravel. FR Cars definetly are lenient to modern 4x4 Cars. You feel that not only with WRC Spec Cars, but also in Subaru's Street Cars. But this car and especially the tune, because that is what makes this car so quick around Eiger, atomise a kind of confidence. A confidence, that makes you go faster than you actually would dare to. You can drive this car almost eased over the course without having too much problems with Oversteer or Understeer as this is probably the more lethal thing at rallying.

In comparison to my 18HP weaker 86 RS, which is also equipped with a Short 6 - Speed instead of the Fully Custom. Tranny, this car isn't really faster in the turns. It's definetly much more fun than my counterpart tune. The car, probably because of the Diff Settings, gives you the possibility to wag the tail out like crazy to circle the car around every hairpin corner. Combinations are definetly another strength of the car. But, and that is actually quite a pity, the car doesn't like high speed corners. Especially at the downhill part you have to brake earlier to not hit the barrier, this will not only costs you the speed at the fastest point (RKM Takata: 187kp/h/GT86 RS: 194 kp/h) but also precious seconds at the end of the lap. I would definetly recommend to raise either the camber value or the stiffen the Anti - Rolls.

I was quite surprised on how good the car offests the jumps, bumps and compressions. The car stays very stable the whole time to give you the guts to brake later and to stay longer on the Throttle.

At the end, I clocked a 3'55:438 as my quickest lap. In comparison to my RS - Tune this equals a 1.6 Seconds faster lap time.

- Résumé -

I would lie to claim that I expected either good or bad from this tune. With 240HP this car doesn't seem too powerful, but let's not forget that this car only weighs about 1.1 Tons, and it's RWD. That's usually a receipe, that let's you tumble into utter misery, but it doesn't! The Boys at RKM, especially Roj, did a great job in creating a fun and quick Rally Car with FR Layout. The car drives surprisingly controlable through turns and simply is a joy to drive through Hair Pins and Mid-Speed Corners. The car has a relativly high speed on this loose surface, even though this will cause the car to understeer heavily at corners. The impartial behaviour in Jumps and especially after jumps is tremendous and rounds up a overall very, very good (beginners) rally car. Well Done, Roj!


Rating: 9/10​

 

[VTiRoj]

Thanks for the review that could probably double up as a magazine article!

I tried to keep the car fun to drive. A lot of people just want to go sideways throughout the entire rally stage (or they have a tough time keeping it straight), so why not make the car capable of doing that without it fighting back? There's also the difficulty in FR rallying itself, so the tune helps out there too. That downhill section at Eiger always catches me out. I tend to just baby my way through there so I don't invalidate my lap time. I don't pay much attention to trying to get the most out of the car there, which is probably why it didn't do so well.

But yeah, since it is a beginners tune of sorts, I'm just happy it handles well in everyone's hands. The good lap times are just a bonus.

I'll take your suggested tweaks into mind the next time I'm tinkering with it. 👍

 

[Dragonthing]

There's also the difficulty in FR rallying itself

Which is why my best Eiger K lap time was set in a 550bhp Viper GTSS rally car that I flat out refuse to post up because it even kicked the ass of a 650bhp R33 time attack rally car I have on my top secret list

 

[XDesperado67]

Which is why my best Eiger K lap time was set in a 550bhp Viper GTSS rally car that I flat out refuse to post up because it even kicked the ass of a 650bhp R33 time attack rally car I have on my top secret list

Now that's a Dragon for you...always hoarding the shiny stuff!

 

[Dragonthing]

Now that's a Dragon for you...always hoarding the shiny stuff!

If you had ever seen the speeds these cars can complete rally tracks you would want to keep them to yourself although I might consider finding my original Viper GTSS setup if anyone wants a road setup?

 

[che69velle]

If you had ever seen the speeds these cars can complete rally tracks you would want to keep them to yourself although I might consider finding my original Viper GTSS setup if anyone wants a road setup?

how about an orange 70 charger rt 440 rally tune? (dixie plays over horn)

 

[Dragonthing]

how about an orange 70 charger rt 440 rally tune? (dixie plays over horn)

I had one for the '70 Mach 1, but I think that car turned into my iris blue SEMA style show car...and the '70 Challenger has no rear grip whatsoever so I gave up on that.

 

[che69velle]

I had one for the '70 Mach 1, but I think that car turned into my iris blue SEMA style show car...and the '70 Challenger has no rear grip whatsoever so I gave up on that.

well at maxed out 800+hp on skinny tires there is no grip

 

[Korza]

Which is why my best Eiger K lap time was set in a 550bhp Viper GTSS rally car that I flat out refuse to post up because it even kicked the ass of a 650bhp R33 time attack rally car I have on my top secret list

I reckon I have the tune for it....

 

[Dragonthing]

I reckon I have the tune for it....

I reckon you don't

And I spent an hour making a drag tune for a 300bhp supercharged Mazda Roadster 1800RS...what the hell is wrong with me?

 

[Simple Matt]

I reckon you don't

And I spent an hour making a drag tune for a 300bhp supercharged Mazda Roadster 1800RS...what the hell is wrong with me?

D: you think something is wrong with you for making a drag tune haha good to see you working your magic with the restricted cars, but you won't find many cars online to run that are restricted to 300hp..

 

[Korza]

I reckon you don't

And I spent an hour making a drag tune for a 300bhp supercharged Mazda Roadster 1800RS...what the hell is wrong with me?

Don't you remember telling me how you made your rally tunes?

Also, got any idea when I can expect my GS300?

 

[Dragonthing]

D: you think something is wrong with you for making a drag tune haha good to see you working your magic with the restricted cars, but you won't find many cars online to run that are restricted to 300hp..

I was dragging against a couple of guys in Spoon Civic Rs earlier today, had some very close runs because I had a better launch but less top end...and no 12,500rpm redline

Don't you remember telling me how you made your rally tunes?

Also, got any idea when I can expect my GS300?

I do, and this tune is not the result of making a base setup, it's the result of two hours chasing down my Impreza's obscenely quick time in a RWD American coupe with an 8 litre engine in the front

And you can expect it back as soon as I reduce it's murderousness slightly on the 'Ring, once I'm home from photographing shiny stuff ^_^

 

[obsessive rules]

Ohhh shiny!

 

[VTiRoj]

I have never used ASM for a long time.

That means I'm like you guys.

Last time I used ASM by choice was 7 years ago on GT4, before I got into competitive time trials.

 

[obsessive rules]

Last time I used ASM by choice was 7 years ago on GT4, before I got into competitive time trials.

What is this asm? Never heard of it. Is it a cash machine

 

[VTiRoj]

What is this asm? Never heard of it. Is it a cash machine

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