Just wanted to post some first impressions of your
'08 Honda CTR of the turbocharged variety. Reading UK car magazines, the stock JDM CTR of this generation seems pretty much to be the best thing happening to the FF world more or less ever. I even considered getting the car at some point myself (not sure it is a good thing I did not - registering a JDM car in Germany after my move here from the UK might have been a nightmare).
Just for clarity, I use a DS3 controller and would not call myself a wizard behind the wheel, having started playing driving games with the GT5P. So I will most certainly accept comments of my hamfistedness as a driver, if I come to different results than most of the others
So how did the turbocharged Civic work for me? I started off by installing all the parts but leaving the settings completely stock. Which was a mistake - I should at least have modified the gearing, which I painfully found out on the first lap at GVS, when it started bumping into the limiter at ca. 230kmh. In any case the base settings, even with almost double the power were free of vices and the car would not bite. Hopping over kerbs in turn 2, or in the section between the first sector time measurement and the first tunnel left it unperturbed as did all varieties of corner mistreatments
I did these in the lvl 15 Tuner Challenge race and when understeering out of the first corner on lap 3 and already far behind a chance of a good result I decided to call it a day.
I applied your settings next and went for another try. I did not feel the car was completely transformed, just a bit sharpened. I was hoping (against better judgement, really) that there was a chance for the ~400bhp FF car to work without understeering but it unfortunately did not. I guess this is not an auspicious start to winning myself the reviewer of the week title
Hugging the inside line at turn one allowed me to recapture some places lost due to the faster accelerating opponents at the rolling start and I emerged fifth. The car works quite well in the fast section between turn 1 and 3 - in fact my first sector times were only a smidge slower than the best ones with your NSX Type-R tune I tried later in the day (talking about 0.2 seconds).
It was sections 2 and 3 of GVS where I was really losing time to the others (still lvl 15 Tuner Challenge). I somehow did not manage to find an optimal way through turn 4 (much earlier braking than indicated, combined with a split second of coasting, turning in and then nailing the throttle seemed to work best for me, although that by no means indicates that this is the optimal approach).
The entry into the first tunnel was good - one of the few places where the car somehow did not show any understeer, no matter how hard I charged in. The exit from the second tunnel, onto the bridge was a place where I traditionally managed to gain quite a bit on the opponents in an FF car, however it somehow did not translate to the Civic - slowly getting on the power after the tap on the brakes mid-tunnel simply had it gradually push to the outside of the turn and depending on the severity I either had to lift or brake to ensure I did not kiss the wall upon exiting the tunnel.
Same on the exit from the third tunnel - I almost inevitably landed much further on the inside of the corner after than I wanted. The last corner then necessitated a slight lift before entry and an early turn in but the speeds both at entry and exit were solid. I tried the race twice but good results somehow did not seem forthcoming - I was running as high as fourth in the first lap but then slowly but consistently slipped down the ranks
I tried the car on two more circuits with the Tuner Challenge - Suzuka and Tokyo R246. While the 1st, 2nd and S curves on Suzuka worked well in my opinion, I had some trouble with the Gyaku, Dunlop and the second part of Degner. In each case it was understeer that I battled. The rest was OK, although I always emerged pretty badly mauled on both the Back Stretch and the Main Straight - Various unAmuse-ing S2000GT-1s do that to you I guess
I abandoned this one after plowing off into the sand at Degner at lap 3 as well
Finally the Tokyo race - the speeds are up, which somehow does not suit my driving the CTR. Miss the braking zone for turn 1 and the wall beckons - I did not find a way to unsettle the car and get it somehow sideways to avoid this. Same for turn 2, although there is luckily more space for finding alternatives in this case. The car also seemed to really groan (as if it flexed) during the direction change in the fast chicane next to the Akasaka Palace (although time wise this was one of the better sections). I felt what worked best with the car on this circuit (and to a lesser extent the other ones) was pretty much a 'no, it's still too early to get back on power' approach. Disregard it and understeer on corner exit bringing you closer to walls, barriers or gravel than you initially desired is generally the result.
Still, this was a circuit where I came closest to matching the other Tuner Challenge machinery.
I then decided to change my approach and took the same car to the lvl 18 Japanese Championship. There it was definitely too powerful for the group but that at least meant something was not constantly hounding you, which allowed for a more relaxed drive - and it turns out the car was no slower this way. If you take things a bit more leasurly the car simply works better - seemingly not one for the hooligan driver (or maybe just not for this particular one
). I eventually managed a low 2.05 time on GVS, which for me is a decent time with a FF car - roughly comparable to what I achieve in the MFT Focus and C30Rs (both at ~360hp, 1186kg). Admittedly I was hoping for more from a CTR with a better P/W ratio but such is life
In the end it was still some 2 seconds faster per lap than with the components only, sans setup (the lower top speed will account for some but not all of that).
I also did a race on Monza and without the pressure to push in every corner it worked well overall, with my only problem being the Parabolica - again, as long as I did more braking than felt necessary and only gingerly got back on the throttle, it worked, otherwise a trip to the gravel trap ensued. The Ascari chicanes also got me into the odd 4 wheel drift but were manageable as long as you allowed for a split second breather between the braking and the turn in.
Final verdict? It is a FF car and needs to be treated as such. I felt it difficult to push in it, yet it worked very well when I relaxed a bit (i.e. when the competition was not too strong).
It is rock solid under braking, even from high speeds and pretty much no matter what you do, oversteer is not part of the repertoire (whether lift off or any other kind).
In spite of being lowered completely it still rides bumps and kerbs well and your driving line seem not to suffer too much from that.
If you do produce understeer, lifting off or a tap on the brakes both tuck the nose in somewhat, which is a definite plus - if you badly overdid it, well hope you have enough space and no walls directly adjacent.
Compared to a FR it lost ground on corner exits in my hands, simply due to not allowing you to get on the throttle equally early. And it works best if you separate your braking and steering - do them separately and clean lines are definitely possible, try both at once and it will often result in understeer or a 4 wheel drift, neither of which makes for good lap times.
Another bonus point is that the wheelspin, while rampant, somehow still produces less shaking in the controller than other fast FFs - your fillings are quite safe with this one (I seem to remember the DS3 vibrating for pretty much the whole lap at GVS for the fast Focus and C30R)
In essense it is a safe car for a novice driver in the sense that it never serves up nasty surprises, yet it also demands keeping to your braking points and separating steering from braking - not necessarily skills novices tend to have in abundance.
It is probably a good representation of a turbocharged FF car that overburdens the front wheels due to the power on tap, yet manages to remain controllable and produce very respectable lap times at the same time. As mentioned, it mirrored some sector times of your NSX Type R, which for a FF car, even if at the same P/W ratio, is simply amazing (in that regard it really is a great sleeper).
Had I not harboured such (unrealistically) high expectations for the CTR I would probably have liked it all the more 👍 As it is, it looks like I will continue spending more time in GT5 with machines propelled from the other end (or both ends) but that is not meant as a criticism of your tune, just personal preference