roommate's single turbo Supra progress...

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2 quick ones of the Greddy 4-row, more to come tomorrow:

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Ahhh Supra's. Dyno Queens, Highway Kings....but I sure as hell wouldn't want to run into that thing, unless that is I was on C16 and 28lbs of boost :P, 4G63 ftw!!! haha. No seriously nice car. I wanted to get my ASE Cert. but started thinking how I'm going to make a living in 40 years when cars are all electric.
 
Ahhh Supra's. Dyno Queens, Highway Kings....but I sure as hell wouldn't want to run into that thing, unless that is I was on C16 and 28lbs of boost :P, 4G63 ftw!!! haha. No seriously nice car. I wanted to get my ASE Cert. but started thinking how I'm going to make a living in 40 years when cars are all electric.
Galant VR-4 FTW!!!
 
here's a quick picture, I'll make another post with a bunch more tomorrow hopefully. He cut and welded the piping for the FMIC today (right side), so it'll be polished/chromed to match the left tomorrow. The car runs well and sounds GREAT, once it's tuned I will definately have a video clip up of it. Sorry for throwing just a little teaser up, more to come soon!

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here's a quick picture, I'll make another post with a bunch more tomorrow hopefully. He cut and welded the piping for the FMIC today (right side), so it'll be polished/chromed to match the left tomorrow. The car runs well and sounds GREAT, once it's tuned I will definately have a video clip up of it. Sorry for throwing just a little teaser up, more to come soon!

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Two Words..

BAD... ASS...

(Which is kinda ass backwards as I'm looking at the front... Hmmm... Weird...)
 
just a couple more pictures, there will be a few updates this week since there is going to be stuff arriving almost every day :)

HID's are on there now along with the new headlights. BIG improvement:

old vs. new

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HKS Drag Coilovers came intoday.

coilovers are on the car I just didn't have time to snap a few yet, I'll put those up when I get a chance. They were only used for I think 5 track passes so they're pretty much brand new, really great shape.

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Did your friend buy this car with the specific intention of going drag racing and is that why he doesn't mind having an auto box?

BTW It sounds mad.
 
Did your friend buy this car with the specific intention of going drag racing and is that why he doesn't mind having an auto box?

BTW It sounds mad.

Yep, he wanted a drag car and the Supra was (obviously) a great platform for what he was looking to do. Always good to have a specific thing in mind to do with a car right off the bat, otherwise you'll end up spending so much money on things you'll be replacing soon anyway since you're always changing your mind.

The auto is great for drag, costs a lot less to upgrade (one of the best clutches is like $6k or something I think), and not to mention 6-speeds generally cost a few grand more as it is opposed to an auto.
 
Yep, he wanted a drag car and the Supra was (obviously) a great platform for what he was looking to do. Always good to have a specific thing in mind to do with a car right off the bat, otherwise you'll end up spending so much money on things you'll be replacing soon anyway since you're always changing your mind.

The auto is great for drag, costs a lot less to upgrade (one of the best clutches is like $6k or something I think), and not to mention 6-speeds generally cost a few grand more as it is opposed to an auto.

Yea, the Supras are great for drag racing, there's one in Auckland which is supposed to be NZs fastest street Import, and it's been auto throughout its racing life. Runs in the mid 9s last I heard, seriously mean car.

Is your roommate going to compete professionally or is this just for fun? What sort of times is he aiming for? And is he going to keep it street legal + street tyres and pump gas?
 
Yea, the Supras are great for drag racing, there's one in Auckland which is supposed to be NZs fastest street Import, and it's been auto throughout its racing life. Runs in the mid 9s last I heard, seriously mean car.

Is your roommate going to compete professionally or is this just for fun? What sort of times is he aiming for? And is he going to keep it street legal + street tyres and pump gas?

no plans for pro competition as far as I know, just for fun. With this setup, once he gets everything on it he wants low 10's, trapping in the 130's without the 150 shot of nitrous he's putting on. He'll be running drag radials in the back on his new wheels, also running methanol.
 
I'm curious why your roomate bought new headlamps. Because with some elbow grease you could easily get them looking brand new.

Here's a good tutorial: http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/1769562

the Civic just had it fogging on the outside. The Supra's lights would need to be taken apart and cleaned on both the inside and outside, not to mention all the rust around the bulb housings, then you'd need to reseal everything. With how cheap he got the new ones for, I sure as hell wouldn't go through all the time and effort trying to clean up the old ones and still have them coming out looking worse than the new ones.
 
here are two quick, really bad pictures of the new wheels. Forgot to take some today in the daylight where they really sparkle.

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CCW Classics (Track Version)
tires are:
285/30/18 BFG KDW's up front
315/30/18 BFG Drag Radials in the back

Around the outside, every other hole is an ARP bolt. The other holes are machined out to take extra weight off of each wheel. He actually ordered them without that option and then after they shipped them he regretted not ordering them like that. Turns out CCW did it for him anyway so he was pretty happy about that. I think they look perfect on there, I love the CCW Classics.

we shot a quick video today to see how the Supra will perform before and after the fuel setup goes on. Today was, obviously, the "before" video. How are we making the comparison? Why we took my other roommate's dad's car out, of course.

It's an '05 Viper SRT-10, only thing it has is a full exhaust I believe. The Viper pulled the Supra from the 55-140 roll and also from the 35 roll. Did a few others as well but I can't remember what speed we were going. Supra did good though, it was keeping up pretty well, good races. I got 2 halfway decent videos out of all of them because the Viper was losing traction like crazy and it's hard as hell to keep a camera somewhat steady between that and it jerking me around between shifts. I need to take video from the Supra next time since it'll probably be a bit smoother. Nice car though, definately a head turner.

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So your roommate slapped an enormous turbo and intercooler and a giant exhaust onto an otherwise stock car and (after some terrible dyno numbers) is getting beat on the highway by a Viper. Surely you guys aren't surprised by this, right?

I think your roommate needs to learn the definition of "supporting modifications". And no, I'm not just trying to be an ass - I'm just giving my opinion, so don't take offense.
 
So your roommate slapped an enormous turbo and intercooler and a giant exhaust onto an otherwise stock car and (after some terrible dyno numbers) is getting beat on the highway by a Viper. Surely you guys aren't surprised by this, right?

I think your roommate needs to learn the definition of "supporting modifications". And no, I'm not just trying to be an ass - I'm just giving my opinion, so don't take offense.

Apparently you didn't look through the thread or any of the things I've said so far, but here, I'll do a short list of some of the supporting modifications. Also note that I said this was a comparison run, to see how the car does now and how it will do after everything is installed.

~11.5in. drag radials in the back, torque converter, tranny cooler, 1000cc injectors, dual fuel pumps, fuel pressure regulator, rest of the fuel system going in as I type, methanol injection, (built tranny is next), nitrous is also in the plans (has it sitting here just needs to install and fill the bottle, lines), 4in. exhaust, 4in. downpipe, Greddy 4-row FMIC, new electric fans, HKS drag coilovers, etc. etc. etc. I'm sure I'm leaving off many many things.

Terrible dyno numbers? This is on stock fuel, I guess you aren't familiar with that but try doing a little research on it. The fuel system was maxed out on ~14lbs. of boost, stock is like 11-12lbs. I believe. So with the turbo, exhaust, boost controller, intercooler, and ~2.5-3lbs. of boost with the tune he put out some very nice number before the fuel setup. Meaning that's all he could push it to before the car ran out of fuel.

Now, in your infinate wisdom, please share with me how it really should be done. The car is a month and a half old, and is being worked on in his spare time, I'll relay his apologies to you for not having all of his non-existant supporting mods on the car as fast as you'd like. No offence though.
 
Got a link to the video? I'm keen to check it out. 👍

I don't have it uploaded, borrowed a friend's camera so he's got it. I'll see if he can send it over to me and I'll post it whenever I can get it.

here's a few more pictures, I need buy a good camera one of these days.

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Apparently you didn't look through the thread or any of the things I've said so far, but here, I'll do a short list of some of the supporting modifications. Also note that I said this was a comparison run, to see how the car does now and how it will do after everything is installed.

~11.5in. drag radials in the back, torque converter, tranny cooler, 1000cc injectors, dual fuel pumps, fuel pressure regulator, rest of the fuel system going in as I type, methanol injection, (built tranny is next), nitrous is also in the plans (has it sitting here just needs to install and fill the bottle, lines), 4in. exhaust, 4in. downpipe, Greddy 4-row FMIC, new electric fans, HKS drag coilovers, etc. etc. etc. I'm sure I'm leaving off many many things.

Now take a step back and ask yourself, in reality, which of those mods are going to help the engine deal with the stress related to throwing a buttload more boost, fuel, and spark at the engine's internals? None. I was talking about forged pistons and rods, titanium valves and valve springs - Things that are going to protect the engine, not just flashy stuff to pad the modification list. And to that end, has the head been ported? Intake manifold? Your friend is getting way ahead of himself with gargantuan turbochargers and fuel injectors so big that TWO would totally cover the fuel needs on my V8 and then some.

Terrible dyno numbers? This is on stock fuel, I guess you aren't familiar with that but try doing a little research on it. The fuel system was maxed out on ~14lbs. of boost, stock is like 11-12lbs. I believe. So with the turbo, exhaust, boost controller, intercooler, and ~2.5-3lbs. of boost with the tune he put out some very nice number before the fuel setup. Meaning that's all he could push it to before the car ran out of fuel.

Please, all the fuel system could handle? I've seen people put down bigger numbers with smaller injectors than the Supra comes with stock (188cc if you'd like to know) on turbocharged engines. Whoever did the tuning* lied to him - And if he did it himself, he should leave it to the professionals, apparently. An ASE certification doesn't mean you can tune a modified car, either, before we even begin to get into that argument. (*and if there wasn't any tuning involved, why is he taking it to get it dyno'd?)

Now, in your infinate wisdom, please share with me how it really should be done. The car is a month and a half old, and is being worked on in his spare time, I'll relay his apologies to you for not having all of his non-existant supporting mods on the car as fast as you'd like. No offence though.

If you weren't too busy trying your hardest to be a jerk you would've calmed down and understood what I meant. I wasn't trying to say he didn't do anything but engine mods - I was trying to say he's going to hand grenade his engine if he's not careful because he's doing things in a very unbalanced fashion. But now I realize he probably won't care if he blows his engine up since he can just buy a few more while he lights up a Cohiba with a $100 bill.

:rolleyes:
 
Boost effectively knocks any inefficiencies in the intake/heads out of the picture, Ghost. Ask any 3800 SC or blown early SBC owner.

Also stock Supra internals are good to about 700 hp with a sloppy tune, and 800-900 hp if you get your A/F and spark on the dot.
 
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