Round 1

[Dapper]

I just watche p2, .003 behind the leader, and there is no sliding, kicking the rear end out, or anything of that nature to achieve that time.

Then, yours truly sets p1 in the heavier Skyline at Rome with (wait for it...) no sliding or drifting.
Lesson learned? Drive properly and fast times will be had.

 

[RedSuinit]

I just watche p2, .003 behind the leader, and there is no sliding, kicking the rear end out, or anything of that nature to achieve that time.

Then, yours truly sets p1 in the heavier Skyline at Rome with (wait for it...) no sliding or drifting.
Lesson learned? Drive properly and fast times will be had.

Like I said earlier I have only done Tsukuba circuit. I love how people don't know how to read. I also said that most (NOTE: MOST, not ALL damn it!) did have tails sliding out and such.

That's the key word "Little" just find enough of that where its pushing in the long sweepers and you might find a few tenth of a second in your lap times. You just have to dig deep and find that sweet spot of a slight drift. Don't worry about the other guys on the top ten just challenge yourself to out do your fastest lap and your own technic and I'm sure you will shave your lap times even more.

Which is what I have been saying this whole time. 7-10 degrees is where that maximum tire grip is, more than that and you are losing time.

 

[Dapper]

Like I said earlier I have only done Tsukuba circuit. I love how people don't know how to read. I also said that most (NOTE: MOST, not ALL damn it!) did have tails sliding out and such.



Which is what I have been saying this whole time. 7-10 degrees is where that maximum tire grip is, more than that and you are losing time.

I read, but you don't understand. Both cars are on the same tires, so, everything applies to that combo as the Tsukuba combo. Get it now?

I assure you that you are wrong.

Learn new techniques to keep up, or fall behind.

Just like anything in life. This is why some are always behind, and some are always keeping up.

 

[RedSuinit]

I read, but you don't understand. Both cars are on the same tires, so, everything applies to that combo as the Tsukuba combo. Get it now?

I assure you that you are wrong.

Wrong, two entirely different cars, on entirely different tracks. Therefore everything from combo 1 DOES NOT APPLY to combo 2. Why? Oh, because the cars are different and therefore should handle differently, also with a different track layout with different entry and exits, guess what, you CAN'T HANDLE IT THE SAME WAY! Do YOU get it now?! Looks like YOU are the one who doesn't understand.

So sliding the car around should be faster? Really? Because the #2 is still slower than #1. You just shot yourself in the foot. That sort of speed should not be possible with the way the #1 driver drives. That's my point, and always has been.

 

[luskiiimj]

Uh oh. Rome is freezing up on me every time I come around for the second lap.

 

[RedSuinit]

Uh oh. Rome is freezing up on me every time I come around for the second lap.

Yikes! You might want to back up your save data.

 

[Dapper]

It's really frustrating me that they are using comfort tires. It's rewarding those that can drift around corners instead of those that can actually take racing lines and understand racing principles.

None of this happens in the top 10. One guy hitting his e-brake, regardless of tires or car/track combo, has nothing to do with other guys who post fast times. Give credit where it's due, don't complain 👎

 

[scir16v]

I drift a 240sx. Drifting is a slow way around a turn, you are always slowing down. The only way to speed up during a drift is with massive amounts of power. I watched the fastest in my region and he does no drifting whatsoever. He is running the racing line and the car to their limits. I'm still having a hard time getting the car not to slide in turns.

 

[RedSuinit]

 

[dothackRAVE]

Bros, all this time spent whining can be better spent driving in GT Academy and getting better lap times.

To each his own. You wanna drift, go drift. You don't wanna drift, don't drift. Don't worry if someone on the internet is wrong. It's a competition, and the winners will be the ones with the best technique. The rest can just shut up.

tl;dr: Best driver wins. The rest can argue day and night, but they still lost.

 

[xe2bls]

I'm only using the ebrake because I need to get rid of understeer at some point during the corner. Anytime you counter steer (use opposite lock) you are losing time. A tiny little (fast) correction here and there is fine, but you always lose so much time.

The fastest is when you get a balance where the car steers for you. The steering wheel stays at around the center while the car goes around the corner. That's fast =)

 

[kasey435]

With my control i stand no chance against you wheel guys. Overall time: I'm placed 89 with all 3 laps in.

you got me beat. lol. Although this is my first GT experience. and new to the logitech g27. But i am having a blast.

 

[dothackRAVE]

I'm only using the ebrake because I need to get rid of understeer at some point during the corner. Anytime you counter steer (use opposite lock) you are losing time. A tiny little (fast) correction here and there is fine, but you always lose so much time.

The fastest is when you get a balance where the car steers for you. The steering wheel stays at around the center while the car goes around the corner. That's fast =)

<3 steering with the throttle.

I can do it with my old RX-8 in real life..., but in GT? I've got a ways to go yet!

 

[Drift260Z]

If you're sliding the car anymore than 7-10 degrees, you are out of the optimal tire grip and are losing time. Also, those are some big claims that you have formula experience, got any proof to back up that hot air? You can learn this from some basic racing classes (I have taken a few classes at the Skip Barber school of racing) I am not phenomenal by any means, and I don't think I will ever be a race car driver (outside of SCCA national events) but I know my basic racing principals, and sliding the back end out more than a few degrees will make you LOSE TIME.

man, you're really rude. yes, I do:

Sebring:

in karts at Daytona collecting a a podium finish at my first national kart race:

the SB stuff, I was one of 53 karters around the world selected for the SBRS Karting Scholarship Shootout in '08 where I was told by ex-F1 drivers and IMSA GT champions, and current GrandAm drivers that I wasn't wasting my time in the seat of a racing car. google "skip barber joseph cote".

also, I DD a '91 MR2 as well. I never said it's supposed to be D1GP out there, I just meant it helps to rotate the car to get the front pointed at the exit of a corner. that's what it feels like what's happening in these challenges.

 

[mushimushiyo]

stop arguing and see whose better at ranking. who cares. grip or drift, just race the damn events with ur own style and see where u stand. if u suck then too bad, if u wanna learn, go look at the top players and see how they do it and try to learn a thing and get a better rank.

GOOD LUCK to all.

 

[RedSuinit]

man, you're really rude. yes, I do:

Sebring:


in karts at Daytona collecting a a podium finish at my first national kart race:


the SB stuff, I was one of 53 karters around the world selected for the SBRS Karting Scholarship Shootout in '08 where I was told by ex-F1 drivers and IMSA GT champions, and current GrandAm drivers that I wasn't wasting my time in the seat of a racing car. google "skip barber joseph cote".

also, I DD a '91 MR2 as well. I never said it's supposed to be D1GP out there, I just meant it helps to rotate the car to get the front pointed at the exit of a corner. that's what it feels like what's happening in these challenges.

Speak for yourself.

go drive a car in real life and tell me that you aren't rotating the car.

When someone is rude to you, you tend to be rude back. I am no exception.

However, that is really cool that you have had the chance to do all of that. I would give a lot to get the same opportunity.

 

[Drift260Z]

I do see how that could have come off rude. mah bad. it didn't sound that way in my head when I typed it.

 

[RedSuinit]

I do see how that could have come off rude. mah bad. it didn't sound that way in my head when I typed it.

I apologize as well. However, I do stand by my statement. That is really stinking cool. How did you manage to come into that kind of opportunity?! You're also the guy that holds first place in the southeast division on Tsukuba circuit, aren't you? Or is that Rome that you are first place in?

 

[LeftyWright69]

I like to get the track wired by not breaking traction and then when I'm in the grove I use my foot to rear stear the car for style points and the best playbacks, but opening up the rearend is very risky. Generaly I'm thinking that if you see some one who is a little tail happy, it's probibly something they did to stay on line.

 

[Dapper]

A new p1 was set by a local alien with no hint of drifting. Again, the op is proven wrong because proper driving techniques yielded the best times.

 

[RedSuinit]

A new p1 was set by a local alien with no hint of drifting. Again, the op is proven wrong because proper driving techniques yielded the best times.

Jesus. You still missed my point. Even after I recited it to you multiple times. The fact that he was able to go that fast is the first place is ridiculous. FFS, quit trolling this thread and go find something better to do.

 

[eSZee]

I am around .7 seconds off the leader. Almost everyone in the top ten throw out the back end in order to get pointed down the straight and then do a slight drift around the corner. I have only done Tsukuba so far, so I don't know about the other two events.



However, in real life, you can feel the car sliding out, allowing you to hit that key 7-10% of slip angle to really hit that sweet spot with the tire grip. In a video game, you can not. Also look at most of the top ten replays, and you will notice that most all of them slide out the rear end of the car, and point the car the direction of the straightaway, and do a slight drift around most of the corners on Tsukuba.

Valid points, as usual, but this is a game and therefore people will find, I don't wanna say exploits but, shortcuts, so throw out a lot of what works in the real world and do what works in the game.

 

[Dapper]

Who is "he"? The guy who hits the e brake? He doesn't drift either. Stop calling others names and making false allegations.

 

[kmac540]

Turn 1 you do NOT have to kick the rear end to get through there good.
Turn 2 you need to diamond the corner a bit (or drift...)
Turn 3 you need to slide the car a bit to get the angle for good exit and track placement
Turn 5 you can drift, slide, diamond to be fast out.. Waiting for the center to roll takes WAY too long. If you want to be fast, you must rotate the noise of the car to get the angle off.
The last turn, well you can drift and diamond the corner, or keep a mid line, those seem to be fast enough.

The car feels good, and its fun a drive. Is it real? of course not.. Learn new techniques to keep up, or fall behind.

Since GT5P WRS, you have always had to be creative around corners to get the fastest time. How is this any different? Its the way this game works...physics model..ect

Thank you for posting some good advice... Almost sage words dare I say.
This is a competition and you have to keep your head cool, your mind open, and remember that this is a game.
Definitely a simulation, but still just a game and the techniques you learn are sound ones (even if they aren't the ones you would like to use in real life).

 

[RedSuinit]

Who is "he"? The guy who hits the e brake? He doesn't drift either. Stop calling others names and making false allegations.

Really? So you're seriously telling me that the back end of his car doesn't slip more than ten degrees? Sorry, but you're wrong. Nothing I have said is false, and you have yet to do anything but spout nonsense.

 

[Choate51]

Really? So you're seriously telling me that the back end of his car doesn't slip more than ten degrees? Sorry, but you're wrong. Nothing I have said is false, and you have yet to do anything but spout nonsense.

Sounds like you are on a one man crusade! ATTACK!!!!!!!!!

Calm down guy.

 

[R34EVO9]

I am around .7 seconds off the leader. Almost everyone in the top ten throw out the back end in order to get pointed down the straight and then do a slight drift around the corner. I have only done Tsukuba so far, so I don't know about the other two events.



However, in real life, you can feel the car sliding out, allowing you to hit that key 7-10% of slip angle to really hit that sweet spot with the tire grip. In a video game, you can not. Also look at most of the top ten replays, and you will notice that most all of them slide out the rear end of the car, and point the car the direction of the straightaway, and do a slight drift around most of the corners on Tsukuba.

The slight drift your seeing is the fastest away around the turns with those tires. Its hard to explain but that's the small line between full grip and drift.

 

[Dapper]

It's really frustrating me that they are using comfort tires. It's rewarding those that can drift around corners instead of those that can actually take racing lines and understand racing principles.

This is all false. It has nothing to do the tires, and it simply isn't happening.

 

[Choate51]

This is all false. It has nothing to do the tires, and it simply isn't happening.

Exactly, I;m not "drifting" around any of the corners. Am i getting up on the wheel and driving as hard as the game's vehicle will allow me? Damn right I am. Any of the top guys are good in any racing game. They find the extra bits of speed and take advantage of it. Whining about it on a public forum doesn't make it any easier for anyone.

Some guys just need some confidence. I know for a fact that my 3 fast laps were nowhere near what I call perfect. Confidence brings fast times. Also when you have a bad lap, use the rest of the lap as a practice run to try stuff and see if it worked or not.

 

[Hammrshell]

Do u have to participate in all 3 races or do they take the top times of all of them?