Russian Invasion of Ukraine

[inCloud]

Clarified. The same right-wing, nationalist, xenophobic, racist crap espoused by the party of Trump.

RF law is way different from US law. US is already in right spectrum of politics and RF is in left. Almost all sane politics in RF are in right spectrum of politics, because our country doesn't need to move into the left. And in US situation is opposite.

Our migration laws are nonexistent, our business build on slavery cheap migrants work. While RR saying xenophobic nonsense about crime levels and unemployment, he is somewhat right about migration politics. We need strict laws to insure that our country is safe and fair for everyone.

 

[sirjim73]

I don't think our Navy will buy it soon... Our armed forces are having a different focus on the type of weaponry to be acquired:

Bolsonaro faces stiff questioning over Brazilian army’s Viagra purchase | Brazil | The Guardian

Navy and air force – which reportedly bought over 30,000 pills – claim drug is being used to treat pulmonary hypertension

amp.theguardian.com

Bolsonaro faces hard scrutiny over military’s purchase of penile implants | Brazil | The Guardian

Army says it purchased three silicone implants, rather than the 60 reported by media, after revelations the military bought Viagra

amp.theguardian.com

That's the way to grow our Military Power!

If anyone ever tried to invade Brazil, they'd be sure to meet stiff opposition.

 

[MaxAttack]

If anyone ever tried to invade Brazil, they'd be sure to meet stiff opposition.

The many hardened members of Brazil's armed forces stand ever ready to face all comers.

 

[bobba1]

We see more and more about how the Russian war machine is mostly poorly maintained old crap, there was a good chance that the ship wasn't even fully operational.

 

[Liquid]

For the Russians:

@TadeuszGiczan
Smolensk officials and local activists have brought heavy machinery to the Polish military cemetery in Katyn and threatened to destroy it in response to the "demolition of Soviet monuments in Poland". They've also started a petition to resolve the "Katyn issue" once and for all.

As one reply to this tweet pointed out, Poland has been removing Soviet monuments, not cemetaries. Contextually speaking, it is also important to remember that the Soviet Union attacked Poland in 1939, in support of Germany, so the memory of liberation found in other places such as Czechia and Slovakia is quite different.

Furthermore, to even pretend to 'solve' the Katyn issue, a massacre unequivocally committed by the Soviet Union, is pathetic, disgusting and smacks of absolute thin-skinned butthurtedness. Destroying the war cemetary for a war crime you committed to get back at the nationality of the victims is getting right down to the lowest of lows.

 

[bobba1]

For the Russians:



As one reply to this tweet pointed out, Poland has been removing Soviet monuments, not cemetaries. Contextually speaking, it is also important to remember that the Soviet Union attacked Poland in 1939, in support of Germany, so the memory of liberation found in other places such as Czechia and Slovakia is quite different.

Furthermore, to even pretend to 'solve' the Katyn issue, a massacre unequivocally committed by the Soviet Union, is pathetic, disgusting and smacks of absolute thin-skinned butthurtedness. Destroying the war cemetary for a war crime you committed to get back at the nationality of the victims is getting right down to the lowest of lows.

Stalin orders also slaughtered 20,000 Poles and the blame was put on Hiltler.
Just a scummy history in a world of scummy history.
Vile country.

Lying is second nature, its built into the Russian DNA.

"The Nazis announced to the world in 1943 that they had unearthed the remains of thousands of Polish officers in the Katyn forests near Smolensk west of Moscow and said evidence suggested they had been killed by the Soviets. Moscow called the announcement a lie and said the Poles had been killed by the Nazis."

 

[RacingGrandpa]

No, I think it's "if you join NATO we will deploy nukes nearby to reinforce our borders and maintain balance

They have been in Kaliningrad forever... Can't get much closer

 

[Carbonox]

Ukraine arrests its own Ukrainian and offers to exchange a Ukrainian for other Ukrainians? Sounds like a good deal...

The Ukrainian's loyalty is with the Russians, and this is how they reward him for it? But sure, I guess it's too inconvenient for you to address beyond that.

 

[McLaren]

Ukraine arrests its own Ukrainian and offers to exchange a Ukrainian for other Ukrainians? Sounds like a good deal...

What a way of downplaying the relationship Medvedchuk has with Putin. Must be the new round of Russian propaganda rolling through to detach Medvedchuk from dein Putin.

In addition, it will be recalled that according to available information, the godfather of Marchenko and Medvedchuk's daughters is none other than Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Медведчук і Марченко помінялися місцями

tabloid.pravda.com.ua

Mr Medvedchuk’s own views on the resolution of the conflict are reliably pro-Moscow and have broadly evolved in step with the Kremlin.

Long associated with a campaign to federalise Ukraine, Mr Medvedchuk advocates granting comprehensive autonomy to the separatist statelets in eastern Ukraine. The two were separate processes, he said. On Donbass, he would “soon” be presenting a new proposal for the return of the regions to Ukraine. This would propose self-government on the terms formerly granted to Crimea.

Mr Medvedchuk said he “often” discussed Ukraine with his compadre, Vladimir Putin. How often was for them to know. “More than once a year,” he said, before winking. He would wink several times in the course of the interview.

His friendship with Vladimir Putin began in 2003. They were introduced by Alexander Voloshin, then Mr Medvedchuk's opposite number as head of the Kremlin administration. The two soon realised out they had close worldviews – “how else could we keep our relationship going?” – but they diverged on one key question.

“Putin thinks we are one nation, but I think it’s not one nation, but two Slavic nations, with intertwined histories, religion. I tell him this all the time. I don’t think it’s one nation. You simply can’t say this.”

Writing in All the Kremlin’s Men, the well-connected Russian journalist Mikhail Zygar claimed that Vladimir Putin believed that no question involving Ukraine could be solved without Viktor Medvedchuk. This is the major reservoir for the political operator’s newfound power.

But Mr Medvedchuk insists it would be a “sin” for him not to use his close ties with the Russian president.

How Putin's best friend in Ukraine is staging an improbable political comeback

Viktor Medvedchuk counts Vladimir Putin as godfather to his daughter and his looking to put himself back on the political map

www.independent.co.uk

Ever since Viktor Medvedchuk, the head of Ukraine's presidential administration, befriended Vladimir Putin since the early 2000s, he has always had a special role to play in Ukrainian-Russian relations. Depending on the circumstances, it changed, one thing remained the same - Medvedchuk always shared the position of the President of Russia.

Віктор Медведчук: політична легалізація | Громадське телебачення

Віктор Медведчук любить підкреслювати: він — особистий друг президента Росії Володимира Путіна. Президент Росії анексував Крим та веде війну на Донбасі. Здавалося б, у такій ситуації Медведчуку не має бути місця в українській політиці. Та це не так. - Читайте на Громадському

hromadske.ua

Ukrainian politician Viktor Medvedchuk, a close ally of Russia's Vladimir Putin, has made a political comeback after his party came second in the country's weekend parliamentary vote.

His pro-Moscow Opposition Platform-For Life party won 13 percent of the vote, allowing US-sanctioned Medvedchuk to return to Ukraine's parliament after more than a decade.

Putin ally stages political comeback in Ukraine - France 24

Putin ally stages political comeback in Ukraine

www.france24.com

Yeah, he's definitely one of Ukraine's "own".

 

[TexRex]

 

[bobba1]

Yep what people like rage racer forget is that in the UK we can call Farage a tool quite freely, and Boris and any politician.
It's definitely not perfect but we can also vote to get them in or out.
We can protest, with a few rules, without fear of death.

So yes, Farage is born in the same country as me, but I'm not on his 'side'.
Still consider myself patriotic.

The myth that Putin has been able to ruthlessly create, is that its un Russian to go against him.
Where as its actually the opposite.

That is why UK and USA democracy whilst not perfect and there is a lot I'm not happy about, is about as good as it can get IMO.
Certainly compared to Russia.

Russian TV show talking happily about genocide....... utterly disgusting.

 

[Blitz24]

Yep what people like rage racer forget is that in the UK we can call Farage a tool quite freely, and Boris and any politician.

Radio Yerevan was asked: "Is it true that there is freedom of speech in the USSR (in some versions, Russia), just like in the USA?"
Radio Yerevan answered: "In principle, yes. In the USA, you can stand in front of the White House and yell, “Down with Reagan!”, and you will not be punished. Equally, you can also stand in the Red Square in Moscow and yell, “Down with Reagan!”, and you will not be punished."

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Russia is going full Nazi Germany. Not a good look.

edit: Beyond the shear horror of it, the level of undeserved arrogance on display by RF in this conflict is staggering. The general attitude seems to be "how dare you fight back?" We're a SUPERPOWER! When combined with complete ineptitude and barbarism of the military (along the entire chain of command), it would seem that Russia, as an entity, has a vastly inflated sense of self worth and a completely misguided moral compass*. I think this is turning into a feedback loop where Russian soldiers feel humiliated and then take out their frustration on the Ukrainian people, which then makes the whole campaign even more sloppy and barbaric - more humiliating for Russia....

*That's not to say that all Russians could be described this way.

 

[Carbonox]

Did you know Russia is so progressive that ordinary familymen are only allowed to go out and commit rape if the wife grants permission first?

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Did you know Russia is so progressive that ordinary familymen are only allowed to go out and commit rape if the wife grants permission first?

Sickening.

 

[Blitz24]

Did you know Russia is so progressive that ordinary familymen are only allowed to go out and commit rape if the wife grants permission first?

This is one step above the Republicans in some states, who do not necessarily care if the girl gets pregnant.

 

[bobba1]

I read a grim piece which was along the lines of Russian soldiers discussing raping Ukraine women so much that they would never want sex again so they couldn't create anymore Ukrainians....

Barbaric, heading towards Viking behaviour there.
Russians raped a lot whilst siding with Hitler too.
I guess women's rights are pretty low in Russia anyway?

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Russia formally protests US weapons shipments to Ukraine

Russia this week formally protested the US' ongoing shipment of weapons to Ukraine, sending a diplomatic note to the State Department warning of "unpredictable consequences" should the support continue, according to two US officials and another source familiar with the document.

This vague threat might have had some menace at the start of this conflict. Now, I think the most appropriate response is:

Russian state department, go **** yourself.

 

[TexRex]

Russia formally protests US weapons shipments to Ukraine



This vague threat might have had some menace at the start of this conflict. Now, I think the most appropriate response is:

Russian state department, go **** yourself.

I'd buy that stamp.

 

[Blitz24]

Russia formally protests US weapons shipments to Ukraine



This vague threat might have had some menace at the start of this conflict. Now, I think the most appropriate response is:

Russian state department, go **** yourself.

In a few weeks the Russian state department will somehow sink itself with an errant missile.

 

[sirjim73]

Russia formally protests US weapons shipments to Ukraine



This vague threat might have had some menace at the start of this conflict. Now, I think the most appropriate response is:

Russian state department, go **** yourself.

I formally protest the ongoing shipment of Russian weapons to Ukraine, which will have unpredictable consequences.

Tanks being towed away by tractors, ships catching fire and sinking in bad weather, that sort of thing.

 

[eran0004]

In a few weeks the Russian state department will somehow sink itself with an errant missile.

Hopefully the Kremlin will spontaneously and catastrophically combust.

 

[Joey D]

Zelenskyy says the world must 'be ready' for Russia to attack Ukraine with tactical nukes

NATO has accused Russia of "nuclear saber-rattling" after the Kremlin said it would use nukes if it felt like its existence was threatened.

www.businessinsider.com

I don't think this would end well for Russia. Of course, Russia's tactical nuclear weapons would need to work and the launch device would need to have functioning mechanics and tires in order to transport the weapon within range. Honestly, the odds are probably 50/50 with regards to launching or blowing up killing all the Russian soldiers in the area prior to launch.

 

[Dotini]

Zelenskyy says the world must 'be ready' for Russia to attack Ukraine with tactical nukes

NATO has accused Russia of "nuclear saber-rattling" after the Kremlin said it would use nukes if it felt like its existence was threatened.

www.businessinsider.com

I don't think this would end well for Russia. Of course, Russia's tactical nuclear weapons would need to work and the launch device would need to have functioning mechanics and tires in order to transport the weapon within range. Honestly, the odds are probably 50/50 with regards to launching or blowing up killing all the Russian soldiers in the area prior to launch.

CNN talking heads agree tactical nukes are the next thing to appear on the battlefield.

 

[Keef]

Russia formally protests US weapons shipments to Ukraine



This vague threat might have had some menace at the start of this conflict. Now, I think the most appropriate response is:

Russian state department, go **** yourself.

Russia is acting like the drunk asshole at a bar who just won't quit messing around until a fight breaks out and somebody goes to jail. Or worse. The problem with those types is they don't respond to reason or negotiation, they only respond to escalation, and they crave the challenge. Even when everybody is against them because they're obviously in the wrong they still feel like everybody else is wrong and they keep going until the cops show up and things get ugly. They simply don't live in reality and they're almost always repeat offenders.

Russia.

 

[Tornado]

Maybe if they cry about it enough into the Black Sea it will dry up and they can get their boat back.

 

[bobba1]

We let Putin get away with far to much for far to long.
Syria, killing people in the UK, downing passenger planes, forcing a Russian driver to have to be in F1 because of the Russian GP.
(real contract drawn up by Bernie, hence why we had rubbish Russian drivers in F1).

He sits there now wondering why we aren't just letting him tale over Ukraine.

Hopefully this is now the end of it.

 

[Dennisch]

This is some quality television.

 

[TexRex]

This is some quality television.

Russian Wilford Brimley is mad.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

This is some quality television.

You're ***-damned right we are delivering weapons to Ukraine 24/7 and we have the capacity and will to do it for as long as Ukraine wants us to. Casus-Belli - my god, do these people even believe the **** that comes out of their own mouth? At what point does Ukraine get to declare Casus-Belli? Not when 200,000 foreign soldiers invade their country? These morons can't even decide if the ship was sunk by enemy fire or their own incompetence.

Pretty sure the ****head at the end of the video is advocating for using nuclear weapons against Kyiv.