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‘It’s a 100% mobilisation’: day one of Russia’s drive to build its army
Reports ethnic minorities may be disproportionately affected while protesters in Moscow drafted on arrestwww.theguardian.com
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They're probably dumb enough to place the protesters in the same units as well. Wouldn't want to be an officer leading that bunch. 
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Getting strong "if you don't stop complaining, I will return this entire unit home" vibes.They're probably dumb enough to place the protesters in the same units as well. Wouldn't want to be an officer leading that bunch.
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"Alright guys, on the count of 3 we engage the enemy!... guys?... where the hell did everyone go?" - Capt. PutinasskisservichWouldn't want to be an officer leading that bunch.
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And they said it was difficult to get a flight out of Russia:
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tbf they're running a touch behind schedule so if "rusted to hell tetanus magnets" is how they see getting back on track needs to go, then so be it.
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5.45x39 has much less recoil and more range - and now Russia has to plan logistics for another cartridge that usually isn't used in the Military anymore. And not just the cartridge but also the magazines. As if Russia isn't having enough problems with logistics and getting stuff to the front lines already.
And lets not forget that the AKM(47) was replaced by the AK-74 in the Afghan war 40 YEARS ago. My guess is that Russia is running out of small arms and they have to resort to 60 year old relics they stored in some forgotten shed with no roof somewhere in the Urals - or they are buying the used up AK's from some poor satellite state that is still using the AKM.
Those guns haven't seen a drop of oil or maintenance for decades.
This smells a little of desperation.
(Years ago I owned a polish made Radom AKM by the way, shot it a lot, it was a lot of fun )
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AFAIK, russian specops prefer 7.62 variants as more lethal, both cartilages are in active use. I could see some obvious problems with them, but its not as dramatic as you may think. Small arms ammo is last problem for frontline, fuel and artillery ammo is waaay more serious.
If you interested, some units in RF using SKS, which was out of business in 47.
Looks like in Dagestan protest becomes riot.
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The state in which they are is the main issue, it undermines troop morale which isn't very high to begin with. Getting crummy equipment and rusty rifles isn't going to boost morale and screams cannon fodder. I certainly would feel that way, fighting for a country that cannot - or cannot be bothered to - provide me with properly maintained equipment is just sad.
The funds for proper maintenance and storage of the equipment was probably diverted to buy new furniture for the yachts and to pay the private schools for the oligarch's children in Switzerland.
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So I guess Putin's just rapidly giving up all pretense of this being a play for territory and focusing on exterminating as many 'undesirables' as possible before being inevitably deposed. Sending barely trained/untrained civilian conscripts to the front lines with obsolete weapons is the move of someone who knows they're beat and is just trying to take as many people to hell with them as possible.
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Guns? Yes. Bullets? Nope. Gun powder isnt last forever.
As I said before - its not like RF government all that racist, they just preventing separatism. Same thing was done in most depressing regions of Slavic russia. Its even scarier because male population in those regions are nonexistent and birth rate is close to zero. Some towns would be ghost towns after this.
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Logistically its a nightmare, imagine soldiers desperately needing to be resupplied with ''rifle ammo'' (atop everything else) only to have the troops requesting the ammo get 7.62x39 instead of the 5.54x39 their guns are chambered for. And vice versa. Its a nightmare.
In 1944 the Germans introduced the Sturmgewehr 44 using an all new cartridge, the 7.92x33 Kurz. Troops at the front loved the rifle but logistics always got it wrong, soldiers who needed 7.92x57 got the x33 and soldiers equipped with the STG got the x57. Thats why Hitler did not want the rifle to be introduced at all because of logistical reasons, but they did it behind his back anyway.
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People here are shooting 8x56r from world war one out of their Steyr M95 all the time. I used 7.92x57 in my 98 that was produced in 1936. If stored cool and dry, ammunition can last a hundred years or more very easily. If stored incorrectly, ammunition can go bad in a matter of weeks.
Storing it in very hot temperature can lead to powder getting more aggressive resulting in overpressure, storing ammo with temperature all over the place usually makes the primers wonky resulting in hangfires. Humid conditions will corrode the cases and in cheap ammo, humidity will creep through the primer pocket and make the powder and primer damp.
Russia has been coating rifle cases with green lacquer and sealed primers with lacquer since WWII, old 60+ year old Russian ammo usually works.
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