Russian Invasion of Ukraine
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It is the height of irony that Putin now faces his biggest threat for within Russia itself - after all of his bleating about 'the West' threatening Russia's future.
That said, I think this is a very dangerous development, and for those who want to see Putin gone, it may well be a case of 'be careful what you wish for'.
That said, I think this is a very dangerous development, and for those who want to see Putin gone, it may well be a case of 'be careful what you wish for'.
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Prigojin is a horrible man, but he isn't hypocritical moron with unrealistic expectations. If he won:
1) War will be over
2) Negotiations with West would start next day
3) ФСБ will be exterminated
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So you're telling me that treating professional soldiers-for-hire like unpaid interns and using the philosophy of "the more of them die, the fewer i have to pay afterwards" isn't a good strategy, especially when they have access to large amounts of military hardware and are in your own territory?
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SestoScudo
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Lets give mercernaries so much power.
When has this worked in history. Imagine my shock.
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Even if this doesn't amount to much in the military sense, which most seem to think will be the case, the reputational damage it's going to do to Putin is extremely significant. There's no way the Kremlin will be able to continue to spin the war as being under control and going well when someone this high profile decides to go into business for themselves and directly challenges the leadership.
Though it does make me think of how even 20 years ago, before 24 hour news coverage and social media could instantly transmit this, the whole incident would have probably slid right by as a minor mention on most major news outlets. It really does show just how critical information control has become in in modern warfare.
Though it does make me think of how even 20 years ago, before 24 hour news coverage and social media could instantly transmit this, the whole incident would have probably slid right by as a minor mention on most major news outlets. It really does show just how critical information control has become in in modern warfare.
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Vladimir Putin's reliance on Wagner was always a sign of a fundamental weakness - now it may turn out to be a monumental strategic error.
At the very least, it is a colossal embarrassment and personal humiliation for Putin, as well as a challenge to the web of lies that Putin has created to keep both his military and the public on side. The Wagner/Prigozhin domino has fallen and it remains to be seen how many others (i.e. Russian military) might follow.
At the very least, it is a colossal embarrassment and personal humiliation for Putin, as well as a challenge to the web of lies that Putin has created to keep both his military and the public on side. The Wagner/Prigozhin domino has fallen and it remains to be seen how many others (i.e. Russian military) might follow.
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Inb4 ''Wagner was bought be evil west to turn against Russia to destroy it!''
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