RX7 fastest!?

[4DSC]

I normally do little stock competitions around the Ring in arcade on SS tires with comparable cars such as Skyline Mspec Nur, Supra RZ, Stang Cobra R, M3, RX7 Spirit R, NSX, 350Z etc. Well for awhile now the M3 has been holding the record, but with my recently aquired skills I was able to easily beat that time setting a 7:39 with the Mspec Nur.. The others are a bit harder to achieve that time with, but possible. The only car that I ASSUMED was faster was the NSX-R since I consistantly hit 7:36's back in the day like nothing.. So getting to the point, just for kicks I wanted to give the RX7 Spirit R a try since I was really enjoying it last time I drove it.. Threw the Skyline ghost replay on, and to my amazement I out did the Skyline on everything setting a 7:35 with an RX7!!?? I think the NSX-R may have it's hands full..

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Nice.

And no, no sig pics allowed. Somebody apparently was running around with a 850kb animated monster.

 

[Greycap]

In defend of the Skyline, you should be driving the V-SpecII Nür if you want the best of every model. The M-Spec models are biased more towards luxury (if a GT-R can be that) while the V-Spec models are the fastest ones, the V-SpecII Nür being the culmination of the R34 development.

The RX-7 has a great advantage in the weight, so does the NSX-R. Of those two I'd still expect the NSX-R to take the trophy if both cars are driven to the maximum of their ability.

 

[daan]

And no, no sig pics allowed. Somebody apparently was running around with a 850kb animated monster.

Where did you make that bit up from? Sig pics have never been allowed here.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Hmm? I picked it up in some thread...

No idea where I read it though...

EDIT: Okay, prolly another instance of my mind playing tricks on me.

 

[Fluke]

I truly believe that the RX7 is better than the skyline's, Evo's and dare i say it, Impreza's?

All i know is that most of the top places on the tsukuba curcuit challenge is dominated by RX7's!

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

And Corvette Z06 (C6 7.0L Monster) will eat them all, except the new GT-R R35, where I think it would depend on the track who would win there. Supposedly at Nurburgring the GT-R wins probably because it has AWD to put power down with in the twisties.

 

[wing_0]

And Corvette Z06 (C6 7.0L Monster) will eat them all, except the new GT-R R35, where I think it would depend on the track who would win there. Supposedly at Nurburgring the GT-R wins probably because it has AWD to put power down with in the twisties.

Probably, but the talk is about the Nurburgring and about GT4. And I'm afraid that GT4 does not have the R35 GT-R nor the C6 Z06.

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

Probably, but the talk is about the Nurburgring and about GT4. And I'm afraid that GT4 does not have the R35 GT-R nor the C6 Z06.

Yeah I know, couldn't help myself. I've done this a few times as well, running stock tune battles at Nurburgring, the Oz cars are real close, but how can you compare the standard Holden to an FPV, it should have been HSV vs FPV or Holden vs Ford, still- you can jack up the power to about 285kw for the power of the Clubsport on the SS and vs the GT against the Commodore, not as quick as them little pocket rockets you call cars, but they're cooler.

 

[AOS-]

Of course RX-7 can outdo a lot in Tsukuba, but there are MANY things that factor into which car is better at whatever track it is..

For instance, have your driven the Skyline more than you driven the RX-7?
-You may have outdid the skyline because the skyline has been driven a bit more than the RX-7. Also, having driven the skyline first, I wouldn't expect you to screw up corners as much with the next car - which just so happens to be the FD.

Remember there are spectrums that categorizes cars:

Acceleration <---> Top Speed

Top Performance <---> Endurance

( Corners > Straights ) <---> (Straights > Corners )

 

[Fluke]

I have an R33 GTR and a R34 GTR along with my RX7, and i drive them all regurlarly around the same tracks, midfield, tsukuba and of course nurbergring.

Notice how i said " i truly believe" as in, the FD is a much better car for me to drive, but i know people who are adamant that FWD is better than RWD!

 

[Driving Park]

Well, I beat the real-world Nurb time for a Porsche Carrera GT in an RX-7...
...the Amemiya RX-7.
Still has about half the horsepower though.

:-)

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

4DSC, you may also find it interesting to run stock supercars around Nurburgring to see which is fastest. Especially as many cars in GT4 didn't make production. See how fast they would have been if they did.

 

[Hot Pie]

oh course the rx-7 is fastest, havent the touge-max videos tought you anything? the fd never loses haha.

 

[.-gabriel-]

im using my rx7 with 534 hp w/o everything bought and it owns everything but endurances...thats the only bad part about the car its good for 8-10 lap races but not the endurances

 

[4DSC]

Nice.

And no, no sig pics allowed. Somebody apparently was running around with a 850kb animated monster.

LOL

In defend of the Skyline, you should be driving the V-SpecII Nür if you want the best of every model. The M-Spec models are biased more towards luxury (if a GT-R can be that) while the V-Spec models are the fastest ones, the V-SpecII Nür being the culmination of the R34 development.

You maybe right about real life, but in this game, the Mspec is a drop faster for some reason. Corners better too I think. Try and compare the two, I think you'll find the Mspec setting a faster lap more consistantly. In fact, the Mspec was tuned for the Ring, not just luxury.

Of course RX-7 can outdo a lot in Tsukuba, but there are MANY things that factor into which car is better at whatever track it is..

For instance, have your driven the Skyline more than you driven the RX-7?
-You may have outdid the skyline because the skyline has been driven a bit more than the RX-7. Also, having driven the skyline first, I wouldn't expect you to screw up corners as much with the next car - which just so happens to be the FD.

Remember there are spectrums that categorizes cars:

Acceleration <---> Top Speed

Top Performance <---> Endurance

( Corners > Straights ) <---> (Straights > Corners )

Well I did drive the Skyline alot more since it's my favorite car, but I had no idea I would be so much faster with the FD.

Well, I beat the real-world Nurb time for a Porsche Carrera GT in an RX-7...
...the Amemiya RX-7.
Still has about half the horsepower though.

:-)

Try using N3 tires for that.. I don't know if you'll be able to then. I think thats similar to what the Carrera GT used in real life.

4DSC, you may also find it interesting to run stock supercars around Nurburgring to see which is fastest. Especially as many cars in GT4 didn't make production. See how fast they would have been if they did.

Yeah, should be a blast driving them with simulation tires (braking from 1 mile away usually lol..)

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Yeah, 1 mile braking distances sound about right...

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

So what, the supercars are the fastest around the ring, don't you think it would be interesting to see which concept supercars would have been close to or even beaten the top time at Nurburgring (which I consider the Zonda, anyone can take a modified car and beat a factory tune so that M3 doesn't count ) had they reached production.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I haven't driven enough FD-era RX7s yet in GT4 to fully form an opinion. Hopefully I'll get more RX7 action this year...

 

[Vince247]

Hope you do, it's worth it.

 

[4DSC]

So what, the supercars are the fastest around the ring, don't you think it would be interesting to see which concept supercars would have been close to or even beaten the top time at Nurburgring (which I consider the Zonda, anyone can take a modified car and beat a factory tune so that M3 doesn't count ) had they reached production.

Yeah i totally agree, but i just really dont like alot of the braking systems on these cars especially the GT40.. It's really bad..

 

[Rypien]

I dont use SS rubber cause its too grippy and unrealistic, but i do enjoy running these types of cars around the Nurburgring using RD (road) tyres.

I've got a huge list of cars from quite a few drivers that run the Ring at various Lans - http://www.joeracer.designdesktop.com/misc/GT4 Ring Openday TIMESHEET 2008.xls

If you sort through some of the times for various Japanese performace cars you can see that most are pretty even -

7'49.034 Joe Racer 2002 Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A (FD)
7'50.534 Joe Racer 2001 Mazda RX-7 Bathurst R (FD)
7'51.361 Joe Racer 1998 Mazda RX-7 Type RS
7'53.317 Joe Racer 2000 Mazda RX-7 Type RS
7'53.520 Joe Racer 2000 Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD)
7'55.755 TheForce 2002 Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A (FD)
7'56.694 Hayden 1998 Mazda RX-7 Type RS
7'59.800 NWS77 2002 Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A (FD)
8'00.566 Rypien 2001 Mazda RX-7 Bathurst R (FD)
8'02.532 Rypien 2002 Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A (FD)
8'02.636 Smallhorses 2001 Mazda RX-7 Bathurst R (FD)
8'02.814 SiR_Dan 2001 Mazda RX-7 Bathurst R (FD)
8'03.119 TheForce 2001 Mazda RX-7 Bathurst R (FD)
8'03.154 SiR_Dan 2002 Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A (FD)
8'04.655 Joe Racer 1996 Mazda RX-7 Type RS
8'06.375 Joe Racer 1996 Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD)
8'08.476 Hayden 2002 Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A (FD)
8'08.599 Touring Mars 2001 Mazda RX-7 Bathurst R (FD)
8'08.975 Joe Racer 1995 Mazda RX-7 Type R-S
8'09.105 Joe Racer 1997 Mazda RX-7 Type RS-R
8'09.451 Joe Racer 1995 Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD)
8'09.602 Joe Racer 1993 Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD)
8'10.287 bo-no 2001 Mazda RX-7 Bathurst R (FD)
8'11.603 Joe Racer 1991 Mazda RX-7 Type R
8'12.239 Joe Racer 1992 Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD)
8'12.774 Joe Racer 1993 Mazda RX-7 Type R
8'13.906 TheForce 2002 Mazda RX-7 Type RS
8'15.255 PRF 1995 Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD)
8'21.509 TheForce 2000 Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD)
8'24.064 SiR_Bryce 1998 Mazda RX-7 Type RS
8'26.751 PRF 1992 Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD)



7'48.111 Joe Racer 2002 Nissan Skyline GTR M-Spec Nur 4WD
7'51.635 Joe Racer 2000 Nissan Skyline GTR 4WD
7'52.757 PRF 2000 Nissan Skyline GTR 4WD
7'53.345 Joe Racer 2002 Nissan Skyline GTR VspecII Nur 4WD
7'53.454 Joe Racer 1999 Nissan Skyline GTR 4WD
7'54.038 Joe Racer 2000 Nissan Skyline GTR MidnightPurple 4WD
7'54.243 Joe Racer 2000 Nissan Skyline GTR VspecII 4WD
7'54.709 Joe Racer 1999 Nissan Skyline GTR Vspec N1 4WD
7'54.935 Joe Racer 2002 Nissan Skyline GTR M-Spec 4WD
7'55.508 Joe Racer 2000 Nissan Skyline GTR VspecII N1 4WD
7'57.958 PRF 1999 Nissan Skyline GTR 4WD
7'58.552 PRF 2000 Nissan Skyline GTR VspecII 4WD
7'58.957 Joe Racer 1999 Nissan Skyline GTR MidnightPurple 4WD
7'59.695 SiR_Dan 2002 Nissan Skyline GTR M-Spec Nur 4WD
8'01.310 Prancing Horse 2000 Nissan Skyline GTR VspecII N1 4WD
8'01.985 TheForce 2000 Nissan Skyline GTR VspecII N1 4WD
8'02.506 TheForce 2002 Nissan Skyline GTR Vspec II Nur 4WD
8'03.040 Crazyhorse 2000 Nissan Skyline GTR VspecII N1 4WD
8'03.146 PRF 1996 Nissan Skyline GTR 4WD
8'03.307 Hayden 1999 Nissan Skyline GTR Vspec 4WD
8'03.330 PRF 1997 Nissan Skyline GTR Vspec 4WD
8'03.681 PRF 1995 Nissan Skyline GTR N1 4WD
8'03.976 PRF 1996 Nissan Skyline GTR LM Limited 4WD
8'04.020 TheForce 2002 Nissan Skyline GTR M-Spec Nur 4WD
8'04.289 PRF 1995 Nissan Skyline GTR 4WD
8'06.140 Joe Racer 1995 Nissan Skyline GTR N1 4WD
8'06.359 Rypien 2000 Nissan Skyline GTR VspecII N1 4WD
8'08.632 PRF 1991 Nissan Skyline GTR 4WD
8'09.071 PRF 1994 Nissan Skyline GTR VspecII 4WD
8'09.683 PRF 1991 Nissan Skyline GTR N1 4WD
8'09.862 NWS77 2002 Nissan Skyline GTR M-Spec Nur 4WD
8'10.105 Joe Racer 1993 Nissan Skyline GTR Vspec N1 4WD
8'10.166 PRF 1989 Nissan Skyline GTR 4WD
8'10.281 SiR_Dan 2000 Nissan Skyline Vspec II N1 4WD
8'10.448 PRF 1993 Nissan Skyline GTR Vspec N1 4WD
8'11.389 SiR_Dan 2000 Nissan Skyline Vspec II N1 4WD
8'12.106 aDifferentName 1999 Nissan Skyline GTR Vspec 4WD
8'12.433 TheForce 2000 Nissan Skyline Vspec II N1 4WD
8'12.472 Hayden 1993 Nissan Skyline GTR Vspec N1 4WD
8'14.794 Rypien 1994 Nissan Skyline GTR Vspec II 4WD
8'15.184 PRF 1993 Nissan Skyline GTR 4WD
8'15.248 Rypien 1991 Nissan Skyline GTR 4WD
8'15.596 NWS77 1996 Nissan Skyline GTR Vspec 4WD
8'16.347 Bollocks 1999 Nissan Skyline GTR 4WD
8'20.814 TheForce 1993 Nissan Skyline GTR Vspec N1 4WD
8'23.879 Hayden 2001 Nissan Skyline Sedan 300GT FR
8'34.995 SiR_Bryce 2002 Nissan Skyline GTR M-Spec Nur 4WD
8'39.199 SiR_Bryce 1999 Nissan Skyline GTR Vspec N1 4WD
8'46.823 Dorkboy 2002 Nissan Skyline GTR M-Spec Nur 4WD



7'41.818 Joe Racer 2002 Honda NSX Type R MR
7'43.002 Hayden 2002 Honda NSX Type R MR
7'48.086 Joe Racer 1992 Honda NSX Type R MR
7'51.296 aDifferentName 2002 Honda NSX Type R MR
7'51.430 phino 2002 Honda NSX Type R MR
7'53.549 bo-no 2002 Honda NSX Type R MR
7'53.714 TheForce 2002 Honda NSX Type R MR
7'53.732 SiR_Dan 2002 Honda NSX Type R MR
7'53.821 ColtCobra 2002 Honda NSX Type R MR
7'56.200 Hayden 2001 Honda NSX Type S MR
7'56.549 Hayden 1999 Honda NSX Type S Zero MR
7'57.387 Small_Fryz 2002 Honda NSX Type R MR
7'57.726 Joe Racer 2001 Honda NSX MR
7'58.002 02ti 2002 Honda NSX Type R MR
7'58.018 Joe Racer 1997 Honda NSX Type S MR
8'00.183 PRF 1997 Honda NSX Type S Zero MR
8'00.398 Joe Racer 1997 Honda NSX MR
8'01.515 evilteez 2002 Honda NSX Type R MR
8'01.516 TheForce 1992 Honda NSX Type R MR
8'02.329 PRF 1999 Honda NSX Type S Zero MR
8'03.849 Joe Racer 1999 Honda NSX Type S MR
8'04.851 PRF 1992 Honda NSX Type R MR
8'05.567 Wolfi 1970 2002 Honda NSX Type R MR
8'05.573 Kaneda 2002 Honda NSX Type R MR
8'05.830 Joe Racer 1995 Honda NSX MR
8'06.090 Joe Racer 1993 Honda NSX MR
8'06.384 Joe Racer 1990 Honda NSX MR
8'08.120 jafa 2002 Honda NSX Type R MR
8'11.075 Duke of Nemesis 2002 Honda NSX Type R MR
8'12.863 PRF 1990 Honda NSX MR
8'14.758 Joe Racer 1997 Honda NSX Type S Zero MR
8'17.647 TheForce 1997 Honda NSX Type S Zero MR
8'23.607 Dorkboy 2002 Honda NSX Type R MR
8'25.219 racingt40 2002 Honda NSX Type R MR
8'25.738 SiR_Bryce 2002 Honda NSX Type R MR
9'30.112 Luncho Carlrissian 2002 Honda NSX Type R MR

 

[Tulok]

LOL



You maybe right about real life, but in this game, the Mspec is a drop faster for some reason. Corners better too I think. Try and compare the two, I think you'll find the Mspec setting a faster lap more consistantly. In fact, the Mspec was tuned for the Ring, not just luxury.



Well I did drive the Skyline alot more since it's my favorite car, but I had no idea I would be so much faster with the FD.



Try using N3 tires for that.. I don't know if you'll be able to then. I think thats similar to what the Carrera GT used in real life.




Yeah, should be a blast driving them with simulation tires (braking from 1 mile away usually lol..)

n3 tires aren't equivalent to real world performance tires... they are still performance RADIALS the Carrera GT probably used the equivalent of S2 or S3

 

[Picc84]

Someone mentioned the Zo6.. No one cares about American cars anymore... lmao

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

That was me, and that's because they gave up on building a car as good for the money, it's either something cheap and dodgy- like Toyotas of current, or something super expensive and as a result- too quick, like Ferrari.

 

[Tulok]

the japanese cars are THE fastest production cars in the game arent they?? faster than tuned zondas etc, correct?

 

[4DSC]

I dont use SS rubber cause its too grippy and unrealistic, but i do enjoy running these types of cars around the Nurburgring using RD (road) tyres.

It seems like it's the other way around, no? I find it hard to believe that the way those 'simulation' tires react is closer to real life. Real cars are not so hard to drive at the limit as cars in the game are with sim tires. You have to brake from really far in the game, and you go really slow through the turns. But I have never been on a road course, only street racing.. So what do I know stupid new york

the japanese cars are THE fastest production cars in the game arent they?? faster than tuned zondas etc, correct?

YES

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

That's because Japanese made the game and really truly tried to make their cars look best. Let me buy a stage 4 turbo for my Monaro and I will see you on the other side of 1500hp My CIEN beats every road car I've come across so far except one. That's R3 tyres and no hp improvements, come and see it at Aussie Tuners. Give it a review if you like.

 

[4DSC]

That's because Japanese made the game and really truly tried to make their cars look best. Let me buy a stage 4 turbo for my Monaro and I will see you on the other side of 1500hp My CIEN beats every road car I've come across so far except one. That's R3 tyres and no hp improvements, come and see it at Aussie Tuners. Give it a review if you like.

Powerwise maybe, but overall carwise, you couldn't be further from the truth. The platforms japanese cars are built on are just more balanced for performance driving in my opinion.

Id like you to find me cars that can set laps like the tuned Skyline and Evos can on any track. Ariel Atom doesn't count.

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

Powerwise maybe, but overall carwise, you couldn't be further from the truth. The platforms japanese cars are built on are just more balanced for performance driving in my opinion.

Id like you to find me cars that can set laps like the tuned Skyline and Evos can on any track. Ariel Atom doesn't count.

Key word "tuned" there, so my cars are allowed to be tuned as well? But lets talk stock vs stock, if you can show me one, just one N/A Japananese car in all history that would lap as quick as the Corvette Z06 C6 or HSV GTS, then I'll admit they're all they're cracked up to be. Key words "stock" and "naturally aspirated". Then I'll ask you forced induction, the Corvette ZR1 about to reach production- over 600hp, way over. One car, even forced induction that could ever consider beating that or even challenging that from Japan, even around a track.