Satanism, and you.

[Flame-returns]

He is trying to say, I think, that MAN wrote the Bible.

 

[Swift]

Why should I tell someone something if they never asked to hear it?

By the way, the Church of Satan has only been around since the late '60's. I don't see what evil works it might have orchestrated.

I did ask to hear it.

Very nice. Nice and profound. But alas, untrue.

This is untrue how?

 

[Flame-returns]

Untrue for all the reasons he outlined in earlier posts.

 

[PS]

What do you mean, what are you trying to say?

I meant the literal interpretation of the word before Christianity/Judahism was invented. Or any religion for that matter.

 

[PS]

I did ask to hear it.



This is untrue how?

Untrue because it is a vast assumption and just an old saying.

 

[ND4SPD]

Jeff's a friend of mine that moved into the boonies. Somewhere near a mini-put/driving range. Bastard. I have no idea where he is now, really.

Boonies?! You serious, get near my area, and there are houses everywhere being built, its a like a larg residential area now. It used to be the boonies like 3 years ago, but now its all houses!

 

[Swift]

Untrue because it is a vast assumption and just an old saying.

There is much truth in it. If you don't have any stance for anything, it's much easier to sway you to another position. how is that not true?

Your PM was appreciated but not enlightening as that was information that could easily be deduced by looking at your posts across the opinions forum.

 

[Pako]

He is trying to say, I think, that MAN wrote the Bible.

Oh. Man wrote the Bible, man also made up the word Satan and it's meanings. I'm even less sure now what point of that post was.

How is that enlightening any misconceptions? These are all things I already know.

I said that Satanism is centered on "SELF" and that it is a "selfish" religion. You say this is a misconception, show me how? If you have taken "selfishness" as a negative description, that is your take on it. Satanism preaches that "selfishness" should be honored and catered to.

 

[PS]

There is much truth in it. If you don't have any stance for anything, it's much easier to sway you to another position. how is that not true?

Your PM was appreciated but not enlightening as that was information that could easily be deduced by looking at your posts across the opinions forum.

Sorry I couldn't help you, I didn't know what you were looking for.

If you don't stand for anything, it simply means you've yet to make up your mind. It doesn't mean that you'll be any more inclined to go to one side if they present an offer. Not to me, anyway.

You noticed how I have not insulted or degraded your belief system or tried to site where people in history used it to do evil works?

I dare you to site where people used it to do evil works.

 

[PS]

Oh. Man wrote the Bible, man also made up the word Satan and it's meanings. I'm even less sure now what point of that post was.

How is that enlightening any misconceptions? These are all things I already know.

I said that Satanism is centered on "SELF" and that it is a "selfish" religion. You say this is a misconception, show me how? If you have taken "selfishness" as a negative description, that is your take on it. Satanism preaches that "selfishness" should be honored and catered to.

It preaches to cater to your desires, it doesn't mean you have to be selfish. If you desire to help someone, so be it. Desire and selfishness are different.

 

[Pako]

I meant the literal interpretation of the word before Christianity/Judahism was invented. Or any religion for that matter.

Can you fill in the blank? What does the word Satan mean to you? What did the word mean before any religion got a hold of it?

 

[Young_Warrior]

The whole religion theory was conjured up by a man who was very bored or either on some sort of hallucinations and turned into a myth in which people then took as true word and turned it into a money making scheme. If there is a god and god made us who made god. Simple as for me there is no god.

 

[Swift]

I dare you to site where people used it to do evil works.

I dare you to prove it hasn't.

 

[Flame-returns]

It's funny how this thread gets a post every 12 seconds and as of yet not a single person has responded to my question in the Computer board.

Anywaay, back on topic, I beleive that most of the Christian opinions are far too black and white, e.g:

"You are wriong, we are right"

"why?"

"because we are a force of good in the universe and you are a group of selfish s**ts that should of been smited along with the sodomites."

"what makes you say that?"

"The worlds most popular story book."

 

[PS]

I dare you to prove it hasn't.

How many times do I have to tell you-- you can't prove something has not happened! You have to prove it has! It's literally impossible to disprove something!

 

[Flame-returns]

I dare you to prove it hasn't.

I dare you to alienate yourself from the crusades.

 

[PS]

Can you fill in the blank? What does the word Satan mean to you? What did the word mean before any religion got a hold of it?

"Satan" was a term describing one's self; you.


It's hard to find though, I've only come across one really old book that had the original ethymology of the word, and only a couple internet sites. Too much of it has been jaded/glossed over with the advent of Christianity.

 

[Pako]

The Hebrew meaning of the word Satan is different from the English meaning of the word that is more widely accepted. The term "Satan" was used more as a description, than a name. Over the centuries, most people forget what the meaning is of the name is and only associate the name.

I have never heard of "satan" being used to describe one's self. Doesn't make it true or not, just that it is one more meaning to the word "Satan". In the context of Biblical times, it means, "an adversary, an enemy, and an accuser" as translated from the Hebrew word.

 

[Swift]

I dare you to alienate yourself from the crusades.

Was I King Richard? Did I order the crusades? Nope, was it done in the name of God? Unfortunately.

Oh, I have something. If Children are sacred because they don't "know" any better and adults aren't. Does that remind you of any biblical occorance near the beginning of the bible?

 

[PS]

Well it's probably not the first word that the Bible has taken out of context.

And I'm not sure which thread this link belongs to, but it presents and interesting point:

http://www.repentamerica.com/letterfromateist.html

 

[Sage]

I'm selfish, and my philosophy is Objectivism. No devils or Marilyn Manson here!

Seriously, satanism is not a philosophy based on selfishness (at least not rational selfishness), because I've yet to see an Objectivist who sees eye-to-eye with a satanist.

 

[PS]

What does Marilyn Manson have to do with this?

And I'm not a Satanist.

 

[Pako]

I'm selfish, and my philosophy is Objectivism. No devils or Marilyn Manson here!

Seriously, satanism is not a philosophy based on selfishness (at least not rational selfishness), because I've yet to see an Objectivist who sees eye-to-eye with a satanist.

Quite being so selfish.... sheesh. Share a little, give a little. BTW - I have never seen you be selfish.

 

[Sage]

What does Marilyn Manson have to do with this?

And I'm not a Satanist.

Um, so, why are you such a proponent for it?

Again, rational self-interest is Objectivism; after reading this thread for the third time, I still can't exactly figure out what Satanism is supposed to be.

[edit]:

BTW - I have never seen you be selfish.

By "selfish", I mean rational self-interest, not "gimme gimme at everyone's expense". So, um, yeah, that's what I mean. (And what danoff and Duke and ///M-Spec will mean if they use that word.)

 

[PS]

I am Satanic, that is, a lot of my beliefs are the same as those of the Church Of Satan, however I am not a follower and do not hold myself to any of those.

I am a proponent for it, but that wasn't the purpose of this thread. It was to clarify misconceptions and settle disputes over it that started in the Creation Vs. Evolution thread.

 

[Pako]

I am Satanic, that is, a lot of my beliefs are the same as those of the Church Of Satan, however I am not a follower and do not hold myself to any of those.

I am a proponent for it, but that wasn't the purpose of this thread. It was to clarify misconceptions and settle disputes over it that started in the Creation Vs. Evolution thread.

And what misconceptions have been clarified? And being "Satanic" aren't you supposed to only give your opinion when it is asked of you?

 

[Flame-returns]

Some not all of his beliefs are in keeping with the Church Of Satan, read his last post again.

 

[Pako]

Some not all of his beliefs are in keeping with the Church Of Satan, read his last post again.

Ahh....a Pseudo-Satanist.

 

[Flame-returns]

Toyota~4Runner

Ahh.... a soccer mom.

 

[PS]

And what misconceptions have been clarified? And being "Satanic" aren't you supposed to only give your opinion when it is asked of you?

You asked me to create this thread, did you not?