SCC - Ferrari 348 Challenge Series - Series Complete - Results Posted!

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Hi guys! Well, many of you might have noticed me on-line this weekend and I'm sorry if any of you sent me race invites which I didn't respond to. The truth is, I was visiting an old school friend of mine (with the family) and brought the PS3 with me. So if you saw me logged in, it wasn't actually me but my friend and/or his kids. I haven't played SCC since last Wednesday. I hope I'm not off the 1st page of the leaderboard by now... :crazy:


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No you're still the 1st of the humans...:dopey:

BTW I discovered why I wasn't able (yet:dunce: )to drop into the 58's


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there are Terrorists in this track:eek:
 
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No you're still the 1st of the humans...:dopey:

BTW I discovered why I wasn't able (yet:dunce: )to drop into the 58's


there are Terrorists in this track:eek:

:lol::lol::lol:

THAT's why you're not in the 1:58's! NO READING WHILE DRIVING. :lol:

Yes, Jeff in spite of my abortive attempts last weekend to jump over you on the Leaderboard you're still at number 6 last time I checked. :)
 
I don't know about a tuning bug, but is anyone else encountering this: although there are a few screens I can activate in the leaderboards section, I can't access any of the 348 Challenge screens, & if I keep trying, I eventually get a frozen screen & have to "force-quit" the game?

I didn't get an answer to this. Is anyone else having this problem? I also found that last night I couldn't enter the tuning screen. This is starting to get me worried that I might have a game-save corruption problem. Any suggestions anyone?

Biggles, I strongly suggest that you make a back-up of your system just in case. Today I was planning to do some practice. First I went to see the leaderboards, but they got stuck. I had the same screen freeze as you. Leaderboard was empty and I couldn't back up. I had to shutdown the game with long press of PS-button. I actually thought, that "hey, this is what Biggles described." Then I re-launched the game and hoped for better luck. Well, I for sure didn't have a better luck. I went to leaderboards again and this time the game froze totally and console shut down with blinking red light. When I started it again, I saw a quick blink of yellow light. YLOD...

I guess it's quite obvious, that I'm not taking part in the next event... :banghead:
 
Biggles, I strongly suggest that you make a back-up of your system just in case. Today I was planning to do some practice. First I went to see the leaderboards, but they got stuck. I had the same screen freeze as you. Leaderboard was empty and I couldn't back up. I had to shutdown the game with long press of PS-button. I actually thought, that "hey, this is what Biggles described." Then I re-launched the game and hoped for better luck. Well, I for sure didn't have a better luck. I went to leaderboards again and this time the game froze totally and console shut down with blinking red light. When I started it again, I saw a quick blink of yellow light. YLOD...

I guess it's quite obvious, that I'm not taking part in the next event... :banghead:

Man what a bad luck Lassi:indiff:
The most annoying thing in this game are these bugs who actually kind of spoil all the fun one can have playing it:tdown:
I hope your PS3 was still on a valid warranty....
 
Biggles, I strongly suggest that you make a back-up of your system just in case. Today I was planning to do some practice. First I went to see the leaderboards, but they got stuck. I had the same screen freeze as you. Leaderboard was empty and I couldn't back up. I had to shutdown the game with long press of PS-button. I actually thought, that "hey, this is what Biggles described." Then I re-launched the game and hoped for better luck. Well, I for sure didn't have a better luck. I went to leaderboards again and this time the game froze totally and console shut down with blinking red light. When I started it again, I saw a quick blink of yellow light. YLOD...

I guess it's quite obvious, that I'm not taking part in the next event... :banghead:

:ouch: Oh boy...I'm really sorry to hear this. How old is your PS3 Vompatti? Is it one of the first generation? I have a fat PS3 myself but it's, I think 2nd or 3rd generation with the 80GB HD and 65-nm processor. And it's in a cool basement so it never seems to run hot. I have my game saves on a thumb drive but I'm thinking it's probably best if I would do a complete back-up as stories like this make me nervous.

And Biggles, Vompatti's story should probably give you food for thought. I doubt SCC caused the problem but it may be a sign that your PS3 is slowly dying. YOU should probably consider (1) a complete back up with a cheap external USB HD and (2) write down all your accounts and passwords. :indiff:
 
That's really bad news vompatti! :ouch: Did you contact Sony already?


PS - My advice to all PS3 owners. Keeping the PS3 in a cool area (like Jeff's basement) is of course good for its "health". But I suggest everyone to do some maintenance also. By this I only mean: use your vacuum cleaner to keep the dust OUTSIDE (or bring it back, if it already got inside). I did a clean up like this the other day and I collected a lot of dust.

btw, my PS3 is a 40 GB fatty, almost 3 years-old. Always kept in a cool place, no problems to report so far. But, as Jeff, hearing these YLOD reports all around gets me nervous too ... :crazy:
 
It's from October 2007, 40GB fat. So there's no official warranty left. But here in Nordic countries it's Nordisk Film that handles Playstation's marketing, distributing, selling, warranty etc, not Sony itself. I don't know what's the official lining from Sony in these "out of warranty" break downs, but at least in here they have fixed/replaced units out of warranty in YLOD cases. It could be due to fairly good "customer protection" in Finland (don't know if this is the case in other Nordic countries), it involves some paperwork but there is a chance to get it fixed/replaced. So I did contact NF already and I'm waiting for a reply. They will probably advice me to do a reclamation on the product and send it to them. So there is hope, but we'll see how things will go. No matter what the case is, I'm going to lose all of my save data that I didn't back up. Luckily my last back up is from April, so I'm not losing everything.

I agree with jjaisli, that I doubt that SCC did cause this, it's just that it did "show" the problem, that's why I think Biggles definitely should do a back up asap, just in case. And others too. Because I've used my PS3 in a place where it has nice amount of fresh air and I've vacuumed it every now and then. So I haven't done anything wrong to cause this, it just decided to die. It didn't give any warning either. So, start backing up your systems.
 
My PS3 got the YLOD a week ago and I bought a new one since mine was 3 years old by then and I changed the Harddrive und the thermal paste and cleaned the inside a couple of times. You can't imagine how much dust the PS3 sucks over the time.
I had a backup but was not able to restore everything because the new PS3 "recognized" the backup was from another system. All the games that I've downloaded from the PSN I had to redownload.
For that reason I think its enough to only back up your game save data to usb stick.
The bad thing is that the SCC disk was in the Drive so I had to put the PS3 apart to get the disk out. Many damn small screws:scared:
 
My PS3 got the YLOD a week ago and I bought a new one since mine was 3 years old by then and I changed the Harddrive und the thermal paste and cleaned the inside a couple of times. You can't imagine how much dust the PS3 sucks over the time.
I had a backup but was not able to restore everything because the new PS3 "recognized" the backup was from another system. All the games that I've downloaded from the PSN I had to redownload.
For that reason I think its enough to only back up your game save data to usb stick.
The bad thing is that the SCC disk was in the Drive so I had to put the PS3 apart to get the disk out. Many damn small screws:scared:

i have the first gen ps3, 60gb, and it has got ylod 4 times now. i have fixed it every time. if i want a replacement from sony, its £131. it get easy to fix it once you've done it a few times, only takes 45 minutes -1 hour. soryy to hear about your ps3 vompatti
 
My PS3 is a 40 GB - about 3 years old. I sent it to Sony almost exactly a year ago with the YLOD. Cost $158 CDN to fix it (which they did VERY quickly), however, the repair only comes with a 90 day guarantee which is BS as far as I'm concerned. Probably a better investment to buy a new one. I'm thinking it would make sense to get an extended warranty from the store, since the YLOD seems like an inevitability. Does anyone know if the slims are proving more reliable?

Sony seems to have slipped this one through - maybe not as serious a problem as the 360s, but at least M$ replaced many of their defective units rather than charging $150 every year. :mad:

I'll have to do a check with some other games to see if there's a problem there too. It could be my PS3 is just getting fried from my trying to match those @#*#! SCC leaderboard times. :grumpy:
 
Jeez, you're making me nervous. :nervous: My PS3 is the FAT 40GB job. I got it in 2006 and have yet to have a problem with it. (Is that some kind of record or what!) I do keep it in my basement, but I've only once bothered to vacuum it. It sounds like I'd better start saving for a new one though as apparently I'm already on the outside of the curve as far as lifespan.

Vompatti, I'm very sorry to hear you'll be missing this weekend. (In spite of the fact that, that will probably mean one less guy finishing ahead of me.:lol: ) I hope you'll be back in business in time for the 355 Challenge series.
 
it get easy to fix it once you've done it a few times, only takes 45 minutes -1 hour.

How do you fix it? Tips would be appreciated.
My old one is also the good old 60 GB modell and I wanted to try to repair it when I have some time.

The slim PS3 looks really cheep and has no card reader. Its "a bit" more quiet though.

SCC still forces the slim model to restart sometimes when quitting the game. With the old one my trick was to go to the leaderboards first, the to main menu. That worked almost 90% of the time.
 
How do you fix it? Tips would be appreciated.
My old one is also the good old 60 GB modell and I wanted to try to repair it when I have some time.

I had never heard of YLOD before. It typically seems to be a fairly serious hardware problem. The PS3 has a monster quad-core processor, to my knowledge, although I don't believe something should be on the market if it can overheat in routine situations so easily.

It's amazing not only that Sony charge stupid money to fix something which may not be there if they designed it properly, but that people are actually selling their own DIY guide to (let users attempt to) fix the YLOD thing. But I mean, if the CPU or motherboard is fried, you won't get very far.

Surely the PS3 has sensors to detect high temperature levels. So in the most hopeful case, the PS3 would shut itself down to protect itself, allowing the user to vacuum and clean out any dust or obstruction, and hopefully resolving the problem. But unfortunately it seems the system is prepared to damage itself before this.

If it happened to my machine, I'd take it to an experienced electronics person who could do a few checks on it and see if anything can be done. You can possibly remove the disk from the PS3 and access the data some other way (maybe in a new machine - although be sure about it before trying that one).

The main problem I have with all this is that it's in Sony's interest not to make a bullet proof system. Some people will say I'm being a bit naive, but a further serious question I have is why is there no OS recovery or factory reset ability with the PS3 system? If you're updating the OS version and lets say a power cut happens, you're stuffed! It's just not acceptable. A simple PS3 OS recovery disc included with the package would give users that required backup and security.

And while I'm swinging some left-hooks here, I might as well mention the recent PS3 OS update; it disabled the ability to install an alternative OS on the PS3 system, and people with existing OS had to remove it. The condition was if you did not update the OS, you would not be able to access the PSN. Ridiculous.
 
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The problem I had was a "disc reader" problem, which from what I understand is a pretty common issue & is fairly easy to repair if you have the experience & the parts. It seems completely unjustifiable for Sony to charge $150 (probably more in Euros) to fix this routine & known problem. I'm not sure if the problem I'm encountering now is the same problem.

(I've never had any problems with my Macs - I have a 8 year-old tower, a 6 year old Power Book & a 5 year old iMac that still run perfectly - other than obsolescence.)
 
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I had never heard of YLOD before. It typically seems to be a fairly serious hardware problem. The PS3 has a monster quad-core processor, to my knowledge, although I don't believe something should be on the market if it can overheat in routine situations so easily.

From what I understand, the problem seems to occur mainly in both the original and 2nd generation/SKU PS3 models which were produced between 2006 and early 2008. Models from early 2008 forward introduced a newer 65nm core processor as opposed to the original 90nm core and therefore consumed less power and generated less heat, resulting in fewer failures. It remains to be seen if the 2008 and forward models and of course the newer slim models, which now have a 45nm core processor, will be more relaible over time. One would certainly assume so. But perhaps in 2012, we'll find slims dropping all over the place.

I feel I should make one point to counter this. A friend of mine managed to get his hands on one of the first batch of PS3s sold in the US (Fall of 2006). He uses it regularly and it's still going strong, so there's certainly hope that the problem is not as wide spread as it seems to be. But at the time, he paid >$700 for his PS3. I paid $399 for mine, 22 months ago. (Actually, it was a bit less with an Amazon instant coupon. :sly:) The slim is now $299 and there are rumors floating of another price drop to $249 sometime this fall. If it does, I may actually consider just selling mine and buying a new slim. At that price point, it seems to be a safer bet.


There's a similar thing with Apple; a friend uses the term "Apple Timer", as Apple products all seem to break so needlessly after some period.

Sorry, but I have to call Bull:censored:! on this one. I'm going to morph into an Apple fan boy here but I have to say it. I've been a Mac user since the late 80s and have owned nearly a dozen in the last 22 years. I also worked as an IT professional in a mixed platform enviornment for several years in the late 90s and have a lot of experience with PCs and Macs.

Personal experiencing can of course vary. And if your friend has had bad luck, well, it may be just that. I have a 1986 Mac SE that still boots up reliably with OS 6.1. Correct me if I'm wrong, Alan but I think that computer is older than you are. Over the last 10~12 years, there's been a trend from Apple to standardize certain components (moving from SCSI Hard drives to IDE, than ATA than SATA, ADP ports to USB, NuBus architecture to PCI and finally from PowerPC processors to Intel). And as such, they are no more or no less reliable than your average, top dollar PC. However, I've never known Apple to use sub-standard peripherals and from my years of experience, with a handful of known exceptions, their computers have been generally bullet proof. I know there's a lot of 'sour grapes' among the Irish after Apple shut the plant in Cork. ;) But in any event, I don't want to drag this too far off topic. :D
 
Vompatti, I'm very sorry to hear you'll be missing this weekend. (In spite of the fact that, that will probably mean one less guy finishing ahead of me.:lol: ) I hope you'll be back in business in time for the 355 Challenge series.

You know what was my first thought? Well okay, second thought, first thought is censored :lol: Second thought was "where can I lend a PS3 for Sunday?". Third was that what if I buy a slim. But as the lower consumption slims are on their way and rumored price cut, I decided to hold myself. If I can't get my unit fixed or replaced without cost, then I'll try to fix it myself and if that won't work I'll wait until the "new" slims arrive. To be honest, I think that at some point I'm going to buy a slim in to our household no matter how this ends. We do use PS3 a lot, gaming, movies, music, etc. So it wouldn't hurt to have a back-up unit for these kind of circumstances and it would allow for lan-gaming too! (and of course if I'll have a separate room for a rig some day, I can bolt one unit into that and leave the other into living room).

Surely the PS3 has sensors to detect high temperature levels. So in the most hopeful case, the PS3 would shut itself down to protect itself, allowing the user to vacuum and clean out any dust or obstruction, and hopefully resolving the problem. But unfortunately it seems the system is prepared to damage itself before this.

This is not the case in many YLOD's, for example my unit always ran very cool. And now it died maybe 5 min after I had put it on. Before that, we had watch something from it the day before. It was the first gaming done for about 48h and it was the first time today that I started it. In fact if I would need to make a guess, I'd say that in my PS3 it's the disk that broke down. I just don't have a spare to test it.

You can possibly remove the disk from the PS3 and access the data some other way (maybe in a new machine - although be sure about it before trying that one).

If I've understood correctly, you can only access the data via that specific PS3, it's not possible to put the disk into another (or into PC) and read/copy/save the data. So in most cases, all data without back-up are lost, unless you fix the unit yourself. If you are moving the backed data into another unit, you can't get copy-protected data into it either. That kind of blows, I think I have some copy-protected save data too.
 
How to recover a disk left inside an YLODed PS3:





How to repair an YLODed PS3 Part 1 of 2
(don't try this at home LOL)




Ok, I saw the first YT clip and it looks so simple I got suspicious. Then I started watching the second clip and it looks so difficult I got bored and gave up on minute 2 (and there's a part 2 for this somewhere LOL).

I guess the fat PS3 is doomed no matter what we do, although some people are more lucky than others and their consoles just last longer for no apparent reason.


PS - About Macs ... only problem I ever had with them was feeling sorry for sending to the recycle bin (the real one, not the PC one) perfectly working 10 to 15 year old computers. Still have a SE from the late 80's, a Classic II, a color (yay! :D ) LC, a Macintosh Performa all from the nineties, two iBooks and one iMac from last decade. Nowadays using PCs unfortunately ... but hey, I can play GP Legends and GTR EVolution on these ... :dopey:

Back to topic. Tomorrow we have a holiday here in Portugal so I will try to go back to SCC playing. Hope to meet some of you playing also :)
 
Wow, I should really read over my sweeping statements before posting.

I wasn't referring to the majority of Apple products. Actually I wasn't giving my personal opinion at all! I think my partner and her friends in Japan were disgruntled with their iPods and like devices braking so easily. They use the term "Apple Timer" or something, as they felt they lasted a certain period of time (half jokingly). I'd say it's half just the fragility of those iPods, and half just a myth. I've had my iPod for 3 years and it's still like new.
 
Racing the DBR9 isn't it? I recently noticed a video from one of TRE races ... the racing was a bit rough but sure was an entertaining clip to watch ... much like the Turkish GP! :D


PS - Here, got it again. Easy to get it on YT, just type "Racing Elite SCC"

[YOUTUBEHD]AD-8nV7xvEE[/YOUTUBEHD]
 
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LOL! Turner, what the hell are you guys doing over there? :lol: Racing or demolition derby?

Well, it's up to you...but I'd say a domain name change might be in order. :D
 
Well they say all advertising was good advertising :nervous:. Shame i couldn't get the chat on there as well because it was a rather funny race with alot of pee taking. Also in are defense i think it was the first race we had done for a while, well it was mine anyway :)
 
If they have fixed the problem, you'd be much better off replacing your old defective PS3 with a new one rather than repairing it. Either way, Sony wins. :grumpy: Really there ought to be a class-action law suit against Sony to compel then to fix defective PS3s, either for free, or for a minimal amount.
 
...to bad we don't know a blood sucking attorney who could help us out... ;)
 
...to bad we don't know a blood sucking attorney who could help us out... ;)

Mário will correct me if I'm wrong...but I don't think we have class actions in the Portuguese Legal System:nervous:
 
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