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Supercar Challenge - Old Timer Event - Sunday, December 06th, 2009 - 20:00 Hr GMT featuring the 1971 Ferrari 365GTB/4 Daytona
Update - November 26th - Alright, let's get this party started.
The 5th event in the Classic Series features the GT class winning 1971 Ferrari 365 GTB/4. This car was nicknamed "Daytona" to celebrate the 1967, 1-2-3 victory at Daytona by the F330 P4. Thanks to fellow forum members, there's a wealth of information posted about this car below and I encourage everybody to have a look.
The rules and format will carry over from previous event including running these races in a private lobby. I was initially reluctant to close these events off to the general public, as part of my goal with these Old Timer races is to introduce some of the older, less used cars to Supercar Challenge community. But aside from the obvious punters we endured in round 3, I began to realize that having people who wander into these events, completely unprepared, can become a menace to those who worked hard the whole week to learn the tracks and practice their lap times. And if this next event garners the same level of interest as the 330 P4 event, there would be no room left for journeyman racers.
I will open a lobby under my PSN ID: jjaisli approximately 5~10 minutes before the event starts and will first send race invites to those on my buddy list who have raced in the Old Timer series in the past. If anybody new would like to join, provided there's space in the lobby, you're more than welecome. Just send me a PSN message and I'll send you an invite in return.
After some consideration, I've decided to change the points system as follows:
1st place: 25 points
2nd place: 20 points
3rd place: 16 points
4th place: 13 points
5th place: 11 points
6th place: 10 points
7th place: 9 points
8th place: 8 points
9th place: 7 points
10th place: 6 points
11th place: 5 points
12th place: 4 points
13th place: 3 points
14th place: 2 points
15th place: 1 point
With an additional 1 point going to the fastest lap holder
LOBBY CONDITIONS
TC: Off
ABS: Off
SC: Off
RL: Off
Transmission: Automatic (which will allow you to choose manual, semi or full auto)
Collisons: Off after penalty
Penalties: Unlmited
Grid Order: Random
- I encourage the use of headsets, although to be realistic, we know headsets don't work very well when more than 4-5 people are using them at the same time. And if we really have a large lobby, I would like to ask everybody to turn off their headsets completely once the race gets started as it will save bandwidth. Once back in the lobby, feel free to use the mics again.
- If you have already unlocked and purchased the 365 GTB/4, you're free to create your own unique livery. But be sure to check THIS POST before doing so. if you don't have this car unlocked, the game allows you to select any one of about a dozen pre-created liveries. Selecting a different livery is helpful to distinguish different cars, especially for those of us who turn off the annoying ID flags.
- Between each event there will be a 2-3 minute break, longer if needed or requested.
- As we know all too well, this game does have a rather annoying bug, where another car may appear to push you off the road, and seem to be almost 'stuck' to your car. IF this should happen, please keep in mind the person that appears to be doing the pushing, is likely up the road, driving into the distance, and in all likelihood, it was not done on purpose. Eutechnyx is working on the problem (Details can be found here: http://forums.eutechnyx.com/index.php/topic,1366.0.html I'm hopeful this patch will be released before the event starts and we'll have improved conditions.
- I will write down times, fastest, laps etc after each event. But please keep track of your own times, just in case. I'll post the results either later that night or the following morning.
A) Practice Session : Paul Ricard - 3 Laps - Dry - Random Grid
As has become tradition, the first 3-lap race is considered a 'warm-up' round to get used to the car, it's braking and handling abilties, and the sensation racing against a lobby full of other cars. Points won't count so don't sweat it. I've made my dislike for Paul Ricard fairly well known in this forum. But I respect that others might not completely despise it quite to the same extent as I do. So I'll include it in this event. For once. But I just can't bring myself to let it count for points. So it will be practice only. For those who become too ill to continue with the rest of the event after practicing on this monstrosity, I offer my apologies and sympathy.
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1) Race No 1 : Silverstone - 9 Laps - Dry - Random Grid
The British Grand Prix at Silverstone may (or may not) be gone but the track is still there in all it's glory. Silverstone is track where I've just never had a good pace. But many people love it and consider it among their favorites.
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2) Race No. 2 : Hockenheim - 15 Laps - WET - Random Grid
For those of you worried about running wide at the final complex, it may just happen anyway. This car can be a handful in the wet, as those who made it to round 3 in the ROC know full well. Stay calm, stay cool, stay focused.
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3) Race No. 3 : Infineon - 9 Laps - Dry - Random Grid
Just as with Silverstone, I've never had a great pace around Infineon. But it's a challenging track and just like Misano or Mont Tremblant, there's a high price to pay for falling off the track. Thank goodness we're racing a stable and predictable car.
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4) Race No. 4 : Vallelunga - 15 Laps - Dry - Random Grid
Vallelunga is a track that probably doesn't earn the credit it deserves. It has a wonderful flow and putting in a good time is more challenging that it first seems. I was reluctant to include this track since this same car/track combo appeared in round 3 of the ROC. But this time it's dry. And I've been itching to have a go since leaving the ROC at round 2.
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I would also like to make a general comment after the results of the F330 P4 event. We all know lag issues and bugs caused havoc, especially at Spa. And as a result, clean racing is a bit of a shot in the dark. But in general terms, keep one rule in mind for this event. Your number one goal, your priority above all else, should be NOT to hit other cars. And I would like everybody who intends to participate to make a conscious effort in this regard. In smaller lobbies, I encourage close racing, rubbing, side by side, hard running. But combined with the lousy prediction code and nearly 16 cars in the lobby, this kind of racing can quickly degenerate into a destruction derby. Let's do our best to keep things clean and the event will be better for everybody.
I hope to see everybody from the previous events back on the 6th!
Update - November 26th - Alright, let's get this party started.
The 5th event in the Classic Series features the GT class winning 1971 Ferrari 365 GTB/4. This car was nicknamed "Daytona" to celebrate the 1967, 1-2-3 victory at Daytona by the F330 P4. Thanks to fellow forum members, there's a wealth of information posted about this car below and I encourage everybody to have a look.
The rules and format will carry over from previous event including running these races in a private lobby. I was initially reluctant to close these events off to the general public, as part of my goal with these Old Timer races is to introduce some of the older, less used cars to Supercar Challenge community. But aside from the obvious punters we endured in round 3, I began to realize that having people who wander into these events, completely unprepared, can become a menace to those who worked hard the whole week to learn the tracks and practice their lap times. And if this next event garners the same level of interest as the 330 P4 event, there would be no room left for journeyman racers.
I will open a lobby under my PSN ID: jjaisli approximately 5~10 minutes before the event starts and will first send race invites to those on my buddy list who have raced in the Old Timer series in the past. If anybody new would like to join, provided there's space in the lobby, you're more than welecome. Just send me a PSN message and I'll send you an invite in return.
After some consideration, I've decided to change the points system as follows:
1st place: 25 points
2nd place: 20 points
3rd place: 16 points
4th place: 13 points
5th place: 11 points
6th place: 10 points
7th place: 9 points
8th place: 8 points
9th place: 7 points
10th place: 6 points
11th place: 5 points
12th place: 4 points
13th place: 3 points
14th place: 2 points
15th place: 1 point
With an additional 1 point going to the fastest lap holder
LOBBY CONDITIONS
TC: Off
ABS: Off
SC: Off
RL: Off
Transmission: Automatic (which will allow you to choose manual, semi or full auto)
Collisons: Off after penalty
Penalties: Unlmited
Grid Order: Random
- I encourage the use of headsets, although to be realistic, we know headsets don't work very well when more than 4-5 people are using them at the same time. And if we really have a large lobby, I would like to ask everybody to turn off their headsets completely once the race gets started as it will save bandwidth. Once back in the lobby, feel free to use the mics again.
- If you have already unlocked and purchased the 365 GTB/4, you're free to create your own unique livery. But be sure to check THIS POST before doing so. if you don't have this car unlocked, the game allows you to select any one of about a dozen pre-created liveries. Selecting a different livery is helpful to distinguish different cars, especially for those of us who turn off the annoying ID flags.
- Between each event there will be a 2-3 minute break, longer if needed or requested.
- As we know all too well, this game does have a rather annoying bug, where another car may appear to push you off the road, and seem to be almost 'stuck' to your car. IF this should happen, please keep in mind the person that appears to be doing the pushing, is likely up the road, driving into the distance, and in all likelihood, it was not done on purpose. Eutechnyx is working on the problem (Details can be found here: http://forums.eutechnyx.com/index.php/topic,1366.0.html I'm hopeful this patch will be released before the event starts and we'll have improved conditions.
- I will write down times, fastest, laps etc after each event. But please keep track of your own times, just in case. I'll post the results either later that night or the following morning.
A) Practice Session : Paul Ricard - 3 Laps - Dry - Random Grid
As has become tradition, the first 3-lap race is considered a 'warm-up' round to get used to the car, it's braking and handling abilties, and the sensation racing against a lobby full of other cars. Points won't count so don't sweat it. I've made my dislike for Paul Ricard fairly well known in this forum. But I respect that others might not completely despise it quite to the same extent as I do. So I'll include it in this event. For once. But I just can't bring myself to let it count for points. So it will be practice only. For those who become too ill to continue with the rest of the event after practicing on this monstrosity, I offer my apologies and sympathy.
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1) Race No 1 : Silverstone - 9 Laps - Dry - Random Grid
The British Grand Prix at Silverstone may (or may not) be gone but the track is still there in all it's glory. Silverstone is track where I've just never had a good pace. But many people love it and consider it among their favorites.
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2) Race No. 2 : Hockenheim - 15 Laps - WET - Random Grid
For those of you worried about running wide at the final complex, it may just happen anyway. This car can be a handful in the wet, as those who made it to round 3 in the ROC know full well. Stay calm, stay cool, stay focused.
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3) Race No. 3 : Infineon - 9 Laps - Dry - Random Grid
Just as with Silverstone, I've never had a great pace around Infineon. But it's a challenging track and just like Misano or Mont Tremblant, there's a high price to pay for falling off the track. Thank goodness we're racing a stable and predictable car.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4) Race No. 4 : Vallelunga - 15 Laps - Dry - Random Grid
Vallelunga is a track that probably doesn't earn the credit it deserves. It has a wonderful flow and putting in a good time is more challenging that it first seems. I was reluctant to include this track since this same car/track combo appeared in round 3 of the ROC. But this time it's dry. And I've been itching to have a go since leaving the ROC at round 2.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I would also like to make a general comment after the results of the F330 P4 event. We all know lag issues and bugs caused havoc, especially at Spa. And as a result, clean racing is a bit of a shot in the dark. But in general terms, keep one rule in mind for this event. Your number one goal, your priority above all else, should be NOT to hit other cars. And I would like everybody who intends to participate to make a conscious effort in this regard. In smaller lobbies, I encourage close racing, rubbing, side by side, hard running. But combined with the lousy prediction code and nearly 16 cars in the lobby, this kind of racing can quickly degenerate into a destruction derby. Let's do our best to keep things clean and the event will be better for everybody.
I hope to see everybody from the previous events back on the 6th!
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