Seasonal Event # 3

[Max_DC]

Wow, another aspect of the game is ruined. What's next ? Free money and free xp for as loging in bonus ?

You know I'm not the kind of guy who needs games as hard as those from SNES / Mega Drive ( Genesis ) times without a saving option and 5 lives for the whole game, but there has to be some motivation. I just won 2.5 mio credits and a lot of xp and I already was first in the 2nd or 3rd lap.

I mean after boring myself through the last 3 events I'll head back to COD Black Ops. And you know what, in mp the best get the kills, get the points. If you suck, you'll suffer. Then you either try to get better or you cry yourself to bed after an evening of 0.5 to 0.1 kill death ratios. I don't hear anybody complaining, well how many copies did they sell already ? 15 to 20 mio ?

I didn't touch a single A Spec race yet in GT5, all I did was licences, special events and seasonal events ( lv 25 atm ) because they were motivating.

I mean isn't it good enough to get some xp and a little money out of these seasonal events when you suck at GT ? Does every loser have to have everything in gold and drown in money ? What society do we live in ? Seriously, what happend to the japanese hardcore games ?

The seasonal events were perfect as they were, never change a running system, I hope PD changes the rules back to normal with the next set of seasonal events. I mean, they actually did change a lot in the past few weeks, so I'm not giving up hope so far.

And no, I don't like torturing myself by setting up my own challenges - I paid for a game to do it for me. It's called motivation. Well next month we'll get Test Drive Unlimited 2. The prequel was awesome, no real driving simulator but a motivating GAME.

 

[Jacob6875]

Wow, another aspect of the game is ruined. What's next ? Free money and free xp for as loging in bonus ?

You know I'm not the kind of guy who needs games as hard as those from SNES / Mega Drive ( Genesis ) times without a saving option and 5 lives for the whole game, but there has to be some motivation. I just won 2.5 mio credits and a lot of xp and I already was first in the 2nd or 3rd lap.

I mean after boring myself through the last 3 events I'll head back to COD Black Ops. And you know what, in mp the best get the kills, get the points. If you suck, you'll suffer. Then you either try to get better or you cry yourself to bed after an evening of 0.5 to 0.1 kill death ratios. I don't hear anybody complaining, well how many copies did they sell already ? 15 to 20 mio ?

I didn't touch a single A Spec race yet in GT5, all I did was licences, special events and seasonal events ( lv 25 atm ) because they were motivating.

I mean isn't it good enough to get some xp and a little money out of these seasonal events when you suck at GT ? Does every loser have to have everything in gold and drown in money ? What society do we live in ? Seriously, what happend to the japanese hardcore games ?

The seasonal events were perfect as they were, never change a running system, I hope PD changes the rules back to normal with the next set of seasonal events. I mean, they actually did change a lot in the past few weeks, so I'm not giving up hope so far.

And no, I don't like torturing myself by setting up my own challenges - I paid for a game to do it for me. It's called motivation. Well next month we'll get Test Drive Unlimited 2. The prequel was awesome, no real driving simulator but a motivating GAME.

Since you are so super amazing that all of this "casual single player content" is beneath you. Why don't you race online or get first in the time trial leader boards.

 

[DanDiplo]

I would bet anything that the reason PD removed the restrictions is to enable everyone to easily get more XP and money in order to silence the people who constantly whine about having to "grind". It's ironic, of course, that the very same people are the first to complain about not having restrictions...

"Be careful what you set your heart upon – for it will surely be yours."
James Baldwin

 

[nickg07]

Well arguably season 1 and 2 were wrong in terms of payout and XP. You could go from level 1 to 22 easily maybe 23 just for winning 10 races.

And earn about 4 million too.

Its totally too much compared to a spec mode. Instead of fast tracking people via season events why not just fix a spec with more XP and credits?

These make a mockery of the level system and defunct the need to even consider international license.

And Jacob what kind of butt hurt response is that? Why not play online? Many reasons chiefly no single online race nets you a million does it?

Time trial? Boring. No money.

People want monies buy more cars tt and online detract from buying new cars.

 

[StevenDunn99]

to silence the people who constantly whine about having to "grind". It's ironic, of course, that the very same people are the first to complain about not having restrictions...

Except that a lot of those who moan are grinding AFTER golding everything.

I repeat, take them for what they are, #3 is for casual gamers and hopefully in #4 (like #1 & #2) there will be something for more experienced GT players.

 

[JJ72]

If this is their way to fix the exp. and money grind then they are creating another problem while fixing it, the heart of the problem is with the exp system and its astronomical requirement in exp when you hit the upper levels, and that is something seasonal event alone can't fix (it does really little when you hit lvl 33+).

I see the seasonal event as a real challenging part of the game play, offering an experience not found in A-spec, there is enough opportunity to overpower the race in A-spec so I hope seasonal race remains a real challenge.

You can get a million in an hour B-specing Dream Race, so money isn't the biggest shortage, however for me gameplay is.

 

[Max_DC]

Since you are so super amazing that all of this "casual single player content" is beneath you. Why don't you race online or get first in the time trial leader boards.

Well the funny thing is, I am not that super amazing
I have 40 gold and 20 silver licences, and I earned them. I am not the best driver out there and yet I did gold on every seasonal event. Why ? Because it was fair. All you had to do was optimize your car within these thin regulations and drive a decent race. No need to be a worldclass driver. Just some practice.

GT2 was the best GT in terms of motivation. HP restrictions in every race.

I don't have a problem with games that also work for casual players. I infact think that a modern game has to have that.

BUT there has to remain a difference. Significantely omre money & more xp for better players or players who try harder if you want to put it that way. A casual player paid for the game just as the hardcore player, so he should be able to see and play everything. But taht doesn't mean that he has to swim in money, xp and gold trophies because that's a spit in the face for hardcore players.
Coming back to my COD example : that's like giving bad players an aimbot. That just doesn't make sense.

 

[Supercheyenne]

Coming back to my COD example : that's like giving bad players an aimbot. That just doesn't make sense.

COD has about 5 difficulty settings in single player. You're comparing Multiplayer COD to Singleplayer GT. Apples and Oranges as they say.

Just run the Prius challenge with a completely stock car (not even an oil change) and get back to us when you've won.

 

[Pezzarinho17]

Don't understand people complaining, you make GT your own challenge... I admit I REALLY struggled with the first sets of seasonal races, gave them about 2 goes each and then moved on, accepting I'm not good enough but glad for the money and exp I got with 5th or whatever I managed....

You can still have that challenge... It just means that depending on money situation and time, I and others can set a less frustrating goal. I'll probably still try with everything stock, just to confirm how bad I am, but then have the option of simplifying my challenge without blowing 4 hours finding third is definitely the best I can achieve...

I like the fact I won't have to buy duplicate cars now as well, it annoys me having 2 cars the same in my garage...

 

[Max_DC]

COD has about 5 difficulty settings in single player. You're comparing Multiplayer COD to Singleplayer GT. Apples and Oranges as they say.

Just run the Prius challenge with a completely stock car (not even an oil change) and get back to us when you've won.

Well I beat COD single player on veteran. Boy did I hate the last 140 m in that tunnel in that rocket plant. I needed almost an hour for these last 140 m. But I did it and I got an achievment for it. And those who couldn't do it, didn't get it.
This change of rules is like giving that achievment to everybody, also to those who didn't earn and therefor deserve it.

I'm not among the best GT players out there ( in fact I had to max outt he cars within the regulation in some events including skid recovery in order to win the race by a small margin, RX7 and Ford Focus race for example ) and I don't need a worthless gold trophy in a game to boost my self-confidence. But I want a motivating game that gives me a reward for doing sth better than the average joe. How can you not understand that ?

 

[CeeJay]

Cool, some easy money and XP, thanks PD!! 👍

 

[Supercheyenne]

But I want a motivating game that gives me a reward for doing sth better than the average joe. How can you not understand that ?

And the average joe wants to get some gold medals once in awhile too!

Let "average joe" have 1 week, you got the first two.

 

[nickg07]

Pezzarinho 17
You tried twice and gave up?

What's the point in that? How about test and develop your skills till you can do them or at least come close?

I'd say I did the gtr one what 30 to 50 times at least.

This is the problem, pd trying to cater to drop outs who don't even try.

Supercheyene I think my mum could gold these events.

Wheres the incentive to work harder if they put it on a platter for you.
All the previous events easy to gold with SFR simple as.

 

[Pezzarinho17]

reading it wrong, yeh I gave it about 2 goes but I don't find it fun sitting and frustrating myself with false hope that I am good enough to do it... I'm just not. The first series I got myself at least silver in all of them, and the GT-R challenge I tried again and again because I was close to gold. Second series I struggled more (except Mustang at Laguna), things like the mini race just really annoyed me but I took 5th place and the still insane amount of credit and exp gained from that and left.

Main thing is that I'm enjoying the game my way which at the moment is not wasting the couple of hours I get a night on finishing 5 seconds behind 4th rather than 15 seconds behind 4th... And that doesn't mean you should enjoy this game the same way as me, I deeply respect those that have golded all of these challenges but its not what I am after myself.

 

[klondike]

I think its a shame they basicly made these events much to easy.

Im far from the best driver, and I had not been able to gold everything in the previous events, but I enjoyed them a lot.

For me ill rather try and event 10 times and only get silver after that, than i will try and event once, or maybe twice and then have gold.

I like to play the game as a challenge. When the challenge is gone its to boring. There is no feel of having done a great achivement after finnaly getting it right.

Now it seems like all the events are just like the A spec races, but with 10 X the amount of credits and XP.

The whole XP, credit system in the game is totally screwed up.

Online yelds to litle.
A spec to litle.
Licenses to litle.
Seasonal races, way to much.

 

[Gejabo]

I really don't get it.

Seasonal events 1 & 2 everyone (or at least alot) was whining they are to hard, the restrictions are a bad thing.

And now the restrictions are gone and still people are complaining..

Make you own restrictions, in stead of taking your 800HP monster to a race where there are only 200HP cars take a car that has the same amount of power as the opponents.

How hard can it be

 

[Pezzarinho17]

I haven't had a go at the events yet, but try them stock and won't you get that same challenge you are after? You don't have to tune just because there is no restriction against it...

The difference now is that if you are doing it for the money and experience that you can (by choice) neuter the challenge and just take the rewards. Easy, cheap way out but its up to you. Play for yourself and no one elses approval...

 

[sneak194]

I don't get it. The first series was perfectly balanced. Of course it wasn't really THAT challenging, if you are a decent driver and tuned the cars to the max. But it was FUN! The second series was too hard (race 2,3 and 4). I won't ever use SRF, and I bet only 0.09% of the drivers beat this series without it. But anyway, i could live with my second places in those events. It's not that those events count to the completion percentage of the game, so who cares? The Nascar Event was almost perfect. Very challenging and intense, but only doable with a changed setup, which is maybe a little too much to expect from casual gamers.
I wonder what feedback the must have gotten to change the whole concept like that...

 

[icleolion]

I haven't had a go at the events yet, but try them stock and won't you get that same challenge you are after? You don't have to tune just because there is no restriction against it...

As with the duping issue, what people are really upset about is it being easier for everyone else who won't restrict themselves.

 

[JJ72]

I haven't had a go at the events yet, but try them stock and won't you get that same challenge you are after? You don't have to tune just because there is no restriction against it...

The only one well balanced with a stock car is the elise one.

Both the Prius and C4 one were too easy with stock.

TT and Ford GT demanded tuning, no questions about it, and without a tune celling you can easily overtune and had it easy.

 

[Mjer1984]

I am quite happy with the seasonal events as they were, I haven't had a chance to see the new ones but if they are unrestricted this will just make them a bit easier.

I like being able to get the levels and money quickly and easily as it allows me to compete in the more difficult races without meaningless grinding. Heck given that I can only play about 1-> 2 hours a week if I didn't have these events I would never be able to afford some of the more expensive cars.

With this aspect of the game mainly effecting the single player, I can't really see what the problem is. If you dont want the money/XP then don't do the events. If this was a sweeping change to an MMO type game then I could see why people would be annoyed.

 

[abfielder]

Well I beat COD single player on veteran. Boy did I hate the last 140 m in that tunnel in that rocket plant. I needed almost an hour for these last 140 m. But I did it and I got an achievment for it. And those who couldn't do it, didn't get it.
This change of rules is like giving that achievment to everybody, also to those who didn't earn and therefor deserve it.

I'm not among the best GT players out there ( in fact I had to max outt he cars within the regulation in some events including skid recovery in order to win the race by a small margin, RX7 and Ford Focus race for example ) and I don't need a worthless gold trophy in a game to boost my self-confidence. But I want a motivating game that gives me a reward for doing sth better than the average joe. How can you not understand that ?

Glad you have the time to do all that. I just simply don't have the time to put that much effort into a computer game.

Some of those races I couldn't get near first and don't have the time to practice over and over.

I'd quite like to get to level 30 so I can have a go at the red bull challenges and this is perfect for me.

A nice mixture of hard and easy events is a good way forward. You can't please all of the people all of the time.

 

[Pezzarinho17]

As with the duping issue, what people are really upset about is it being easier for everyone else who won't restrict themselves.

Yeh but its not their place to be annoyed really, it will always happen and if you don't do it yourself then there is no personal devalue of the game... There is no reward for completing these races, so as long as YOU are challenged and feel your personal time is well spent, where is the loss?

The only one well balanced with a stock car is the elise one.

Both the Prius and C4 one were too easy with stock.

TT and Ford GT demanded tuning, no questions about it, and without a tune celling you can easily overtune and had it easy.

THIS is a more understandable problem though... As I said before I haven't tried them yet but will attempt each stock. If the challenge has LEGITIMATELY been ruined before overpowering your own car then there is no way you can have your own personal battles.

 

[birksy82]

The first 2 seasonal events were a good challenge so I can see why people don't like the way the 3rd one's have been done. I got all gold on the first set and on the second set I have got gold apart from the focus and rx7 events which I have silver so far. I found it quite rewarding that you can find the best settings for your car to win. On the other side of the coin though I gifted my friend my GTR 09 which was setup perfectly to win the GTR race on the first lot of events and the best he could get is 5th place so the 3rd lot will give the people who are not great at the game a chance to get the big money and xp.

 

[Dennisch]

PD should create a HARDCORE section in the online races, so when people find the casuals to easy, they can try it at ridiculous difficulty!

Time to stop bitching 👍

 

[hyyperactive]

Glad you have the time to do all that. I just simply don't have the time to put that much effort into a computer game.

Some of those races I couldn't get near first and don't have the time to practice over and over.

I'd quite like to get to level 30 so I can have a go at the red bull challenges and this is perfect for me.

A nice mixture of hard and easy events is a good way forward. You can't please all of the people all of the time.

I don't get this "I don't have time or I'm not willing to earn anything so make it super easy for me" mentality. If you don't have time you should not get gold period. Gold prize is something you need to earn. Not be given.

 

[Max_DC]

Glad you have the time to do all that. I just simply don't have the time to put that much effort into a computer game.

Some of those races I couldn't get near first and don't have the time to practice over and over.

I'd quite like to get to level 30 so I can have a go at the red bull challenges and this is perfect for me.

A nice mixture of hard and easy events is a good way forward. You can't please all of the people all of the time.

Well COD aside, all you had to do to win the seasonal events was buying your car, buy as many tuning parts as allowed or needed for your skill level ( buying the best of everything if you don't want to invest too much time for trial and error driving ) and drive the event with skid recovery and active steering. I'd say that most people can get at least 3rd or second place in every race. And that is enough. if you want 2nd or first place and all that didn't help you, practice or be satisfied with third place.

You don't hear me complaining that I only have 40 gold licences.

 

[Dennisch]

I don't get this "I don't have time or I'm not willing to earn anything so make it super easy for me" mentality. If you don't have time you should not get gold period. Gold prize is something you need to earn. Not be given.

Just like the lack of trophies you can earn! The GTR record on the schleife is one of the few trophies based on your skills, in stead of time spend in the game 👎

 

[35mm]

Citroën C4 WRC...? Oh, crap.

That means all gold on Sébastien Loeb Rally Challenge, right?

 

[Dennisch]

Citroën C4 WRC...? Oh, crap.

That means all gold on Sébastien Loeb Rally Challenge, right?

Yup, or buy it, but find a guide online and you can kick Loebs ***!

It's easy