Self Improvement

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^ Dude, wut? :lol:

Masturbation (sorry :ouch: ) is perfectly natural and a good way of cleaning the pipes, so to speak. No reason to give it up unless you believe the old wives' tale of going blind!

Indeed, it's not an alternative to anything, it's necessary in many ways. I can promise you these NOFAP guys will be punching kittens within a month.

And that's not a metaphor, I mean literal kitten punching.
 
When you think about it, it doesn't make much sense to actually do it for the pleasure. We were designed to pass on genetic material to make sure we could continue to survive as a species.

I assume the feeling of reduced stress and the like is down to the chemical make-up that has to make it feel good for breeding to happen and for a desire to do so, to create an genetic offspring with a mate. But in prehistoric times, I don't think you actually get men going off to the woods for some quiet time with themselves as they have too many other pressing needs (hunting for food, foraging, fighting off rivals and predators, etc etc) to do that. We don't even know if they were bonking their partners as often as they could, or only at certain periods of the year to take advantage of fertility.

I think it is down to the fact that in modern first-world society, we have become a lot more inactive which then leads us to do more pleasure seeking things than ever before, more so than we were actually designed for.
 
When you think about it, it doesn't make much sense to actually do it for the pleasure. We were designed to pass on genetic material to make sure we could continue to survive as a species.

I assume the feeling of reduced stress and the like is down to the chemical make-up that has to make it feel good for breeding to happen and for a desire to do so, to create an genetic offspring with a mate. But in prehistoric times, I don't think you actually get men going off to the woods for some quiet time with themselves as they have too many other pressing needs (hunting for food, foraging, fighting off rivals and predators, etc etc) to do that. We don't even know if they were bonking their partners as often as they could, or only at certain periods of the year to take advantage of fertility.

I think it is down to the fact that in modern first-world society, we have become a lot more inactive which then leads us to do more pleasure seeking things than ever before, more so than we were actually designed for.

Many many different species of mammals and birds masturbate - both male and female. It has nothing to do first-world society 'fiddling while Rome burns' its just part of nature.
 
Its like one of those weird situational questions. If you don't see it, how do you know of it? Additionally I assume most people would have thought that nature was too much about survival than anything else.

Its a weird topic to talk about self improvement anyway.
 
Hahaha not give it up permanently just like seriously cut down and put the energy in something else. Not everyone will agree granted but this is an interesting thread with some interesting thoughts. I thought id add mine, Im giving it a go, see what happens. If I end up punching poor kittehs then I know it was far from self improvement :lol:
 
No reason to give it up unless you believe the old wives' tale of going blind!
I worry about the excess of this, they say 'if you don't use it you lose it' & 'too much of a good thing can be bad' I'm concerned will it ever just feel obliged to detach?:scared:
And that's not a metaphor, I mean literal kitten punching.
In what world is that a bad thing:dopey:
Its a weird topic to talk about self improvement anyway.
This is the second time I've visited this thread and having read some of these comments i feel i should vist more often:lol:, i'd have to agree it is odd though yes.
Hahaha not give it up permanently just like seriously cut down and put the energy in something else. Not everyone will agree granted but this is an interesting thread with some interesting thoughts. I thought id add mine, Im giving it a go, see what happens. If I end up punching poor kittehs then I know it was far from self improvement :lol:
I find doing both works for me, I'm generally very de-stressed when i go to bed.

To get this a little back on topic i've started styling my hair, (at the risk of sounding arrogant I'm fairly good looking but have always been let down by my lazy attitude towards my hair) I'm on my second day of making an effort with it and already today i had a customer at work flirt with me (i seriously regret not asking her out for a drink but hopefully it'll be the start of a trend. I was also told by a girl that i used to be seeing that her friends thought i was hot, not a necessarily required one but a massive confidence boost:D
 
I need to make a bunch of goals for myself. There is so much that I never know where to start.

First of all I need to get another Uni ID because I lost mine, when i get my Uni ID I can work on goal #2 which is start working out. I need to shed some lbs.

I started 2012 by not drinking soda at all ever again. it didn't last. I went from all soda, to no dark soda, to just sprite/7up/sierra mist then back to dark soda ONLY in a glass bottle, then back to anything goes. Its nor every day i have soda, but if its in the house i drink it. it also does not help that my wife LOVES soda and will never give it up.

I need to work on myself more. I dont shave often because i hate it, but i need to shave every other day at the least. i need better oral hygiene. and need to do my hair more often instead of wearing a hat.

Also I need to start paying more attention to school and less time to my Xbox/PS3 i need to stop procrastinating schoolwork and start doing the 🤬

Also, I need to work on getting more social. I have a VERY LIMITED group of friends (within 3 close friends) here in MI, (one of them is in Oregon) and it seems and most of my friends here have lives and no time to hang out. I want to get involved in groups, make new friends and get a life. I feel like all i do is work and go to school and play vidya games. its hard though because im super shy and dont know at all where to start.

arrg!
 
Been working out for only a week now, but an hour a day does wonders to your energy levels. I also found that I was able to do my routine easier today, so it is working.
 
I need to focus more on school and stop procrastinating, but there seems to be no way that I can stop that problem. I am home-schooled and try to do school every day, but I keep browsing the internet and playing video games and it interferes with school.

Anger issues. When I get angry (and that happens a lot, and over loads of things), I cannot calm down and go off like a bomb. No techniques have worked to keep me calm since I don't even try them. I this has been going on for so long that I feel that nothing will help me calm down when I get infuriated.
 
No Alcohol: Day 36

Have had the multi-gym assembled for 3 days, used it on two of them.. will I keep it up?

Whilst the bible hasn't converted me yet, I listened to the words of a religious man some weeks ago, and I now having opened my mind to possibilities, I find myself noticing things that I may have otherwise thought of as coincidental, and asking if it was indeed chance, or if my own internal monologue has been heard........... freaky!! I might expand on this later in the thread...

I think I also need to get a girlfriend, this will be tricky.. I now have zero social life and no (local) friends, I got totally messed up over the last one, and to be honest I've never done physical or emotional closeness particularly well.... add to that the fact that without (an alcoholic) drink I have nothing to say about anything interesting and am no fun at all to be around - even my dear old Mum prefer's it when I have a drin at family get-togethers!!!


Also, many people seem to cite procrastination as a problem... I'll agree, it definatley is an issue... however it did remind me of a quote I once read - "Surviving depression by procrastination: It's easier to find a reason to get out of bed in the morning, if you've put off everything you were supposed to do yesterday, until today" (or words to that effect..)
 
No Alcohol: Day 36

Have had the multi-gym assembled for 3 days, used it on two of them.. will I keep it up?

Whilst the bible hasn't converted me yet, I listened to the words of a religious man some weeks ago, and I now having opened my mind to possibilities, I find myself noticing things that I may have otherwise thought of as coincidental, and asking if it was indeed chance, or if my own internal monologue has been heard........... freaky!! I might expand on this later in the thread...

I think I also need to get a girlfriend, this will be tricky.. I now have zero social life and no (local) friends, I got totally messed up over the last one, and to be honest I've never done physical or emotional closeness particularly well.... add to that the fact that without (an alcoholic) drink I have nothing to say about anything interesting and am no fun at all to be around - even my dear old Mum prefer's it when I have a drin at family get-togethers!!!


Also, many people seem to cite procrastination as a problem... I'll agree, it definatley is an issue... however it did remind me of a quote I once read - "Surviving depression by procrastination: It's easier to find a reason to get out of bed in the morning, if you've put off everything you were supposed to do yesterday, until today" (or words to that effect..)

Keep up the good work.

I have/ had a similar problem wherein I'm much more social after a few brews and a bit of a bore without. I still manage to get by with using the conversation to my advantage by talking about things everyone can relate to so as to not get boring.

Multi-gym? Good plan. I use a running machine once in a while to zone out and put in some mileage. I'll no doubt take out my bicycle for a spin today to cure some boredom and work on my fitness.

A girlfriend doesn't have to be a planned thing, even if you do want one. I've only ever sought out a girlfriend once, the other times I was quite happy being single and then a relationship happened to form.

Ah, procrastination. The curse of free time spent doing nothing useful. Remember that much procrastinating is a point of view; while some say the time I spend on this site could be considered procrastinating I would view it as a distraction to drink. See where I'm coming from?
Some might say my spending a whole day reading a book for my pleasure falls into the same category, I'd say to them I'm furthering my knowledge.

I'll agree that I do put things off. I spend a whole afternoon in my office reading the news or chewing the fat and only prepare for my classes with 20 minutes before they start. Why. Because the pressure of knowing I have to get it down quickly improves my efficiency, in that situation procrastinating aids my work.

The long and short of it would be this: habits are easier to replace with other habits than to outright stop. It's just a process of over ruling one's mind. Replacing a habit is just as easy as getting on, it's a case of repetition until the brain recognises that it has become part of its routine. So don't take a break from that multi-gym, keep at it, even 10 minutes a day and soon a new habit will take hold and it will become something you do everyday out of routine.

Hope this helps, Mr. Monk. You're not the only one in this situation, we're going through the same purge together. 👍
 
Hmmm. Interesting topic. In my own opinion I have too many flaws to even start with, but I guess I'll go for the ones that effect me most. I guess I'll start with my procrastination, and it's not really a matter of distraction or laziness, but I'll just put things off for no other reason than just delaying them.

There's my incessant perfectionism that I expect only of myself. In other words, I'm never happy with what I do or accomplish, and always believe that somehow I failed or did worse than reality.

My diet and exercise; I'm not unfit, but 20lbs or so off would be nice, and it's just something that I really should change for the better.

I've become a horrible person socially, mainly because of what's happened in my past, and now have become a practical shut-in to everyone else. I'm not an introvert, but I just shut everyone else out from my personal life in belief that there is no one that can be trusted.

Finally, and by far the one that eats me the most, I'm far too hard on myself. This also blends into my perfectionism, but more in the terms of I over-analyze every little freaking thing I do. I always fear that I've done something wrong in some aspect of my life that would negatively affect someone else, whether it's making a joke at somebody out of fun, or just being afraid that I wasn't interesting enough in a conversation. I absolutely hate it, and feel that I have managed to improve it a little, but it still practically runs my life.

Well, there's my list I guess. I'm not looking for sympathy or anything like that at all, I just want to actually put it out there what I'm trying to do so someone could actually hold my word to these comments if ever that would be the case. Well, now I guess is time for me to start!

Good luck to everyone who posts here. MatskiMonk and W3HS; amazing work you guys have done, I've known a couple of people who've struggled with alcohol, and it's very unfortunate to see happen, and GTmail, good luck with that one, that's got to be tough.
 
I'm trying to lose weight as well, though nothing seems to be working. I do try to exercise, though I don't think I'm getting enough of it. As well, I eat healthier than I did before, but the fact that my stomach is pretty much a bottomless pit prevents me from eating less and I end up overeating.
 
Keep up the good work.

Cheers

A girlfriend doesn't have to be a planned thing, even if you do want one. I've only ever sought out a girlfriend once, the other times I was quite happy being single and then a relationship happened to form.

Ha trust me.. maybe planned is the wrong word but in my experience these things don't just happen... I'd get better odds on winning the lottery.

In other news, I did use the multi-gym again tonight, and still no alcohol, and probably totally un-related to the drinking, but my boss is considering making me a company director.

Anyhow, thanks for the words of wisdom and motivation as ever SHEM 👍

Bennen13
There's my incessant perfectionism that I expect only of myself. In other words, I'm never happy with what I do or accomplish, and always believe that somehow I failed or did worse than reality.

Maybe you should set out your goals more clearly before you start something, decide how exactly you want something to be before you start, and work towards it.
 
I'm trying to lose weight as well, though nothing seems to be working. I do try to exercise, though I don't think I'm getting enough of it. As well, I eat healthier than I did before, but the fact that my stomach is pretty much a bottomless pit prevents me from eating less and I end up overeating.

When I lost 30 pounds in 11 months I restricted myself to 2000-2500 calories per day and did 20 push-ups and 20 sit-ups at the end of each day. Once a week I try to do more push-ups(do a 100 push-ups in 4 different sets and giving myself rest in between sets) or sit-ups to mix it up for the body. I usually let myself eat more for just one day per week(usually Sundays) as I knew going cold turkey is hard on your appetite. This plan allowed me to lose 1-2 pounds per week.

As for my cold it has gone to a sinus infection. I got the meds today to take care of it and hopefully this will all disappear. I'm hoping soon as I've gained 12 pounds in my weight. I've been laying off of my exercise to try to help myself get better.
 
From mid 2011 until late August of this year, I didn't give a 🤬 about how I looked, finding a job, nothing; I had given up all hope. I've never told anybody this, not even family members, but I seriously contemplated suicide on more than one occasion. A series of events on the night of August 26th, 2012 took me out of that dark place. First, when I was about to fall asleep at my grandfather's house (we were helping his neighbors move), I heard the voice of my late grandmother say my name in her normal voice. At almost the exact same time, I started thinking about a beautiful woman that I had met only 2 days before at the neighbor's house. The combination of the two events plus the incredible vibes the woman gave off when I was around her sparked something in my brain, because the very next morning, I promptly shaved my sideburns off which hadn't been done in well over a week. The following days involved me getting a haircut which hadn't happened in almost a year plus "personal" maintenance.

Now a month after the events, I've become better but not perfect at maintaining my appearance and have a better outlook on life, but still haven't found a job. :grumpy: I still feel a bit down at times, but nothing like I felt in the past. I've also started thinking about getting into better physical shape recently. Finally, I want to work hard on my shyness around people, especially women and become better at expressing my emotions. I will forever be grateful for my late grandmother and this woman for pulling me out of a hole I fell in and almost couldn't get out of. 👍
 
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From mid 2011 until late August of this year, I didn't give a 🤬 about how I looked, finding a job, nothing; I had given up all hope. I've never told anybody this, not even family members, but I seriously contemplated suicide on more than one occasion. A series of events on the night of August 26th, 2012 took me out of that dark place. First, when I was about to fall asleep at my grandfather's house (we were helping his neighbors move), I heard the voice of my late grandmother say my name in her normal voice. At almost the exact same time, I started thinking about a beautiful woman that I had met only 2 days before at the neighbor's house. The combination of the two events plus the incredible vibes the woman gave off when I was around her sparked something in my brain, because the very next morning, I promptly shaved my sideburns off which hadn't been done in well over a week. The following days involved me getting a haircut which hadn't happened in almost a year plus "personal" maintenance.

Now a month after the events, I've become better but not perfect at maintaining my appearance and have a better outlook on life, but still haven't found a job. :grumpy: I still feel a bit down at times, but nothing like I felt in the past. I've also started thinking about getting into better physical shape recently. Finally, I want to work hard on my shyness around people, especially women and become better at expressing my emotions. I will forever be grateful for my late grandmother and this woman for pulling me out of a hole I fell in and almost couldn't get out of. 👍

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Wherever you get your inspiration from it's good that you've decided that you want to make a change, it can be really hard to motivate yourself when you've given up on everything - but it's funny sometimes what can trigger an upturn. Keep it up :)
 
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Wherever you get your inspiration from it's good that you've decided that you want to make a change, it can be really hard to motivate yourself when you've given up on everything - but it's funny sometimes what can trigger an upturn. Keep it up :)

Thanks! The power of women can be amazing sometimes. ;) Back on topic, I'm going to a get-together tomorrow for the neighbors we helped move; I'll try my new found self-confidence out. :)
 
Well after my girlfriend of two years and fiance of one year left me I've been in a funk, one that's lasted me for about five months now. Here recently I've started drinking on the heavier side, and a few of my close friends have raised concerns about out becoming a habit. So before it gets too out of hand I'm going to attempt to get back out there. Anyone hour any advice?
 
Replace the action for drinking or the thought process for drinking with something else. It could be exercise, hobbies or simply walking out and about.

Arrange to be really busy with friends or be with other people who are a bit fitter than yourself, to challenge yourself to keep fit?
 
Well after my girlfriend of two years and fiance of one year left me I've been in a funk, one that's lasted me for about five months now. Here recently I've started drinking on the heavier side, and a few of my close friends have raised concerns about out becoming a habit. So before it gets too out of hand I'm going to attempt to get back out there. Anyone hour any advice?

Any time that you want a drink, do something that will better your chances of success with the ladies... it's easier said than done, but really it's the only option.



As for me, 40 days, no alcohol. I appear to be suffering from dehydration regularly now, since I'm still waking up with banging headaches and kidney-ache.. I would guess that it's because I've gone from drinking several litres of liquid a night to not really drinking anything, save for maybe a glass of water whilst I'm working out - which I'm still managing to do, infact I also bought a incline sit-up bench.
 
No Alcohol: Day 42

Today is 6 weeks since the last drink. I believe this is usually how long it takes to detox from alcohol.

It's beginning to get a bit difficult again, I've really not noticed a tangible improvement in my health or well-being.

I've made a lot of improvements to my life over the past 6 weeks - but this could just as easily be part of the same desire for change mechanism that lead me to quit in the first place, as it could be an effect of quitting... heck, it could even be just because I'm now more open to God! who knows!

Problem is, the underlying reasons for me drinking haven't changed in 10 years, and now I can't loose my mind somewhere towards the bottom of a bottle of Rum I'm becoming more acutely aware of that each passing day. It's not fun, in fact it's total ****, and as the days have turned into weeks the idea that, at 33, this is how everyday for the rest of my life is going to be makes everything so much harder.

I've resigned myself to accepting this as a test of my resolve and I will not be weak and I won't give in (although I am sat here drinking 0% beer as a placebo)... I'm just not yet sure why I'm doing it, because as far as I'm concerned, I'm better off on the drink.

"The Gospel according to Matski"

.. this is a little bit religious, which really I feel foolish saying, but I asked God* for help and strength through a difficult time; I was broke and had 2 weeks to move out, so I gave up drinking. One-day that week I had a chat to a friends Dad, he's firmly a christian believer... it was an interesting conversation and whilst I assured him my belief is in science and not religion, I did also talk with him about my Mum having cancer - this scares the crap out of me and I've not verbalised any of my feelings on it before. He was the one that gave me a bible...

.. within that week I'd agreed with my new/current landlord a deal to move into a bigger, better house, that is also cheaper (2 bed semi with garage and garden from 2 bed flat), but at this stage, I didn't have the money to fulfil my part of the deal. Since I've no savings and was being turned down by everyone for loans, I was a bit stuck.

.. So, I asked* for help again, did the lord provide? Well, specifically it was my boss... who lent (actually "gave" would be the word) me the money to move, and to buy the essential furnishings.

So now I find myself in a nicer place, with better stuff, and I'm not drinking.

Open to the idea that 'maybe I should start believing in this', I asked for a sign... the following morning I'm woken up by two preachers at the door... it was a real short conversation, and I went back to bed none the wiser, but the coincidence struck me later...

.. so I said again* 'maybe I should start believing in this', feeling that maybe this would help me improve my life - I just needed a sign, something to motivate me. The following day, a distant friend was re-introduced to me. Not a close friend, or somebody I speak to that often, but somebody that was there for me once when I really needed it, and without even realising it helped me through some tough times - this is somebody that helps me to see that it is worth making the effort each day. (She's also quite attractive which is nice)

... so, I said* 'If all it takes is belief to give me the strength to get on, then all I need is Hope, and I can do the rest'.

And lo, it put was put before me the following day, the opportunity to become a director within the company I work for, which would come with both risk and more importantly... reward --- yep, bigger paycheque... (not that I'm shallow or materialistic, but I'm sick and tired of being in debt and basically skint over the last 15 years and not having anything to show for it)... the company has just started turning over millions of pounds a year, with foreseeable and probable growth of 200% over the next 3-5 years.

So... There is hope.

Question is now, do I believe?

One thing I am sure about, is you don't have to believe in God to give thanks for the good things, such as the good health of friends and family, for having a better standard of living, and having far more freedoms and opportunities than billions of other people in the world, and for being physically and mentally healthy enough myself to live my own life... just at the end of the day, after you've turned out your side-light, even if you just say it to yourself, I believe it's important to acknowledge such things.

*I would say, I had a discussion with myself, in the hope that fate, the cosmos, somebody, or something would hear.

Aaaaannyyhow... I've also been using the multi-gym, incline bench and free-weights most nights. Still not massive work-outs, but it's still new enough that my muscles properly hurt even before I start, that should pass by the end of the week I hope.

The boredom that has arisen from not drinking and having 0% social life lead me to start removing unwanted body hair with an epilator. It hurts like "F", don't ever do it!

! ever !

In other news, I may learn a new language.

I also saw a good advert on Facebook, no idea what it was for but it included the quote: "The happiest people don't have the best of everything, they just make the best of everything"... which I thought was good.

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Mind: Cleaner, but not clearer
Body: 1.5st lighter, marginally more toned, and partially hairless
Soul: Maybe not lost!




.. oh man that will be a TL;DR post!
 
No Alcohol: Day 42

Today is 6 weeks since the last drink. I believe this is usually how long it takes to detox from alcohol.

It's beginning to get a bit difficult again, I've really not noticed a tangible improvement in my health or well-being.

I struggle sometimes, especially when I put myself in a bar/ restaurant with friends. I do, however, feel a sense of accomplishment when I leave without having touched a drop or even thought about having a beer; gone straight for a Coke instead.

I've made a lot of improvements to my life over the past 6 weeks - but this could just as easily be part of the same desire for change mechanism that lead me to quit in the first place, as it could be an effect of quitting... heck, it could even be just because I'm now more open to God! who knows!

One change seems to affect lots of other changes, or at least I've found.

My relationship with my father is deteriorating because we were drinking buddies and I now can't stand to be around him when he's one the lash and acting like a fool, as I once was too. It's a shame that he can't see it from my point of view because he too is an alcoholic.

Problem is, the underlying reasons for me drinking haven't changed in 10 years, and now I can't loose my mind somewhere towards the bottom of a bottle of Rum I'm becoming more acutely aware of that each passing day. It's not fun, in fact it's total ****, and as the days have turned into weeks the idea that, at 33, this is how everyday for the rest of my life is going to be makes everything so much harder.

I've resigned myself to accepting this as a test of my resolve and I will not be weak and I won't give in (although I am sat here drinking 0% beer as a placebo)... I'm just not yet sure why I'm doing it, because as far as I'm concerned, I'm better off on the drink.

Oh how I **** a brick when I first resolved to give up the drink, realising I might have to be sober for the rest of my life! It's only someone in the same situation who can realise how traumatic it is to know that even one drink will cause a world of trouble.

Can I go on forever without a drink? I don't know. The next few years until I can be responsible again? I think so.

0% beers can't be a bad thing. I go through untold tins of Coke just to satisfy the habit of 'drinking'. I'll do as many cokes as I used to beers, sometimes that's 6 cans in a few hours (when with friends) which is no better for me physically than beer but at least mentally I'm untouched.

"The Gospel according to Matski"

Now that deserves it's own thread.

If I had an operation bank card I'd get you a premium and you could use my Cold Turkey thread for keeping your posts. I set it up for the same exact reason that we're talking about here and it really helped me a lot when others offered advice. Unfortunately UnionPay is the Chinese banking systems flaw, why they can't offer Visa or Mastercard is beyond me. :grumpy:
 
The new meds are working well on my sinus infection so as of tonight I will start exercising again. Can't put it off for much longer as with my appetite I will gain weight easily.
 
Procrastination. That's what is happening to me right now. I start homework at 10pm and get distracted and finish at 2am-3am. This is really frustrating, because I lack motivation to do schoolwork. Yet at the same time I realize that this can affect my mood and energy the next day (or the current day). I get maybe 4-3 hours of sleep a night, and for my age, that's horrible.

If this gets worse over the week, I'll be requesting a week's ban from GTP...
 
Ah, procrastination, tell me about it. I spend most days a week sitting at the computer rather than exercising, cleaning the house, finding food, doing work or doing anything other than reading giant amounts of information and posting on here.
 
No Alcohol: Day 42

With regards to not drinking water, if you can get started by drinking water fairly regularly, it generally does make you feel better after a couple of days of steadily drinking a reasonable amount of water.

It may also make the craving for beer not as strong as you've already got a lot of liquid inside that sasify(sp?) your thirst.

Still... 1.5 stone weight loss is amazing.
 
Having just typed out the previous post I decided to get up and go down stairs and back up again (my most convenient gym replacement). 21 floors down and then up again, no easy feat, though I did stop at the shop downstairs for some smokes.
 
No Alcohol: Day 42

Certainly an interesting read - God or no god, the right attitude changes everything.

With regards to not drinking water, if you can get started by drinking water fairly regularly, it generally does make you feel better after a couple of days of steadily drinking a reasonable amount of water.

It may also make the craving for beer not as strong as you've already got a lot of liquid inside that sasify(sp?) your thirst.

The more you drink it, the more you'll like it, I can't get enough of it! I drink a glass of water as soon as I wake up and feel great for it.
 
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