Should GT6 include cockpit view when 95% of players don't use it?

[PS3LUV3R]

95% of players don't use it? I find that a little hard to believe.

Either way, there's no way they're going to ditch cockpit view.

We are the 5%!

 

[another_jakhole]

95% of players don't use it? I find that a little hard to believe.

Either way, there's no way they're going to ditch cockpit view.

we are the 5%!

nice

ok the title is misleading, maybe 95% don't use it in grid 2 but gt5 is a whole other game?

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=236625

 

[mjm23race]

I said moving the seat forward and backward would be the same as zooming in and out. Explain what you mean by "moving your seat", what are you trying to adjust?

You can change your field of view depending where your head is.

 

[Foxiol]

No interior/cockpit view = no buy for me.

Every Simulator in the market must have it and with the option to remove the wheel too.

The idea of playing a simulator is to have a "playseat" or something like that with a monitor or TV in front of you, and your wheel must be at the same high of the wheel in the cockpit of the car on the image/screen.

That is how i play with my wheel even while i am not using a "playseat". I have one of those chairs that you can set the "altitude" (lol) and my wheel is attached to the table where i have my huge 47'' HDTV...then i match the wheel with the cockpit view as much as i can to have the "inside" proper view of the car.

That´s the only way to play for me...the others are just not realistic and you can use it just to see the track better or something...but sometimes.

Again, no cockpit view no buy. Grid 2...i am one of those 5%, sorry you will not see a penny from me.

 

[ZohsixGT5]

We are the 5%!

I think we need to start an occupy movement.

 

[HuskyGT]

You can adjust the the cockpit view in GT5.

The only problem is that it makes the view worst since it's only a zoom option. The big problem with most cockpit views in GT5 is that they are too close, making the zoom option useless.

 

[another_jakhole]

The only problem is that it makes the view worst since it's only a zoom option. The big problem with most cockpit views in GT5 is that they are too close, making the zoom option useless.

On the more narrow tracks, this is true for me. I've actually started using the normal Zoom view for the wider tracks. The Zoom view makes the feeling of driving more alive and it feels like you're closer to the road.

 

[Foxiol]

On the more narrow tracks, this is true for me. I've actually started using the normal Zoom view for the wider tracks. The Zoom view makes the feeling of driving more alive and it feels like you're closer to the road.

In that case what we need is FOV adjustment too. But also a bad use of it could give it a bad look to the game or make it feel strange. It is nice to have at least a "zoom" function but also what we need is a "up and down seat" function as in rFactor for example. That works good too. Going back or forward ("zoom") is not enough that´s why it feels strange in GT5...i never change it after trying.

Current cameras are good enough for me.

 

[HuskyGT]

On the more narrow tracks, this is true for me. I've actually started using the normal Zoom view for the wider tracks. The Zoom view makes the feeling of driving more alive and it feels like you're closer to the road.

But I've noticed that the Zoom is not really the driver getting closer, but an overal zoom in the image. That makes you loose some peripheral view of your surroundings. There is only one car in which I find the zoom useful, and that is the GT Citroen, or at least before they adjusted the views after the 2.06 update.

 

[Samus]

Regarding views what I want more above anything in GT6 is a consistent bonnet cam. That view is very inconsistent across the cars in GT5, sometimes it is pretty much on the bonnet, other times it's barely above the bumper cam and other times it's on the roof.

I'd like the camera in the same place on every car, basically at the top of the bonnet where the wiper blades are, roughly.

 

[mjm23race]

Kind of funny this thread is already 5 pages when no one ever mentioned cockpit view removal as a consideration.

 

[another_jakhole]

In that case what we need is FOV adjustment too. But also a bad use of it could give it a bad look to the game or make it feel strange. It is nice to have at least a "zoom" function but also what we need is a "up and down seat" function as in rFactor for example. That works good too. Going back or forward ("zoom") is not enough that´s why it feels strange in GT5...i never change it after trying.

Current cameras are good enough for me.

Project Cars does it well. You can adjust it however way you want.

Off-topic
You can choose very specific weather conditions too.

 

[Zyla]

I drive in cockpit view EVERY time.

 

[Foxiol]

Project Cars does it well. You can adjust it however way you want.

Off-topic
You can choose very specific weather conditions too.

Yes but lets see if they are going to implement the same thing for consoles...which i don´t care in that case...(PC version)

Also off topic...still we need to see if the simulation physics are going to be as good as the features...because by now...👎

(Full member and still a not happy one...i need Simulation physics already...but still trying all builds every week and waiting for September)

Go back to topic people.

 

[Antonisbob]

It's very nice to have, and since the GT series is a simulator it's a MUST have. I don't often use it, but it's always nice for the option to be there. Especially on LMP cars ect. - Le Mans @ night in cockpit view is something everyone should experience.

 

[HuskyGT]

It's very nice to have, and since the GT series is a simulator it's a MUST have. I don't often use it, but it's always nice for the option to be there. Especially on LMP cars ect. - Le Mans @ night in cockpit view is something everyone should experience.

Exactly! Or driving through the 24H Nurburgring with full weather in a Peugeot 908HDi Fap. Scary.

 

[dethringr]

I wouldnt mind if they move the view forward over the dash in the cockpit. Because when driving, i dont really look down on the cluster unless i see a cop and i need to slow down to the speed limit. And by moving the view foward, you get more view outside and around you. the cockpit feels a little claustophobic to me

 

[HuskyGT]

I wouldnt mind if they move the view forward over the dash in the cockpit. Because when driving, i dont really look down on the cluster unless i see a cop and i need to slow down to the speed limit. And by moving the view foward, you get more view outside and around you. the cockpit feels a little claustophobic to me

Seeing the cluster and part of the steering wheel is part of the appeal of cockpit view. Turn the HUD off and you get the best experience.

If you prefer it close, you can always have the option to zoom in the view.

 

[Jerwin]

I use cockpit view all the time. The ability to adjust the camera and the field of view like in most PC sims would be nice.

 

[Raitziger]

PD dumped 1:1 steering animation which one of reasons why I prefer using bumper view. Also cockpit meter detail is poor in GT5 compared to e.g. F4 which makes using meters for information harder.

 

[Gejabo]

No cockpit view??

That makes them standard cars.

 

[IceMan PJN]

Cockpits or leave the industry. Not having cockpits is unacceptable, and there's no avoiding that fact. Any modern racing game lacking cockpits is an outdated joke of a product and cannot be taken seriously. With GT5 I tolerated the lack of cockpits in 80% of the Sub-Standard cars, but if GT6 pulls the same crap I may not waste money on a glorified N64 game.

 

[IceMan PJN]

No cockpit view??

That makes them standard cars.

No, Standard cars were also built from like one percent of the polygons going into a Premium, and had more basic texture maps.

(Don't mean to double-post, but wanted to add that and I'm on my cell.)

 

[Grand Prix]

I use bumper cam. No matter what car I'm driving, I know where the edges of the car are and can more precisely use every inch of road. The perspective changes from car to car in order for this to happen. That is, the edges of the car are always near the edges of the tachometer and analog speedometer. I'm at least one second a lap faster with bumper cam over cockpit view, on most tracks.

It's not the most realistic view, but then again, GT5 isn't the most realistic driving game in the universe, in the first place. Although it's fairly good on comfort tires at least.

Soooo, I won't miss cockpit view much TBH. But for most, I can see why they would want it in the game.

 

[Small_Fryz]

Cockpit view in GT5 is broken anyway.. the depth perception and feel of the car is all wrong.

I can drive cockpit view in many PC sims sitting on either left OR right side with no issue, but in GT5... no can do.

So if GT6 was to provide a "proper" cockpit view then I think a lot more people would use it.

I myself run with "roof cam", again hardly the most realistic viewpoint as I doubt one would be strapped to the roof of a vehicle going 160mph , but it does the job surprisingly well .

 

[MSTER232]

No cockpit view??

That makes them standard cars.

No it doesn't. One of the premium cars lacks a cockpit (which is the one of the Nissan Skylines if I recall correctly), but that doesn't make it standard. What makes a standard car is that it was imported directly from GT4 and given a slight touch-up.

 

[gamerdog6482]

No it doesn't. One of the premium cars lacks a cockpit (which is the one of the Nissan Skylines if I recall correctly), but that doesn't make it standard. What makes a standard car is that it was imported directly from GT4 and given a slight touch-up.

Slight touch up is a bit harsh. They had to redo the handling in order for it to be compatible with the new engine, and they also had to determine what all the upgrades would do.

 

[MSTER232]

Slight touch up is a bit harsh. They had to redo the handling in order for it to be compatible with the new engine, and they also had to determine what all the upgrades would do.

But in reality that's what they are.

 

[Tenacious D]

I myself run with "roof cam", again hardly the most realistic viewpoint as I doubt one would be strapped to the roof of a vehicle going 160mph , but it does the job surprisingly well .

Same here. I've been known to use cockpit view and have adjusted to it fairly well. Does it make me feel like I'm in the car more? Not really, it's too low and too far back. It makes every car feel like a Lamborghini, and you're practically lying down. Roof cam for the win.

But for the sake of argument, let's say that only 5% use cockpit view. Well, that's 400,000-600,000 gamers, depending on where GT5 is in sales right now. No matter how you cut it, that's a lot of people, and any developer with a collective brain will want to keep so many people happy. But I suspect that more than a million of us use interior view because it does look amazing.

The quibbling over views though is why GT6 needs to have ALL VIEWS ADJUSTABLE. Completely adjustable, as far as aim, position, and any movement from speed, road roughness, collisions etc. Making all driver views adjustable is a MUST, in order to satisfy so many different tastes and needs.

 

[Youngun]

Aint this a GRID poll not GT, if they did a GT poll, got to be higher than 5%. Grid was harder to drive in cockpit but GT isn't.