Should license's be manditory for online play?

[Dry7123]

(Edit) "Should license tests be finished with a silver standard to be able to play/unlock online multiplayer?" is the real question.

If anything, I would rather 1st turn practicing and braking be golded to be able to play online. Stick you mid pack with a full 12 car grid going full throttle into a first turn and should you not make contact, you would be awarded more credits or a positive score rating. Racing online should be a privilege to be earned, not to be granted freely among those certain/common drivers that jump into any supercar and make us tear our own hair out 5 seconds into the race...

The way I see it, those that do race cleanly should surpass the licenses rather quickly and have nothing to complain about. As apposed to those that divebomb inside lines and "bump" you off course as you're overtaking a promising outside line.

Yes I do understand no game is perfect and every rose has it's thorns... But that's not to say that we can't improve the basic fundamentals that drivers follow and race by. What do you people think?

 

[jabofu]

I wouldnt go so far and stop people from using multiplayer who didnt completed the licenses.

A option in the lobby should filter such drivers, so you can chose to only let people in with a reasonable level of license completation.

Many people play GT just for some hours a week or month and it would not be fair to them, when they want to play some online races with their friends.

 

[Dry7123]

I wouldnt go so far and stop people from using multiplayer who didnt completed the licenses.

A option in the lobby should filter such drivers, so you can chose to only let people in with a reasonable level of license completation.

Many people play GT just for some hours a week or month and it would not be fair to them, when they want to play some online races with their friends.

You're right actually, I also didn't stop to think about the younger demographics that are also involved with gaming. Atleast some grading system that tracked your races attempted and races quit/disqualified. Atleast a percentage of some sort to filter out the rage quitters from the people who haven't raced as many days as others. Heck, I'm still hearing of people just buying gt5 for the first time, so obviously they won't be as experienced as the averge racer. Like I said, something to filter out the sour racers and to encourage new/good racers.

Heck even have a class/grading filter for rooms to enter/host. They kinda sorted that problem out with lounge rooms that only friends joined.
If I were in charge I would have integrated the lap times from the GT Academy events and put those that had the closest lap times within their own groups and just go from there.

Just put something to differentiate the bad from the new and the experienced.

 

[Brutaka]

Or they can just copy off of IRacing and use a safety rating, but instead of blocking you out from certain cars and events, it is just visible to the lobby so the host can see if your a safe enough driver.

 

[VBR]

There should be a seperate licence test for online play, one that involves driving cleanly & overtaking without making contact, one that's all about safe driving & not outright speed. That way it would teach people how to drive respectfully of others, without penalising slower drivers.

 

[Exorcet]

(Edit) "Should license tests be finished with a silver standard to be able to play/unlock online multiplayer?" is the real question.

No, that's simply annoying and unnecessary. It will also prevent new players from going online to learn from other players.

Racing online should be a privilege to be earned

Racing online is to me the entire point of the game. I don't want anything getting the way. Bad drivers aren't a problem. Intentionally disruptive drivers are, and those people can be fast or slow.

The way I see it, those that do race cleanly should surpass the licenses rather quickly and have nothing to complain about.

It's a waste of time, there is plenty to complain about.

As apposed to those that divebomb inside lines and "bump" you off course as you're overtaking a promising outside line.

Licenses won't do a thing about them.

 

[NeuroticVows]

I think there should be a separate license for online. 10 tests like the other tests.

 

[Broseph]

I don't think there should be any requirements for playing online except for having to own at least 1 car.

 

[awr117]

There should be age restricted servers. Kind of like the adult pool and kiddie pool.

 

[Exorcet]

There should be age restricted servers. Kind of like the adult pool and kiddie pool.

That's an absolutely terrible and unreliable method.

 

[PlainBlandMan]

Let everyone use multiplayer.

Restricting rooms by license would be appreciated, though.

 

[MoLiEG]

Despite how bad and rude are some guys online... restricting it would be a terrible idea... me thinks...

 

[awr117]

That's an absolutely terrible and unreliable method.

Well yes, i was being a bit sarcastic. But restrictions need to be in place. I'm all for an iRacing type rating. Allow the solid racers to run against each other. The ones that make plenty of contact can race others that like crashing.

 

[Samus]

No, not at all.

 

[Jump_Ace]

Oh man, now this is a great idea. I'd take it one step further and have room options allowing/disallowing drivers who have golded events or not.

Filter rooms based on license test results, or filter the drivers. This way I can always race with faster drivers who also have golded every event. Those who don't want to race with the super fast guys can also filter us out (best of both worlds!) This would help in weeding out the n00bs, who are more likely to drive backwards, ram people and the like. I'd fully support this idea! 👍


Jerome

 

[Earth]

Oh man, now this is a great idea. I'd take it one step further and have room options allowing/disallowing drivers who have golded events or not.

Filter rooms based on license test results, or filter the drivers. This way I can always race with faster drivers who also have golded every event. Those who don't want to race with the super fast guys can also filter us out (best of both worlds!) This would help in weeding out the n00bs, who are more likely to drive backwards, ram people and the like. I'd fully support this idea! 👍


Jerome

Only problem is not all fast drivers are clean. Ive had many see me as a threat so they take me out. Others feel racing me hard and clean is not worth their time as they're losing time to the fast guys up front, so they bump me out of the way. Even GTP drivers are guilty of this.

A clean driver should be defined by the amount of incidents he is involved in, not how fast he is.

 

[Samus]

Jerome was being sarcastic, surely?

 

[KrYPTiiKZz]

No!

 

[Jump_Ace]

Only problem is not all fast drivers are clean. Ive had many see me as a threat so they take me out. Others feel racing me hard and clean is not worth their time as they're losing time to the fast guys up front, so they bump me out of the way. Even GTP drivers are guilty of this.

A clean driver should be defined by the amount of incidents he is involved in, not how fast he is.

I meant it as a general rule of thumb. Generally, if you are fast, you are clean(er). Cleaner than beginners anyway who are just learning the tracks, where to pass and where their car can/can't fit in traffic.

But I know exactly where you are coming from Earth, following the OLR rules, or any general clean standars isn't a high priority for some.

Jerome was being sarcastic, surely?

No sarcasm, sorry buddy If there is one thing I love to see in video games, it's options, tons and tons of customizing options, filters and the like. Using license tests as an optional filter criteria would only help things imo.


Jerome

 

[Ills1999]

I wonder if real race drivers whine as much about somebody 'taking' the inside line. If you don't want someone passing you on the inside, shut the door. If you can't run a tight line, don't complain.

To the question, I think the room host should have the option to place restrictions based on licensing, level, hours played, races finished etc, limited only by imagination.

Do I think it should be a requirement for online play in general? Nope. Especially not the way licenses are doled out in GT5, they have very little to do with 'clean' driving.

 

[avens]

I wonder if real race drivers whine as much about somebody 'taking' the inside line. If you don't want someone passing you on the inside, shut the door. If you can't run a tight line, don't complain.

They do, 14 year old man.

 

[Samus]

I wonder if real race drivers whine as much about somebody 'taking' the inside line. If you don't want someone passing you on the inside, shut the door. If you can't run a tight line, don't complain.

I played GT5 online for the first time in a long time a few weeks ago and in a shuffle race this guy kept complaining because people were passing on the inside, he was adamant that it isn't allowed. It was very odd.

 

[Jump_Ace]

I wonder if real race drivers whine as much about somebody 'taking' the inside line. If you don't want someone passing you on the inside, shut the door. If you can't run a tight line, don't complain.

To the question, I think the room host should have the option to place restrictions based on licensing, level, hours played, races finished etc, limited only by imagination.

Do I think it should be a requirement for online play in general? Nope. Especially not the way licenses are doled out in GT5, they have very little to do with 'clean' driving.

I see where you are coming from, especially as there few tests with other cars. However, you do have to keep the car on the track at all times for the tests, so at least you have to abide by that.


Jerome

 

[usuhaia08]

Easy answer: Never ever!

So if we buy a new GT game am I forced to finish all licenses to play online with my friends? What about private lounges?

 

[awr117]

Easy answer: Never ever!

So if we buy a new GT game am I forced to finish all licenses to play online with my friends? What about private lounges?

Restrictions should only pertain to the public lobby.

 

[Ills1999]

I see where you are coming from, especially as there few tests with other cars. However, you do have to keep the car on the track at all times for the tests, so at least you have to abide by that.


Jerome

Yes, the tests would be a good starting point on that basis.

 

[Prototyp3]

Love to see a poll for this up on the site.

License test required for online play?
1) yes
2) no
3) lobby option

 

[Yukon]

Manditory to be able to play online? No. Can you imagine all the people that would buy it, not reading the fine print that states you must complete all the License tests before access to Multiplayer is available. It couldn't happen.

Jump Ace sums it up pretty much what I think and agree with. Filters would make for a great feature. 👍

 

[ShiftingGears]

No, that's simply annoying and unnecessary. It will also prevent new players from going online to learn from other players.


Racing online is to me the entire point of the game. I don't want anything getting the way. Bad drivers aren't a problem. Intentionally disruptive drivers are, and those people can be fast or slow.


It's a waste of time, there is plenty to complain about.


Licenses won't do a thing about them.

Agreed with everything you said.

I played GT5 online for the first time in a long time a few weeks ago and in a shuffle race this guy kept complaining because people were passing on the inside, he was adamant that it isn't allowed. It was very odd.

This. I've been kicked from lounges for either no reason or by overzealous mods for a 50/50 passing move. Any options are going to be unreliable, especially the age filter.

 

[Gran_Turismo]

No. Unless the licenses are delibreratly difficult to master and used to keep players out of high ranking online races.

Keep players away from online play is a negative thing to do.