Should Opel make it to GT 6?

[evanzo7]

Then take out your pimped MkI Golf and go hunting, evanzo... ^^

Haha plan but I'd rather a classic Ford and show them how its done

 

[Omegator24V]

Yeah, why not?! Escort Cosworth or Ford Capri II? I'd take those too!

I am a little (older ones) Opel buff...
If i can find another room to work in, i'll continue with my Project! --> Omega 3000 with Supercharger... (Till then it would be nice to drive it in GT!) ;-)

 

[evanzo7]

Yeah, why not?! Escort Cosworth or Ford Capri II? I'd take those too!

I am a little (older ones) Opel buff...
If i can find another room to work in, i'll continue with my Project! --> Omega 3000 with Supercharger... (Till then it would be nice to drive it in GT!) ;-)

I have been brought up in a family where classic Fords are a big thing.
I currently have an old Sierra as a track day car and my old man is in the process of restoring a RS2000. I am on the search for a MK2 Fiesta as well.
Old Fords and Vauxhalls have been a kind of icon where I am from and still to this day the young folk drive around in old astra's and cavalier's. I am young too but I hate vauxhalls lol

 

[Omegator24V]

It's about the same with me... My Dad had quite a few Opel!
Kadett B Coupe, Kadett D, Record, Ascona, Vectra, Omega...
(But i don't recall all the Vauxhall Name's of the Car's! ^^)

 

[Flaco13]

Old Fords and Vauxhalls have been a kind of icon where I am from and still to this day the young folk drive around in old astra's and cavalier's. I am young too but I hate vauxhalls lol

Same here, they are icons. And yes I know a lot of young folks that rather get the older cars like mkII Golfs, Escorts and Astras than the new stuff because the old one weren't packed with electronic.

I hate Ford's as much as you hate vauxhall/opel, lol. But like I posted before 'who wouldnt want to race their biggest rival?

therefore I honestly don't understand posts like 'i vote no, rather see some more VW's'.(but if that is really their opinion i accept it)

@Flaco:

I'd wish for alot of Opel/Vauxhall... But just to name a few:
Kadett C (+Racetrim)
Kadett E GSI
Ascona and/or Manta 400
Lotus Omega (Premium!)
Omega 500 (Road going Version of the DTM Car)
Maybe even the normal Omega 3000 (Have one myself.-Just needs to be restored!)

Also agree with previous Posters: All the '90 DTM (Alfa, Merc, and so on) Would be cool to have a Classic DTM Race Series!!

And then the V8 Race versions: Astra V8 and Omega V8 (Jonny Ceccotto)

That's about it for a Start! ;-D

Couldn't agree more.

How dare he to put a pic of that Alfa in here? lol jk. I'd like DTM cars in premium too. But all models from a certain year, with all the different liveries (It worked with JGTC!?)

The car I'd really like the most to be added is Insigna OPC/VXR
but the list would go on and on...

 

[Flaco13]

I'm astonished this thread has survived

I know, I'm surprised too. Keeping in mind this wasn't the best platform to seek for some love for the brand,(not to many gtp'ers come from the countrys where Opel is known and loved) the poll is going really good aswell, great progress. Thanks again to all posters and voters!

No one has mentioned the old Vauxhall Chevette HSR

I think it was but thank you for the pic's, the very positive thing I can take out of this thread already is that I learn about older Vauxhall's here. Didn't know to much about them before.

p.s. I pushed 'post reply' button too fast, sorry for doublepost

 

[Omegator24V]

@Nurburgthing:

I think i did mention them... Just the Opel one!

Kadett C GT/E:

http://www.hms.dk/modules/PNphpBB2/files/opel-kadett-c-coupe-gt-e-1977-.jpg

Great thing! And still very strong in Hillclimbs around here!!

 

[monkeyfoeva21]

Personally, why should they not be included in the New Car Dealership? But also I would like to see Polyphony Digital get things straight and get the standard cars upgraded first before they think about new cars.

 

[cally-dave]

I would love for the range toppers to be included, weather it's a Nova GSi, Corsa GSi, etc, yes they had a bad reputation - but that is in the past now, the tables have gone full circle, and are back at cars going down the OEM+ look, instead of tacky fibreglass bodykits, lexus lights etc

 

[evanzo7]

Same here, they are icons. And yes I know a lot of young folks that rather get the older cars like mkII Golfs, Escorts and Astras than the new stuff because the old one weren't packed with electronic.

I hate Ford's as much as you hate vauxhall/opel, lol. But like I posted before 'who wouldnt want to race their biggest rival?

therefore I honestly don't understand posts like 'i vote no, rather see some more VW's'.(but if that is really their opinion i accept it)

It wouldn't be so bad having them as Premiums but only if they add the Classic Fords
We would be able to have good old fashioned British Showdown, im sure all over the country it was Ford vs Vauxhall.

 

[TokoTurismo]

Yes. In a honesty I would love to see Opel in the NCD.

 

[Flaco13]

I'd also love to have this:

Opel Kapitän (Captain) 1959

 

[jpressley101]

This would be nice. Swaggalicious historic's, and the Speedster is a pretty fresh car. But in all honesty, I would prefer that PD spend its time in releasing some more REAL circuits.

 

[Flaco13]

This would be nice. Swaggalicious historic's, and the Speedster is a pretty fresh car. But in all honesty, I would prefer that PD spend its time in releasing some more REAL circuits.

Yep, at that time GM had a positive influence on them, you can tell as german cars at that time where everything but swaggalicious!
As much as I dedicate myself to this thread and of course, represent my favourite Car maker I still agree with you, we want more real circuits. But, maybe they convert a speedster to premium and give us one new(er) model to have in the NCD, and then concentrate with all their minds, bodys and souls on Bathurst, Hockenheim and Silverstone???

 

[Skygrasper550]

Yes. I think Opel deserves a spot in the NCD, because PD has had Opel since GT2. The Speedster , Speedster Turbo, Astra OPC and Astra GTC would make for great additions to the Premium lineup. 👍👍

 

[tpark103]

Somebody brings up a good point!! Every manufacture renames there products for different markets. We all know that the GT86,Scion FR-S, and Toyota GT are the same car. That holds true for more models than than most people aware of. So if we are going to do it for Toyota, let's do it for General Motors, Ford, Volkswagen, Mercedes, etc. I now we have a few standard models, but let's step it up and get some know stuff.




Wait a second, am I begging for new cars? I better whine in a different thread! Hahaha

 

[Flaco13]

tpark103, I don't really understand your post.
Can you explain it? If you don't mind.

 

[GT-Roadie]

1982 was the last Rally WM won by a 2WD car an Opel Ascona 400 Rally and his driver Walter Röhrl. The 4WD era began after this year.

 

[Monatsende]

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There's so much wrong with this picture though.....

I know what you mean: the swimming trunks

But to have them vintage Opel models like Admiral, Diplomat, Commodore, Kadett, GT, Manta would be awesome as I have seen them driving on the streets - live and in colour. Now they are young-/oldtimer highly sought after in good condition.

EDIT: GT6 is under development...

 

[Flaco13]

1982 was the last Rally WM won by a 2WD car an Opel Ascona 400 Rally and his driver Walter Röhrl. The 4WD era began after this year.

OMG, this video is giving me goose bumps. 'Opel dominated...' Audi 4wd's and Porsche MR cars, breathtaking!
It's from '82, my year of birth, how I wish we had the Rothmans Opel Ascona 400 of that year in the game. I always get the Audi on my Birthday, logicaly.

This car was the reason my father bought an Ascona in '83, although he is a Mercedes-Man.

This video posted here by a Porsche fan honors me somewhat, Thank you for that!!!

 

[Flaco13]

2013 Opel Adam, as an OPC Version maybe?

Definately better looking than the Up!, knowing PD I wouldn't be surprised if we would see the Up! coming to the game sooner or later, so...

 

[Omegator24V]

Agreed, Flaco!
And as a Sideshot the Astra X-treme?! ^^

http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z3969/Opel-Astra-Extreme.aspx

 

[FT-1]

The ADAM looks very stylish, I'd love to see it as DLC!

 

[Flaco13]

to compare:
VW up!

Opel Adam

I know wich I would choose. (Edit: to buy for my wife!

 

[analog]

Actually I prefer the rear end of the Up (front looks a bit dull to me) to the overall styling of the Adam which appears a bit like an Opel-version of the Fiat 500 (overall proportions of the shape, detailing is obviously different).
The Up actually looks like a Volkswagen, the Opel looks like a retro version of an Opel that never existed (they don't really have a classic as iconic or 'cute' as the 500, Mini, Beetle, 2CV, etc.) and I'd rather they'd make a truly modern small car instead of jumping on the, very profitable no doubt, retro-bandwagon.
It's not bad looking though, so which one would I choose? Simple, a Fiat Panda.

 

[Flaco13]

Actually I prefer the rear end of the Up (front looks a bit dull to me) to the overall styling of the Adam which appears a bit like an Opel-version of the Fiat 500 (overall proportions of the shape, detailing is obviously different).
The Up actually looks like a Volkswagen, the Opel looks like a retro version of an Opel that never existed (they don't really have a classic as iconic or 'cute' as the 500, Mini, Beetle, 2CV, etc.) and I'd rather they'd make a truly modern small car instead of jumping on the, very profitable no doubt, retro-bandwagon.
It's not bad looking though, so which one would I choose? Simple, a Fiat Panda.

I can't quite agree with all of what you said, the retro look of the Adam is most probably aiming to the Corsa A:

And by the history of it, I'd consider it an iconic classic. Weather it is cute or not is up to each, but sales statistics plus the fact that a large percentage of buyers were women (for the first time an Opel achieved that), makes me think of it as pretty 'cute'.

The Corsa D hasn't got to much of it's old sisters, so the Adam appears to be the 'new Corsa'.

 

[analog]

I know you're a huge Opel fan but claiming the Corsa A is an iconic car is stretching it a bit too far, those flared wheel arches on the 3-door model were the only thing that for a very brief moment in the eighties made it look slightly different.
You certainly can't seriously claim (even with a biased mindset) it even approaches cars like the Mini, Beetle, 2CV, 500 or even the Renault 4 for overall quirkiness and being unique (even if it's for all the wrong reasons).

You're right that what's considered cute is highly subjective but what's wrong with acknowledging Opel doesn't really have one of those truly iconic (by which I mean it's considered that by most people, even those with no real interest in cars) small cars in its history?
Most brands don't, Opel is better known for different reasons, in fact the only model I can think of which might inspire a retro treatment (even though I hate retro) for a new small car is the early fifties Olympia, but again it isn't really iconic for most people (and can't really be described as cute, it looks a bit too mature and austere for that).

At least it has a better name than Adam (which sounds a bit daft, but then again so does Ferrari Enzo), and with the summer olympics just around the corner, perhaps better for short term marketing reasons.

 

[Flaco13]

I know you're a huge Opel fan but claiming the Corsa A is an iconic car is stretching it a bit too far, those flared wheel arches on the 3-door model were the only thing that for a very brief moment in the eighties made it look slightly different.
You certainly can't seriously claim (even with a biased mindset) it even approaches cars like the Mini, Beetle, 2CV, 500 or even the Renault 4 for overall quirkiness and being unique (even if it's for all the wrong reasons).

You're right that what's considered cute is highly subjective but what's wrong with acknowledging Opel doesn't really have one of those truly iconic (by which I mean it's considered that by most people, even those with no real interest in cars) small cars in its history?
Most brands don't, Opel is better known for different reasons, in fact the only model I can think of which might inspire a retro treatment (even though I hate retro) for a new small car is the early fifties Olympia, but again it isn't really iconic for most people (and can't really be described as cute, it looks a bit too mature and austere for that).


At least it has a better name than Adam (which sounds a bit daft, but then again so does Ferrari Enzo), and with the summer olympics just around the corner, perhaps better for short term marketing reasons.

You might be right I am in fact biased, I try the best I can to stay objective though

What I don't understand is why must a car, to be called 'iconic', be unique only? Aren't there iconic cars that where made after others, to compete? You are kind of saying a T-Bird cannot be iconic (it is not unique, concept was done before by GM in the Corvette) or any other Muscle car cannot be called iconic except for the Mustang, because it was the first, and: 'for a very brief moment in the sixties', unique.

Any car is unique, (except some Chinese obvious copies maybe). Reason to call a car 'iconi' to me, would be the sales numbers (either very high or very low/limited editions for example) and popularity in past and present and I'm sorry the Corsa A,to me, fits in there.

 

[analog]

There are indeed several reasons a car becomes iconic, and you're right they don't have to be unique in concept but those muscle cars you mentioned appeal perhaps on an emotional level or due to their cultural significance and that specific period of US history.

Mostly though, a car (or anything) is called iconic because it has some sort of universal mass appeal or because it's perceived to be iconic within a certain subculture (for most the Toyota AE86 looks just like any other boxy eighties Japanese car yet for those 'in the know' it's regarded as something really special).

The current trend for, well, trendy retro-looking small European cars is largely based on very famous predecessors which are known by a very wide audience.
And the Opel Adam (although strictly not retro perhaps) is clearly aimed to tap into that market without having one of those famous names like Mini/500/etc.
That's all I was trying to say basically.

 

[cally-dave]

The Corsa A / Vauxhall Nova is becoming an icon, especially the rare GSi/Sport models, which are starting to become very rare these days!

These little beauty's are starting to be snapped up and restored to their originally glory, and are fetching silly money for them! A mate of mine has 3 Nova's, 1 is a 2litre Throttle Bodied, wide arch rally inspired beast, the other is a very tidy SR replica with a very punchy 1.4 16v engine - Faster than any C20XE "redtop" car off the line!! And for the end of summer, his other Nova will be Jamaica Yellow, with a VERY tasty 1.3L engine with Irmscher induction etc!

I can see where you guys are going, saying that the Adam is essentially the Corsa A/Nova's replacement, and I have to agree, it's the only car that makes sense for the job. I'm not too sure on the rear as yet, or the way the roof colours go against the black glass of the windows, but that red Adam up the top of the page looks the job!