Should PD release GT5.5 BD, and should we have to pay for it?
- Thread starter AGNT009
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It's logic like this that is the reason we have so much legal red tape and why the local councils never let anyone have fun anymore because someone might get hurt and sue.
You have the right to return it and get your money back if the store you purchased it from gave you that option upon purchase. If you didn't, that's your fault.
- 4,323
It's logic like this that makes it necessary to have so much legal red tape because people are constantly spouting off like they know but completely missing the basic fact:
You cannot blame the consumer for not protecting himself in the purchase when the information needed to protect himself was either not available or mislead him.
The very idea that somehow the consumer needs to be responsible when he is lied to by the manufacturer (either direclty or lie of omission) is exactly why we have so many laws and consumer protection rules. Without them people like you would sell out your fellow consumer on flawed logic - or even worse manage to become the producer and totally screw over the consumer.
Store: 3 Goats and 2 puppies for 1 cow
Joe: Deal, here is the cow, give me the sack of goats and puppies.
Store: Here you go.
Joe: This sack only has 3 goats, there are no puppies.
Store: I don't owe you anything, we had a contract.
Joe: You broke the contract! I want my cow back!
Store: Sorry, we have a no return on opened sacks of goats policy, it's your own fault you didn't buy from someone with a return policy.
It didn't make sense in the times of goats and cows and it still doesn't.
You can get your money back.
What you want is to keep the product and them to fix the game to your standards. I'm pretty sure you'll find nowhere in the legal stuff that comes with the game do you have such rights. That's part of the contract when you purchase the product and by purchasing you agree to that.
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- xNEVER-ONEx
Not gonna happen. I don't think this game will ever get to the level many of us want it to get. Lets just hope GT6 improves on GT5's failings.
It mainly depends on how the developers wants to deliver the updates,a while ago(in BF2 pc days)there were patches from 1.05 to 1.30 to battlefield 2(I think),and then this patches were unified in a single huge update version called 1.41,which contain more fixes and improvements from other updates,of course this package was huge(600MB for a game of 3.xxGB)but it contain all the updates,besides BF2 editions from 2008 contained this update.
I do agree that there should be a "golden version" after 4 or 5 fixes,but expect a new "version of the game" for exchange in retailers for free,well that is prettyto be honest,a golden disc will accomplish that task.
And on aside note I just reported this thread because is part of the "DLC on GT5" thread and such title suggest an "imaginative" release,and a "imaginative" price for it,so is not a good point of discussion.
watch out for the GT5 police...
- 4,323
Maybe in Australia you can, in the US almost no store will return an open game package other than to swap it out for the exact same game.
Oh and a for legal stuff? No legal mumbo jumbo anywhere can override false marketing laws. Again maybe different in Autstralia, but in the US the legal precident is you may not misrepresent what you sell. It is absolutely my legal right to demand they make right on their sale, and no legalese can override that.
Tell me, does it really make sense to you that someone should be able to sell something and unless they SPECIFICALLY SAY "if we lied to you about what's in this box we will make it right" then it's ok for them to not actually put in the box what they said would be in the box?
If that's the kind of logic that works these days, then this world is really headed in a bad direction...
Is weird to make statements as facts,besides pay $60 for the game that was advertised then get what was advertised and then criticize the product is something illogical isn't it?
Even initial PS3 models came with 20GB of HD space,the console was designed with online functions in mind,and all game platforms follows update PC based structure to fix-improve games,now state that GT5 has an awful lots of problems is incorrect,since you can complete career modes and all other modes without any problem(put fallout 3 in perspective),and the games sales shows that the game is selling well,even with bad reviews.
So this is just another case of an angry customer requesting more of what was advertised,everything that was advertised in the game is in the game,via update they add more,so what is it, disappointed with GT5,that is normal,cry about it like tents of threads around here,well that is something that people should get over,since you have the choose of buy the game or not,and since in the box you can read the features of the game,and you can deliver the game back to the store where you bought it if you didn't like it,after all you were the one who pay the 60 bucks right?.
And as I said before,if you can afford a PS3 device,you can afford a internet connection,is a piece of electronic as many other and I seriously doubt that someone who bought GT5,TV,and a PS3 doesn't have internet connection or internet access,even 256kps will be enough to cover GT5 updates and even mobile internet connections have at least 256kps connection as a minimum,think of someone in a remote house in Siberia playing GT5 and then complaining about the lack of features because of his lacks of internet connections,and then complaining about the lack of features on the internet is something very unlikely.
I don't feel like downloading a 1GB patch every month. What if my connection drops? Or they should fix the patching system so that it only downloads the latest patch and not the whole history. I don't think they'll do that 5.5 disc thing you mentioned. It's too big of a logistics issue, besides have you saved your GT5 disc receipt?
lolwut? They're not improving the game yet, they're patching/completing it. Big difference. There's probably a long while to go before they start enhancing the game.
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Is weird to make statements as facts,besides pay $60 for the game that was advertised then get what was advertised and then criticize the product is something illogical isn't it?
Right there you already sank your whole post... the game did not come as advertised... there are things on the box and in the manual that just weren't there when it hit shelves.
This is ignoring the fact Kaz said himself the game is infinished.
All was there,in the box(both US and JP)did advertise damage (which occur with rally cars)before all updates,no mention of mechanical damage was done in the box and it said that it requires internet connection,so what else wasn't in the game that was advertised?
The game is unfinished but not miss-advertised,check the box and you will see what I'm all about.
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- Demolisher_1
They need to keep the patches coming... they need to atone for their sins.
I've played from GT1 and although every release has it's own demons, this game takes the cake by a country mile. The patches are at least a step in the right direction by admitting they have some issues to address.
It's so frustrating to see so much care put into the core gameplay and graphic detail and so little logic put into all the other aspects. It's like master craftsmen designed half of the game in one room and the secretaries at PD designed the rest in another. Then one day before release they got together and burned their collective works onto CD's for immediate shipment.
I've played from GT1 and although every release has it's own demons, this game takes the cake by a country mile. The patches are at least a step in the right direction by admitting they have some issues to address.
It's so frustrating to see so much care put into the core gameplay and graphic detail and so little logic put into all the other aspects. It's like master craftsmen designed half of the game in one room and the secretaries at PD designed the rest in another. Then one day before release they got together and burned their collective works onto CD's for immediate shipment.
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Mechanical damage (not specified but Kaz said in interviews he was putting damage in to help make races clean)
Invite friend directly from game (back of box)
Bspec online against other Bspecs
Leaderboards
Matchmaking
Cr for online lobbies
Bspec anywhere
Then there are any number of lies of omission and not enough detail to make an educated decision (ie what exactly will standard cars look like - turns out they are not all the same quality at all, could not know that).
Again, Kaz himself said the game was released unfinished. That's really the only thing it should take to settle that debate.
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Gesh your rude. Well I am sick of people complaining about other people complaining. You saw the title of the thread before you posted. You weren't forced to read his post. I was not happy with what we got Nov 24th either. I feel everyone's pain that is upset. I just don't make new threads about them
Yeah that is pretty harsh. You said it yourself that some may not be privileged as others. Many people are on budgets, and not everyone has as need for internet yet alone may not even have a computer. 20-30 bucks may not be much to some of us but to others it can make a big difference. It sounds like you have no respect for others that don't make what you do to afford certain things that you can.
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