Skylines... Worth new, what one?
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Never go for R33 GT-R.
I have got about 10 GT-Rs in hand,
including a R34 V-Spec II Nur, M-Spec Nur, M-Spec, V-Spec N1, and a normal R34 GT-R, and also the safety car from GT4.
and then a LM R33 Road-going version;
plus two R32 in different colours, and a R32 V-Spec N1.
My pick would be to get a V-Spec N1 of either R32 or R34,
32 has got a lighter weight, but 34 will surely deliver better speed.
The choice is yours.
I have got about 10 GT-Rs in hand,
including a R34 V-Spec II Nur, M-Spec Nur, M-Spec, V-Spec N1, and a normal R34 GT-R, and also the safety car from GT4.
and then a LM R33 Road-going version;
plus two R32 in different colours, and a R32 V-Spec N1.
My pick would be to get a V-Spec N1 of either R32 or R34,
32 has got a lighter weight, but 34 will surely deliver better speed.
The choice is yours.
- 2,571
If the only experience you have of GT-R33s is the frankly awful LM version, then I'll let you off that rather incorrect comment.
We've proved that an R33 of equal power output (say, 500bhp) is almost always faster than its R32 counterpart, and respectively the R34 will be faster than that. On maximum tune, the order stays the same, as the R32's weight advantage is mostly lost by the percentages game on which the weight reduction works - torque then fills up the gap, allowing the R33 to be quicker. The huge power of the R34, put down by a more advanced ATTESA-ETS, puts it further ahead.
Saying simply 'never go for R33 GT-R' when you don't actually have an RB26DETT-engined R33 is not the most informed opinion
The R33 does, in my opinion, create a balance between technology, weight and power that neither the R34 (too much power and assistance) nor the R32 (not enough power to go with the direct feel) get quite right.
DE
We've proved that an R33 of equal power output (say, 500bhp) is almost always faster than its R32 counterpart, and respectively the R34 will be faster than that. On maximum tune, the order stays the same, as the R32's weight advantage is mostly lost by the percentages game on which the weight reduction works - torque then fills up the gap, allowing the R33 to be quicker. The huge power of the R34, put down by a more advanced ATTESA-ETS, puts it further ahead.
Saying simply 'never go for R33 GT-R' when you don't actually have an RB26DETT-engined R33 is not the most informed opinion
The R33 does, in my opinion, create a balance between technology, weight and power that neither the R34 (too much power and assistance) nor the R32 (not enough power to go with the direct feel) get quite right.
DE
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Have we?
It depends, I'd say...One more thing, fully tuned the output of the R32 and R33 doesn't differ that much - only a few bhp separates them. They both are good cars in their own rights, but they're made for different driving styles. The R33 is noticably looser making tight cornering easier in a way but the R32 has that direct feel you mentioned, and that's the thing that makes it the winner in my eyes. The lap times are pretty equal, only half a second or so on every track I've tried, so it's down to personal preferences to make the decision.
What I'm trying to underline here is that saying "Never go for R33 GT-R" is as intelligent as saying "do not accept cash given for free". The car is good, the LM Edition just does it no justice. And if you're going for a GT-R; always pick the V-Spec or V-SpecII if possible - you can't go wrong with the top of the range models. 👍
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- 2,571
I seem to recall that, when you tried out my car, you found it to be a bit quicker (if not, a lot easier to adapt to) than yours in that particular challenge? My comment was, of course, referring to the performance of the two cars with the same driver. 
As for the term 'power' in that post, I should really have thought a bit more about that - I meant it to include both engine power (bhp, kW) and torque (ft/lb, Nm), as in, the power of the engine as opposed to 'engine power'. I'm not sure I understand that rather twisted explanation myself, but suffice to say I worded it badly and meant to say that the R33 has a torque advantage.
What you say about driving styles is, of course, completely correct. The only way one can really find which Skyline generation suits best is to simply test them. You can't draw a line and say which is best (Not to say that I won't defend the R33 against all comers!).
DE
As for the term 'power' in that post, I should really have thought a bit more about that - I meant it to include both engine power (bhp, kW) and torque (ft/lb, Nm), as in, the power of the engine as opposed to 'engine power'. I'm not sure I understand that rather twisted explanation myself, but suffice to say I worded it badly and meant to say that the R33 has a torque advantage.
GT-R34 M-Spec?Greycap
What you say about driving styles is, of course, completely correct. The only way one can really find which Skyline generation suits best is to simply test them. You can't draw a line and say which is best (Not to say that I won't defend the R33 against all comers!
).DE
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Oh, let me explain the power thing. The truth is, the R32 V-SpecII (at least in the 500 bhp form) has very similar torque figures to those of the R33. You were probably fooled by the S-Tune that has about as much torque as a chainsaw.
And what comes to the M-Spec, that's not top of the range when it comes to performance...
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And what comes to the M-Spec, that's not top of the range when it comes to performance...
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- 2,571
The whole 'power advantage' thing was at full tune, not our 500bhp challenge - where, in fact, I had only 480-ish brake horsepower
I know the S-Tune's engine really isn't made for torque (ie, has almost none).
I've yet to mention the advantages of a six-speed gearbox
DE
I know the S-Tune's engine really isn't made for torque (ie, has almost none).
I've yet to mention the advantages of a six-speed gearbox
DE
- 2,571
Well, quite, but NisMo gave it rather an advantage in that section, don't you think?
Oh, if only we had a NisMo R33 that doesn't have a hopeless engine in it...
DE
Oh, if only we had a NisMo R33 that doesn't have a hopeless engine in it...
DE
