Smarter AI
- Thread starter cletus 669
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- Toronto
Road Rash? lol
GTPSPs Ai is already a bit smarter than previous Ais so Im 100% that gt5s Ais will be even smarter.
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- mashupkingz85
Btw if you think the GT5p AI is bad, Anyone played GRID lately?
is that you can not adjust diffculty. In forza 3 i can have nice fights with AI when i put AI difficulty to hard.- 791
- cletus2344
torontoml
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- torontoml
I must not being doing it right but all the happens when I change the AI is that the cars change, they progressively get faster and faster cars. Such as if I take a Vette out with like the lowest possible AI, I end up racing against Suzuki Cappuccino's and not just a bunch of similarly powered cars just with stupid AI.
And then maybe I want to take a Evo out, against difficult AI but I end up against Ferrari 599 and similar cars, so I don't really have a chance.
So am I doing something wrong or is this just how it is?
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- SĂŁo Paulo
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^ That's how the AI "difficulty" works. It doesn't change the skill of the AI, but the cars they are driving.
However, the difficulty of the race can be altered drastically by changing your car. If the AI is too easy, get a slower car or tune your own to make it slower. If you want to take a look at how hard the AI actually is, try the lotus event. It's in their showroom and you can only use the elise 111R. The AI will be driving the same car. Try to beat it with standard settings (no power or weight tuning) which is the settings the AI is using. I've beaten all the events without much problem, but if you put me in the same car as the AI, there's not much I can do
However, the difficulty of the race can be altered drastically by changing your car. If the AI is too easy, get a slower car or tune your own to make it slower. If you want to take a look at how hard the AI actually is, try the lotus event. It's in their showroom and you can only use the elise 111R. The AI will be driving the same car. Try to beat it with standard settings (no power or weight tuning) which is the settings the AI is using. I've beaten all the events without much problem, but if you put me in the same car as the AI, there's not much I can do
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I think what torton is saying is that he would like the opportunity to race against better skilled drivers in AI with any car of any tuning he chooses which doesn't seem like it should be so hard as that's basically what happens on the PSP.
I agree it kind of sucks that you can't test your mettle with the machine you just spent hours tuning to perfection because the AI is stuck at one level and the only option to get competition with that car is to tune it back down again... and while online is an option, as pointed out above, online is not exactly full of skilled an respectable drivers...
I agree it kind of sucks that you can't test your mettle with the machine you just spent hours tuning to perfection because the AI is stuck at one level and the only option to get competition with that car is to tune it back down again... and while online is an option, as pointed out above, online is not exactly full of skilled an respectable drivers...
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- mashupkingz85
Yeah but (i know this sounds silly) wouldn't that increase the amount of rubber banding in Gran turismo? i mean thats how most developers make their AI harder to beat...
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Yeah I think we would want it done without rubberbanding. For instance maybe the AI has some kind of randomizer set so that at each braking point it decides how close to the ideal braking point it hits it's brakes.
For weak AI let it randomly choose a point 50ft too early to 50ft too late... sometimes it will still nail it, but often it will pick a poor braking point causing it to go in too slow or go wide.
As you ramp up the AI, reduce the range which the braking spot can be in, so on hard difficulty it will hit it's brakes within 5 feet of the ideal spot.
This means on the hard difficultly you will have to draft like mad and really hit your corners to overtake just like in real driving.
Similar random things could be built in to all facets (ie how close to the apex it starts accelerating, how well it corrects for bumpy roads etc) to make it act more dynamic and simply tighten down the range that it can miss it's mark on any one of them as the difficulty cranks up.
No need for rubberbanding, on hard difficulty the AI is literally driving about the best possible race it can, and on weak easy it's driving a really sloppy race. Then match it's cars performance to your cars performance whwatever that may be... end result, equal machines and it comes down to the driver.
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- mashupkingz85
oh ok now you put it that way it doesn't seem like rubber banding is needed.. having said that i REALLY hope rubber banding is removed from GT, in fact last night i was racing in the Lupo cup on Fuji speedway, all equaly tuned cars, I had installed a S1 turbo kit, i was far out in front, all of a sudden 2 lupos come out of nowhere and overtook me! also having said that PD Started the game From scratch so that does give me hope for better AI.
