So now we can "bribe our way to victory"? (PRICES REVEALED, SEE OP)

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lancia delta hf
Now that i am aware of this buy credits feature i am more concerned than i was before have certainly been put off buying it without seeing what the score is from others first, Despite its flaws i was getting excited and ready to pre-order it but i refuse to support companies who dont want to improve amd i think the core gameplay should have been the priority, My experience with GT5 and now this thread makes what i said very much about GT6 for me untill i see its not the case
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Ok, later.
 
eran0004
I'm taking on board
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You say you're taking it on board but then you ask this question..


So tell me, how will it effect your game that someone else is able to purchase credits?
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which shows you clearly are not taking on baord what issues people are having, Instead of Pd making the game with a certain idea in mind, For gt7 if not gt6 they may make the game in mind with selling virtual credits for real cash, Hence not forcing people to pay for virtual money but making the game so players are compelled to buy virtual money by making the game a very slow progress by giving out low credits, Before the 1st update for GT5 you could dupe any car and people on here use to cry about it "its not fair" "they should earn it blah blah" which i found laughble and wasnt shy in saying so, I coouldnt care less what people do if it doesnt effect my game play in anyway, This selling credits could shape the mould for the next GT not in a good way so it does effect my play, Although i just may be done with this franchise depending on GT6 and any potential rivals on Ps4

but I don't agree with it.
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Its not something you can disagree on, Its my concern, You may not share my concern but its not an opinion
 
wowbaggerBR
Every game that had microtransactions that I know of are designed to enforce people to use real money.

That "you don't need to use it if you don't want to" is just naive.
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The whole business case of Guild Wars 2 as a subscription-free MMORPG is predicated upon microtransactions, and my wife and I have been playing for a year without having to buy anything extra. Forza Motorsport 4 and Forza Horizon have the "Tokens" system, and I never even took advantage of the ones I was given for getting the Limited Collector's Editions. Just by playing normally, the Forza games swamped me with more credits than I could spend.

It has the potential to be a slippery slope, for sure, but so far there have been lots of games with microtransactions that do nothing to force your hand.
 
In seriousness, what is 7 million credits going to do for you in a 350pp sunday cup race? You going to deck out your Honda Fitt with stage 4 turbo or something? Don't get how it ruins your experience if it is you who is responsible for purchasing the dlc or not.
 
Wolfe
It has the potential to be a slippery slope, for sure, but so far there have been lots of games with microtransactions that do nothing to force your hand.
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As long as Sony and PD keep this in mind and don't "force my hand" my enthusiasm will remain.
 
CorvetteConquer
I hope we can someday we can buy a new developer ;)
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This has come about because of the people that constantly insult a developer for not being like the other developers.

You can buy another developer, but only after you buy an xbox and xbox steering wheel.
 
lancia delta hf
Instead of Pd making the game with a certain idea in mind, For gt7 if not gt6 they may make the game in mind with selling virtual credits for real cash, Hence not forcing people to pay for virtual money but making the game so players are compelled to buy virtual money by making the game a very slow progress by giving out low credits, Before the 1st update for GT5 you could dupe any car and people on here use to cry about it "its not fair" "they should earn it blah blah" which i found laughble and wasnt shy in saying so, I coouldnt care less what people do if it doesnt effect my game play in anyway, This selling credits could shape the mould for the next GT not in a good way so it does effect my play, Although i just may be done with this franchise depending on GT6 and any potential rivals on Ps4

Its not something you can disagree on, Its my concern, You may not share my concern but its not an opinion
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Is it a possible scenario? Well, yes.
Is there any evidence of it happening? No.

You're saying that selling credits for money is a bad move - it is an opinion. One with which I disagree.
 
Also another arguement can made for having to pay for credits when you should just have an option to have access to everything anyway, I was going to get the pre order thus i would of had a million credits but would not use it as i like to play career modes, If i buy GT6 and A-spec is the same as it always has been or worse the same as GT5 im going to be bored very quick like within an hour or 2 so i'll have 2 options, buy credits with real money to race cars i enjoy online, Or put GT6 aside and waste my £40+ i just spent on it.

So if theres an arguement to be made for people with no time to grind so buying credits is a good option then theres an arguement to be made on why i cant play the whole game i just spent £40 without having to grind if i dont have time and without having to further splash out any more money, After i just spent 40 quid so i should be able to play it how i want


eran0004
Is it a possible scenario? Well, yes.
Is there any evidence of it happening? No.

You're saying that selling credits for money is a bad move - it is an opinion. One with which I disagree.
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Its "my" concern, Thats not an opinion, Its not a bad move, Its a bad sign for us if its a success (my opinion), Its a dispicable model to basically take money for nothing (my opinion), I mean they are giving me the option to pay to get more cars after i've just spent hard cash on the game instead of offering me the option to unlock whatever i want for no charge, If you buy dlc you are paying for someones work, For extra credits you are getting robbed
 
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I could care less for the fact that they're adding microtransactions; let those people build their car collection and go online, driving around a racetrack like it was a parking lot. They're not disturbing anyone else's experience, neither are the microtransactions for that matter. The thing that would worry me is, as previously stated, the game would have nerfed payouts that would eventually cave a player into the microtransactions due to grinding or not having a steady source of Credit income from playing the game normally.

Another factor I am concerned for is the variety of online races and lobbies. I still would like to race others' go-karts, kei cars, and go rallying/off-roading, not have the selection of online lobbies flooded with sports/supercar rooms just so others can run around showing off their collection...
 
IMO this is similar to what other companies have been doing with their instant Unlock All Cars packs. People with money and no time will now be able to enjoy all the cars they want. Those who prefer earning their cars the hard way (including me) will not even consider this method. Why pay more for content that's already on the disc and paid for?

As for ruining online, it wouldn't make much difference really. Usually the players who buy instant unlock packs aren't very good. If you're a good driver then you'll be good regardless of buying the credits or not. You'll just be able to drive the cars you want sooner. It's a win-win scenario.

For PD, just think about what they could use with all the extra money. They could hire more people to model cars & tracks. We might get Top Gear, F1, WRC, and the DeltaWing back. Who knows, maybe they'll finally be able to outbid EA and finally get PORSCHE for GT7 :drool:
 
lancia delta hf
Its "my" concern, Thats not an opinion, Its not a bad move, Its a bad sign for us if its a success (my opinion), Its a dispicable model to basically take money for nothing (my opinion), I mean they are giving me the option to pay to get more cars after i've just spent hard cash on the game instead of offering me the option to unlock whatever i want for no charge, If you buy dlc you are paying for someones work, For extra credits you are getting robbed
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On the contrary, your money will support the production as a whole. And it's no different to purchasing a DLC car. Let's say there's a DLC car sold for 1$ and it's being purchased by 1 000 000 people. Did it cost $ 1 000 000 to make that car? Probably not. Most of the money made from the sale would go to support the production as a whole, not that specific content you bought.

And there's a lot of work you're paying nothing for. Servers and updates. If you strictly only wants to pay for actual job, then they should charge a fee for providing servers and updates. Right?
 
trustjab
I like cheeseburgers. Maybe McDonalds will have a Vision GT dlc car?
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Vision GT: "I'm Lovin' it"
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lancia delta hf
So if theres an arguement to be made for people with no time to grind so buying credits is a good option then theres an arguement to be made on why i cant play the whole game i just spent £40 without having to grind if i dont have time and without having to further splash out any more money, After i just spent 40 quid so i should be able to play it how i want
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This is a really good point. When I buy GT6, what am actually buying? The privilege to traverse the rigors of A-Spec? Or the privilege to use what's on the disc?

Adding micro transactions really muddies the waters on this issue. Time was when you had to "earn" your cars through A-Spec, but if I can now go out and spend (say) 5 real world dollars on a Ferrari (avoiding the unlock game mechanic), doesn't it beg the obvious question - didn't I already buy it?
 
Unless there is confirmation that this completely affects gameplay (Forcing you to buy your way through the game), I'm still not worried nor convinced of the doom and gloom. Ok so Rockstar did it abit dirty with their microtransactions, doesn't necessarily guarantee it will happen with PD.
 
@machschnel Who cares if you can buy it with dlc credit? You can buy it the easy way or the regular way. The more expensive way or the regular game priced way. If you pay any attention to the numerous screen shots posted and you will see that your Ferrari is useless in the beginning events as they're limited to certain PP values.
 

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