Space In General

Awesome picture Dennisch!

I thought this picture was pretty stunning:
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It's of the star Zeta Ophiuchi, and it's as much desktop background worthy star if I have ever seen.[/QUOTE]

Also nice! I made a cleaner 1080p wallpaper out of it, maybe some of you like it:
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I have ALWAYS wished for NASA to be able to go into other planets, go onto there surface, or atleast let us see what's beneath the clouds. Earth like planets, there is around 17 Billion of them apparently, one of them is called the HD 40307g, which I seen a picture of and it really does look like earth, clouds, land, water. I have ALWAYS wonderd what is on the land and beneath the ocean, there could be Gigantic spiders like 8 legged freaks running around, extremely weird fish, or just normal human beings? It's my dream that nasa finds a way to let us see what's on the land of these earth like planets, it would be amazing lol
 
Because most "earth-like" planets are at the very least several light years away. The picture you're seeing is also likely to be an artist's render of it, based on Earth as we don't have cameras powerful enough to give much detail at huge distances.
 
Not likely but definite. Even the most powerful telescopes could not achieve a level of detail that great with a planet that far away. They just look at the star it's orbiting and how far away the planet is from the star and can roughly estimate the temperature of that given planet. Then the artists just assume that it would look Earth-like.
 
I remember I read somewhere that we could use the lensing effect of large masses (the bending of space time due to huge gravity fields) to help make telescopes more powerful. Don't know if more research was done on this.
 
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Cool lanes of forming stars are seen in amazing detail in this image of the Andromeda galaxy, captured by ESA's Herschel Space Observatory.
 
Iran's President Wants to be Country's 1st Astronaut

Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad may be headed to space one day, if a recent public statement is to be believed.

Speaking at an exhibition of Iran's space achievements in Tehran, the Islamic Republic's president said he would be the first human launched to space aboard an Iranian rocket, the Mehr news agency reported.

"I am ready to be the first human to be sent to space by Iranian scientists," Ahmadinejad said.
 
I would suggest he waits a little before attempting such a feat, for Apollo 1 unfortunately demonstrated the difficulties of getting a rocket into space with humans safely 50 years ago.

Though he might not let anyone but himself be first, which is both brave ... And egotistical.

More to the point, have Iran even got a satellite program, or do the US not allow it?
 
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Let us think of ways to stop any of these space rocks slamming into our planet. 👍
 
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Where most spiral galaxies have two twisting arms, a neighbor of the Milky Way is a four-armed monster. A new photo snapped by the Hubble Space Telescope, combined with observations by amateur astronomers, reveals these arms in stunning detail.

The galaxy Messier 106 lies about 20 million light-years from Earth in the constellation Ursa Major (the Great Bear)


The galaxy Messier 106
 
Anyone seen this yet?

http://mars-one.com/en/

The guy leading this was on Belgian television this evening and I was wondering the entire time whether he's really thought through about this.

They're planning to land 4 humans on Mars in 10 years to continue their lives there. 10 years from now. So I guess they are already contracting NASA getting their rovers on Mars, start building capsules and everything else needed to keep these humans alive on Mars. And then there is basic things like food and water.

Giving a company 10 years to plan and project a new world's tallest building sounds like an incredible challenge. But 10 years to start a civilization on a different planet?
 
How does a project of this manner become funded?

You can donate them money on their official website. Something tells me they don't really have all the funds to realize something of this magnitude.

I don't believe this is doable in 10 years. And even if so, why the hell would anyone be willing to buy a one-way ticket to Mars? There is like... nothing over there. You can't really step outside either without looking death in the eye.

Why are we so obsessed with Mars, though? When it's time for us to leave this planet, would one not assume we have the technology and knowledge developed to travel far beyond Mars to a more suitable planet for our form of life?
 
We have to start somewhere with leaving this planet. So it might as well be one of our closest neighbors to begin with.
 
Yep. If I had the means, I honestly would volunteer to go.

You would leave your family an your entire way of life, freinds and all, and move to another planet with 9 other people, all of which you may end up hating with a passion, for the rest of your life? Which presumably would be that long, due to the massive lack of breathable air, and atmosphere, also the gravity is about half that of earths.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to go there for, maybe a couple of days, but forever? Nope.
 
I'm pretty sure you would regret that choice quite quickly. You would be practically locked into your capsule as you cannot go outside without a spacesuit and I'm sure getting into a spacesuit gets really tiresome quickly.

I cannot find a single reason why I would ever give up the beauty of Earth's nature and the wealth of our modern society, for a planet that has nothing for us other than being an escape pod.
 
You would leave your family an your entire way of life, freinds and all, and move to another planet with 9 other people, all of which you may end up hating with a passion, for the rest of your life? Which presumably would be that long, due to the massive lack of breathable air, and atmosphere, also the gravity is about half that of earths.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to go there for, maybe a couple of days, but forever? Nope.

Biodomes could be built that simulate all those things (apart from gravitational field strength). In the the very near future we will have artificial intelligence that could construct these within weeks.
 
Biodomes could be built that simulate all those things (apart from gravitational field strength). In the the very near future we will have artificial intelligence that could construct these within weeks.

You forget 1 key aspect.

Who is gonna pay for it? The US government? Nope. NASA? Nope. ESA? Nope. Iran maybe? Nope.

Fun plans to dream about, but realistic? Nope.

Only a joined effort by the biggest space dwelling companies/countries will get us to Mars.
 
See that's the problem I have with discussions on this type of subject, it always comes down to money. Ok maybe people don't want to foot the bill to hop over to another planet and make a small base, I'll give you that. But think about the future.

But what happens if we need to get off of Earth quickly? In my opinion, in a situation where we need to have somewhere to go in case something goes wrong here, money should be no object. We should find a way to make it happen, no matter what it takes.

"I'm sorry, we can't afford that so we'll all just have to die."

I share the same opinion about water. "We're running out of fresh water, blah, blah." Umm, 70% of this planet is water. Sure 96% of that is salt water, but it can be desalinized, and I bet when you are really thirsty you'll find a way to make it happen.
 
Things that cost money require energy to create and synthesise them. If we could find a way for cold fusion to work we could have effectively infinite amounts of energy for free. This means the whole concept of money and cost will go out the window. Building a pathway for things we could never dream of before because "it costs too much money".
 
But what happens if we need to get off of Earth quickly?

Then we die. Right now there is no way we can get off of Earth. I guess we'll just have to nuke anything out of orbit coming our way.

Even in the near future there is no way we can build all that is needed to get millions, if not billions, of people off this planet quickly.
 
Oh, don't get me wrong. I know for sure we will see people on Mars in our lifetime. But it will be a round trip. For now, we simply don't have the means to build, or better explained, the funds to build a sustainable base on Mars.

I'll volunteer for a 2 year round trip. My girlfriend won't agree, but hey woman, it's Mars!

Water? We can drink our own piss after filtering it. The peeps in the ISS already do so.

And for the "we need to leave the planet or we will all die" scenario? Well, a lot of people will die when that happens, especially if it would happen in the near future.

And we just have to accept that everything that will get us anywhere will cost us money. Period.
 
Then we die. Right now there is no way we can get off of Earth. I guess we'll just have to nuke anything out of orbit coming our way.

Even in the near future there is no way we can build all that is needed to get millions, if not billions, of people off this planet quickly.

Teleportation. Scientists have already teleported a single atom from one posistion to another. If you can teleport one atom, then theoretically it's possible to teleport any amount of atoms. And that was in 1997 I think so who knows what even the near future holds.
 
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