Space In General

[Dennisch]

You keep using that word. Near.

Even NASA plans his man to Mars missions in the 2030's. NASA is the big kahuna of space travel. Unless some bright mind in his moms basement comes up with a cheap and ridiculous efficient power source, we will be stuck here until at least the 30's. And again, it all comes down to money. The same goes for the teleportation method. 1 atom? Cute. When they can teleport a mouse or something it becomes less of a future dream.
But to develop that the developer needs.... wait for it..... money!

I like your way of seeing it positive, but it just isn't realistic.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Basically it comes down to this:

Realistic = Death

 

[Dennisch]

Basically it comes down to this:

Realistic = Death

Nooooo.

Realistic = poor. And then death!

 

[Encyclopedia]

Teleportation. Scientists have already teleported a single atom from one posistion to another. If you can teleport one atom, then theoretically it's possible to teleport any amount of atoms. And that was in 1997 I think so who knows what even the near future holds.

Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't every teleportation atempt yet been about copying rather than teleporting? If that's the case then teleporting would mean the death of one person and the creation of a new one.

 

[niky]

A colony on Mars is a doomed idea. Not because Mars is so far or we lack the technical knowhow. If technical knowhow was all that was needed, we could build entire cities on Mars.

Money.

As stated, going to Mars requires money. And money requires energy. Just getting a viable colony TO Mars (viable meaning over a thousand heads, to limit interbreeding) would bankrupt the world a few times over.

We simply do not have enough available energy resources to launch a Martian colony into space. Not if we want to keep feeding everyone here on Earth.

And if that extinction-level asteroid hits in the near future, we don't have enough resources to put a viable colony on the moon to wait it out.

Basically, big asteroid = we all die. We could save a few hundreds or thousands in deep bunkers underground or in the sea, but humanity as we know it will not survive.

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Before a Maritan colony, we should be looking at establishing a Moon base. That would be our halfway point, and a place where we get good solar coverage, bake propellant out of rock and establish a small city within a realistic time frame.

 

[Shoe67]

My opinion on this.


Would I like to see humans on mars in my life time? Yes

Should we have a mars colony? No

Moon colony? Yes, but not in my life time

 

[CodeRedR51]

Money = Death of humanity itself

 

[Shoe67]

Money = Death of humanity itself

Humanity=death of humanity


All life eventually fails. No matter what.

 

[CodeRedR51]

All life eventually fails. No matter what.

Yet we as human beings actually have the resources and ability to change that. For this reason, money should be no object when it comes to saving at least one small chunk of the human race, any way possible.

 

[kk20]

Teleportation. Scientists have already teleported a single atom from one posistion to another. If you can teleport one atom, then theoretically it's possible to teleport any amount of atoms. And that was in 1997 I think so who knows what even the near future holds.

Im sorry what? Link please. Will be interesting to see what my friend the first law of thermodynamics thinks about this..

 

[niky]

Yet we as human beings actually have the resources and ability to change that. For this reason, money should be no object when it comes to saving at least one small chunk of the human race, any way possible.

While yes, we do waste trillions of dollars on useless things every year, the sad facts are... even if the entire energy output of our civilization was put into extra-planetary colonies, we couldn't get very much out into space. And what we could get into space wouldn't be self-sufficient. Why set up colonies that couldn't survive without support from Earth? They won't really help us in the event of a major asteroid strike.

Hell... even if we could land an entire city on another planetary body, a Moon colony or Mars colony wouldn't be self-sufficient at all without practical fusion and/or working Von Neumann devices. The former is over fifty years away. The latter probably a hundred.

 

[Emptyone]

Im sorry what? Link please. Will be interesting to see what my friend the first law of thermodynamics thinks about this..

I think I read somewhere they can teleport one or two atoms, but teleporting brings with it an intrinsic fuzziness thanks to Quantum Mechanics, so you don't get an exact reproduction of the original object.

 

[nealcropper]

Can anyone provide a like to the pass of the meteor? I think it's called 2012DA14?

 

[Shoe67]

Can anyone provide a like to the pass of the meteor? I think it's called 2012DA14?

The one that burned up in Russia? Injuring 1000 people?

 

[Dennisch]

Can anyone provide a like to the pass of the meteor? I think it's called 2012DA14?

Clickie

And of course. It would be visible above the Netherlands. But the clouds. Damn you clouds!

 

[Dennisch]

I think this is one of the most beautiful pictures ever :

 

[MisterEads]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA_o28xF_48&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Russia got hit

ahhhh!

 

[CodeRedR51]

http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emil...-to-whiz-past-mars.html#.US6xWtbvJWw.facebook

Comet to pass closely by Mars next year. Slim chance of impact?

 

[Dry7123]

I find the facts of space and time literally intimidating... To understand the fact that the galaxy is truly 2x more intense than our minds can comprehend, who's to say that our minds won't be able to sustain certain events. Are we obly allowed to know certain things to a certain extent? Is there a reason why we only use a small limited amount of our brain? They say that the galaxy is expanding, but into what? And how much longer can it expand to?

 

[Dan_]

http://www.planetary.org/blogs/emil...-to-whiz-past-mars.html#.US6xWtbvJWw.facebook

Comet to pass closely by Mars next year. Slim chance of impact?

That is quite funny, some terraforming enthusiasts are elated by the possibility of this comet containing volatiles, such as hydrogen and oxygen and the power of the impact, which could thicken the martian atmosphere by triggering a greenhouse effect or even opening a sufficiently sized crater to expose volcanic activity.

Or it could as well pull up a cloud of dust and block sunlight, dipping the planet in an even worse cryogenic scenario. Who knows.

 

[braunracing88]

I think this is one of the most beautiful pictures ever :

It's absolutely breathtaking.
Kudos to you for the find.

 

[homeforsummer]

Teleportation. Scientists have already teleported a single atom from one posistion to another. If you can teleport one atom, then theoretically it's possible to teleport any amount of atoms. And that was in 1997 I think so who knows what even the near future holds.

Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't every teleportation atempt yet been about copying rather than teleporting? If that's the case then teleporting would mean the death of one person and the creation of a new one.

A bit of both. To my knowledge, all that has been teleported so far is quantum information from a group of atoms, rather than atoms themselves.

That's as far as it's realistically got, even today. The teleportation of even a single-celled organism, let alone a human, is possibly hundreds of years away - if it's possible at all. It's so hugely complicated that we're in no way sure teleporting a living object, or even a dead object of more than a few atoms, wouldn't just end up as a big pile of grey mush at the other end. Teleporting things isn't the difficult bit - reassembling them into the correct shape at the other end is.

On the plus side, quantum teleportation has shown us that computers and the internet could be jolly quick in the future.

Im sorry what? Link please. Will be interesting to see what my friend the first law of thermodynamics thinks about this..

The First Law of thermodynamics has very little to do with it. Quantum theory on the other hand, does.

 

[braunracing88]

Looks like were due for another close encounter of the cosmic boulder kind. Check out this photo from The Weather Space.com's FB page.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...41920899.79964.132522300112465&type=1&theater
And there's this story on their site about a meteor sighting over California.

 

[nealcropper]

Looks like were due for another close encounter of the cosmic boulder kind. Check out this photo from The Weather Space.com's FB page.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=539018872796137&set=a.314437941920899.79964.132522300112465&type=1&theater
And there's this story on their site about a meteor sighting over California.

Will this be visible from the UK?

 

[braunracing88]

Will this be visible from the UK?

Don't know yet.

 

[nealcropper]

Don't know yet.

Could you do me favour and keep me updated, I will also be trying to find out aswell.

 

[PeterJB]

It will be, just very low on the horizon.

 

[nealcropper]

It will be, just very low on the horizon.

Any chance you'd know which direction?

 

[Dennisch]

They have found the Space Invaders!!!

 

[PeterJB]

Any chance you'd know which direction?

From the south-west to the north-west.