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Seedy conspiracy theories are tossed into the SpaceX AMOS-6 case by the Washington Post:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amph...b60514-874c-11e6-a3ef-f35afb41797f_story.html

At a conference in Mexico earlier this week, Musk said that finding out what went wrong is the company’s “absolute top priority,” but he said what caused the explosion is still unknown.

“We’ve eliminated all of the obvious possibilities for what occurred there,” he said. “So what remains are the less probable answers.”
 
Looks like we're not the only ones thinking sniper. Crazy theory but plausible.

In what sense...? If you understand the location and type of shot that'd be needed to do that no it's quite improbable to an order of magnitude reaching on insanity. Like I understand your infatuation with all things Musk. But that quote only means that they've eliminated all the obvious engineering problems now there are less probable ones to explore.

Perhaps the material used had a certain rating from the manufacture that passed the sample test, but that one part they got happened to be below the threshold. A bit out there but actually plausible.

In fact I think the ULA conspiracy would hold far more weight than the sniper theory on any level, just no...
 
I'm personally not thinking sniper - though that is plausible. I think it was an explosion of the strongback LOX pipe insulation triggered by corona discharge or that UFO/ball lightning thingie. But there's absolutely no doubt at all that Musk has rivals, critics and enemies in a wide variety of industries, governments and businesses. If in fact there was a conspiracy against the AMOS-6 mission, not only Musk, but Zuckerberg and the state of Israel were the victims.
 
I'm personally not thinking sniper - though that is plausible. I think it was an explosion of the strongback LOX pipe insulation triggered by corona discharge or that UFO/ball lightning thingie. But there's absolutely no doubt at all that Musk has rivals, critics and enemies in a wide variety of industries, governments and businesses. If in fact there was a conspiracy against the AMOS-6 mission, not only Musk, but Zuckerberg and the state of Israel were the victims.

Once again no it's not. You'd have to have a highly trained shot, which is quite rare, and unless Bob from accounting at Lockheed just happens to be a world class shooter that can hit within .75 moa. And just happens to have schematics of the Falcon 9 to make such a precise impossible shot. Then sure it's plausible.

@Dennisch has a more realistic theory than the proposed sniper bs. Also the LOX would be shrounded in multiple layers, for the purposes of heat transfer, so a simple discharge would have to be (in my mind) quite well noticed to other facilitating areas and not just concentrated on the rocket.

I think Larry the anti-patriotic pigeon allowed himself to get into the Helium system and thus the rest is history. I hear an eagle killed Larry's wife.
 
In what sense...? If you understand the location and type of shot that'd be needed to do that no it's quite improbable to an order of magnitude reaching on insanity.
I did say it was crazy, calm down.
Like I understand your infatuation with all things Musk.
More people need to step up like he has.
But that quote only means that they've eliminated all the obvious engineering problems now there are less probable ones to explore.
As far as I have read, that's the current situation.
Perhaps the material used had a certain rating from the manufacture that passed the sample test, but that one part they got happened to be below the threshold.
Similar to the first incident, sure.
In fact I think the ULA conspiracy would hold far more weight than the sniper theory on any level, just no...
How else would ULA use their roof to sabotage the launch? Throw rocks? You only go up there to check for one thing, and it sounds to me like SpaceX isn't thinking far off the sniper theory. And it doesn't have to be a ULA employee, if they have connections it could be anyone including someone that is well trained and would do almost anything for the right amount of money. Though this whole ULA story is news to me.
Trained suicide pigeon.
With laser beams on it's head.
 
I did say it was crazy, calm down.

Then why even give it the time of day, and I am calm, but this is my field of study and it's quite asinine to see people who dont understand it make the initial claim.

More people need to step up like he has.

People have, he really isn't that special, he's done great things but other people are as well in this moment. He just bank rolls it.

As far as I have read, that's the current situation.

Yes and as far as I read they suspect there was an issue with the helium system in the upper...so

Similar to the first incident, sure.

No cause there was force load, and a faulty strut is a simple engineer problem which they claim they're beyond that. An engineer problem they give to people like me trying to get jobs like this.

How else would ULA use their roof to sabotage the launch? Throw rocks? You only go up there to check for one thing, and it sounds to me like SpaceX isn't thinking far off the sniper theory. And it doesn't have to be a ULA employee, if they have connections it could be anyone including someone that is well trained and would do almost anything for the right amount of money. Though this whole ULA story is news to me.

Well I mean Musk is quite the business man, and thus when you charge premium transport of cargo that undermines the joint monopoly held by the two biggest players in the industry. And thus steal their DoD contracts...you get a conspiracy that even if you hadn't heard exists. And has more play because it seems more plausible if Boeing and Lockheed are in fact that sinister. Also both groups have access to laser and then people really get crazy when they see that.

With laser beams on it's head.

Larry would never use a laser, his body was his vessel of destruction.
 
Moon Poo!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/encounter-moon-poo-080000814.html
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Oviducts of amphibians regurgitated by predators lindsey

That, readers, is moon poo.

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Congrats to the ESA on their successful landing on Mars just a short time ago. 👍

Edit: Or not. They are still waiting on confirmation of landing.
 
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A very high percentage of attempted landing on Mars are failures. It's a tough task, due to the thin atmosphere for one thing.
 
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A very high percentage of attempted landing on Mars are failures. It's a tough task, due to the thin atmosphere for one thing.

Absolutely.

Right now the ESA are thinking that the probe was either badly damaged or destroyed in the landing attempt as the parachute opened too early and the thrusters didn't fire for long enough. They've stopped short of saying "failure" so far but the mood is grim.

BBC.
 
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