"sphinx deserved everything he got"

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I'm always tempted by the projectors but the cost of the bulbs and the lifespan always gets reminded to me by the missus :indiff: Would be cool for occasional fun though! :)
Projectors are a blast, and in a dedicated light controlled theater, nothing beats them for picture quality... and of course size.

The nice thing about projectors is that you can also take them with you on vacation... and set them up for outdoor summer movie screenings.

We occasionally host neighborhood movie nights during the summer by moving the cars out of the garage and setting up the projector and sound system in the garage and voila... semi-outdoor theater for 20+ people with a 185" screen and convenient snack bar. :)👍

Best part is not having to worry about the kids making a mess on the floor. :D



It's also fun to set up a projector and screen outside by the pool for late night screenings of films like Jaws while lounging in the water... :D

The largest screen I ever used was a 25' about three summers ago, when we hosted a campout in our back yard for the neighborhood kids and families. While it's best on a moonless night, you’d be surprised how good a picture you can still get despite using such large screens. 👍
 
I've just spent the whole night racing you guys across the pond. I finished racing about 1 hour ago. I actually met some good drivers, GTP_VanHelzer for one, a very good driver.

Anything else you would like to know?

Edit:

Come on, guys, is that all you can throw at me.

Now that you mention it - where were you the night somebody pinched my kid's skateboard from the back garden?
 
wow what a lame!
nevermind it sphinx. unfortunately until we have private races things like these happen a lot.
 
Sphinx, you're a patient fellow ...


EDIT - re-reading what you wrote, I have one question: "across the pond" is an english expression that means "across the Atlantic", right? So, how do you bypass the "region lock" thing?
 
Exactly! Very strange turn of events here.....looks like a setup to me....in the U.S., it's called entrapment.

Exactly, its seems whoever told Thuggles about his name being black listed is the one doing the setup.
Just look at the replies.
If I were Thuggles I would wonder about the person who told me.
That person is obviously a traitor. Who else turns in a friend to the authority's.
The authority's in this situation have the evidence to prove themselves innocent bystanders as Sphinx did not get what he deserved, otherwise there would be an apology from Thuggles explaining why he is/was trying to tarnish a man's reputation as one of the cleanest races,......anywhere.

And in the US its entrapment when the authorities do something illegal, then it becomes entrapment. What has Sphinx done thats illegal, or for a better term, unethical. Sphinx is certainly using racing etiquette while racing, while obviously not the same etiquette as Thuggles and his mates use.
What kind of person tells others how to cheat? One that can not perform at racing. Thats all fine and dandy on your own game save, but not online racing. If you can't drive responsibly leave the online racing to those that can.
Whoever told Thuggles in the first place should send an apology to Sphinx as well.
 
As an organiser/attendee of various LAN events, I can say for certain that Sphinx would be more than welcome at an SFGTP or UKGTP event, without question. 👍
Thuggles on the other hand, if he drove like that, would be DQ'd immediately, and ejected from further participation. 👎

💡 Now you mention it, since it would appear that Sphinx resides in the UK, why hasn't he attended any UKGTP's ????? ;)
 
I must confess that this thread has me slightly anoyied with some of the members here, and by that I mean those who have stated that Sphinx must have done something to desire this.

Sorry but have you lot actually played GT5:P on-line? More than enough idiots exist around who will quite happily drive like Thuggles in every single race. They do not need any reason to do it, they are either poor drivers, poor loosers or simply find more enjoyment in punting people off that driving well.

I have been on the receiving end of people like this in a number of races, and as Sphinx found, they do not need provocation to do it. The only thing we need to judge this encounter on is the video of that single race. Combine that with the rather pointed fact that Thuggles has not made a return since the full video was posted up and I'm quite happy to state which member I back on this.

As for the mod comments, keep in mind that Sphinx could have buried this, instead he actually turned into a thread in its own right, hardly the act of a man abusing his position or using it to influence peoples thoughts.


Scaff
 
Scaff makes the best point yet, and anyone who's actually played online knows this.

Most people in GT5 don't need to be goaded into an attack. As a matter of fact, when the attack does occur it's usually something you'd see on the Discovery Channel narrated:

"As the driver accelerates through the turns, enjoying the race, he is completely oblivious to the danger that lurks behind him. The punter takes his place and pounces... The OLR follower is in the sand, where he watches his attacker take his 5 second penalty before he speeds off while laughing hysterically!"

Let's be real, how many of us have been in that, or a similar situation? Minding your own business, focused on cleanly making the S-bends at Suzuka or something, and all of a sudden you find yourself 60 feet in the grass? The fact that, aside from Mr. Thuggles not making another appearence, especially after the FULL, UNEDITED race was aired, just works wonders for me to question whether or not Sphinx deserved it. The only way to know for sure is to make sure all races are recorded, and until we get a replay option online, we're forced to either ask Mr. Sphinx to record every race he enters, which is just a tremendously rude thing to ask of someone whether he does it anyway or not, or go with the one video we have.

The video clearly demonstrates aggression on Mr. Thuggles part, clear as day, with no retaliation on part of Mr. Sphinx, which I feel would have even been justified fairly easily. Constant attmepts at sideswiping, ramming, and blocking, not to mention the huge attempt at putting him down (which he failed miserably) at the final bend do nothing to help Mr. Thuggles case.

Now unless one of you can furnish me some video evidence of Mr. Sphinx knowingly causing harm to another driver that looks intentional and unprovoked, this case is closed as far as I'm concerned.

And just for the record, I'm going by this like it was on trial in a court. Mr. Thuggles is accusing Mr. Sphinx or wrong doing which led to his retaliation (I use that term loosely) against him, and the burden of proof now lies on Mr. Thuggles hands. Unless he can prove the allegations against Mr. Sphinx, which, by the way, Mr. Sphinx has more than sufficiently proven against Mr. Thuggles, than he has nothing to go back on.

So, Mr. Thuggles, prove to me that Mr. Sphinx is the horrible driver you claim he is, and I'll shut up right here and now. I'm fairly sure I won't have to worry about that, however.
 
Let's be real, how many of us have been in that, or a similar situation? Minding your own business, focused on cleanly making the S-bends at Suzuka or something, and all of a sudden you find yourself 60 feet in the grass?

Too many times on Fuji T1 and, if you're not careful, you can clock up a shortcut penalty by driving back onto the track. Insult+Injury=Me swearing at the telly again!
 
You're so kind to give me the benefit of the doubt. I mean, I've only proved myself every single time for the past 9 years in GT OLR (not a single dirty submission in all that time). I've also raced GT4 online for 3 years without a single blip to my name, that's a lot of racing, I can tell you. I'll even mention the BC's I've taken part in and won, but not because they gave me the benefit of the doubt, no, it was all on merit and fully deserved because they all know I'm a clean racer. You obviously don't know me very well.

Wow. Someone's modest.

Seriously, you can't just do that. I mean, unless you have your own private room where you can decide whether collisions are allowed, you just have to comply to the rules, and these rules allow for collisions/tough racing. I agree with the poster several pages back who mentioned it.

Problem is we have people who take it seriously and people who are just in it to play a video game they bought and, since both types paid the same moolah, and even though you find the opposing viewpoint incomprehensible, who the hell are you to say what's right and wrong?

Online gaming is NEVER, I repeat NEVER taken seriously until you are in a private server scenario, with a group of people who have agreed on the ground rules and (usually) an independent referee.

Amen.

Furthermore, ramming and nudging make the race "spicy" and "suspenseful".
 
Too many times on Fuji T1 and, if you're not careful, you can clock up a shortcut penalty by driving back onto the track. Insult+Injury=Me swearing at the telly again!

Preaching to the choir! I can't count how many times I've been:

Punted FAR off the track in Suzuka. I mean FAAAAR off, into the 20 minute sand trap and everything, and pick up a nice "Barrier Impact Penalty" when I hit the wall, only to watch the other driver drive off, and then, when I'm getting back on track, "Shortcut Penalty" to boot... If I didn't shave my head I'd be ripping my hair out...
 
Furthermore, ramming and nudging make the race "spicy" and "suspenseful".


Spicy, Yeah if you like being force fed a Vindaloo.

A little more than ramming and nudging going on in this race me thinks.

And as it has already been said. Where's the proof the Sphinx deserved this??

If it is a case of Thuggles wanting revenge then he got that the first time he caused Sphinx to go off track.

Like the saying goes More than three shakes and it's a 🤬

So in my eyes More than three attempts to put Sphinx out makes Thuggles a :censored:er
 
might I simply suggest the thuggles' driving style ( if one can call it a "style") is better suited to grand theft auto IV or the local county fair's bumper cars!

He must be in the financial business, or am I spelling "banker" wrong!

Several times I saw where Sphinx could have set you up for a very nice punt but chose to let you off the hook and make a clean pass later on the course. I've a 7 year old grand daughter who can control a car with more finesse than you've demonstrated. I suggest you practice car control especially entering the last chicane at suzuka. Wasn't that a fine demonstration of your financial expertise!

As for mr. mkay, since we are both in NA I will be more than cautious when and if I see you on the track. Since you feel that punting and ramming are a real integral part of the game my first move will be to stay behind you and let you figure out if I'm setting you up for whack in the backside. Trust me trading paint is one thing intentionally ramming and punting another driver to the marbles.............well, quite honestly is not my style and you'll be safer in front of me than in front of thuggles!
 
Wow. Someone's modest.
Hold on just a minute you opened this one up, all Sphinx is doing here is backing up (with information that can be proven) that he is a clean racer. Thuggles on the other hand has nothing at all to back up his claims at all. Modesty has nothing to do with this at all.

Seriously, you can't just do that. I mean, unless you have your own private room where you can decide whether collisions are allowed, you just have to comply to the rules, and these rules allow for collisions/tough racing. I agree with the poster several pages back who mentioned it.
What exactly is so strange that the vast majority of on-line racers expect that the normal rules of real world racing are carried over into what is a racing simulator?



Amen.

Furthermore, ramming and nudging make the race "spicy" and "suspenseful".
A small nudge or 'rubbing' I have no problem with at all, as in real racing is a part of the sport, and I'm sure most would agree.

However ramming (with no attempt to stop at all), using others as mobile barriers, constant blocking or sides-wipes on straights, etc, do not make racing more 'spicy' or 'suspenseful' at all. Done deliberately they are the cheap tactics of the poor racer.

Are you honestly saying that Thuggles blatant straightlining of the final chicane and sideswipes made for a better race? They would not be permitted in a real race and in my opinion should not be permitted on-line.


Scaff
 
A small nudge or 'rubbing' I have no problem with at all, as in real racing is a part of the sport, and I'm sure most would agree.

However ramming (with no attempt to stop at all), using others as mobile barriers, constant blocking or sides-wipes on straights, etc, do not make racing more 'spicy' or 'suspenseful' at all. Done deliberately they are the cheap tactics of the poor race.

I understand and I agree. What I meant is the former, not the latter. You're totally right.

Are you honestly saying that Thuggles blatant straightlining of the final chicane and sideswipes made for a better race? They would not be permitted in a real race and in my opinion should not be permitted on-line.

Well, I agree with you. The real problem here is that a big chunk of the people that bought this game, bought it for fun, to cause havoc, to have fun, but at the expense of others. They don't buy GT5 Prologue because it is the Real Driving Simulator, but rather because you can drive Ferraris/Lotuses/BMW... And I know a lot of them at my school. That's why I'm just questioning a bit what is said here. I agree that it is unsportmanslike to do this (especially the "using you as brakes"). I know it sucks, but you might as well be accustomed to it, until they put some private rooms in the game.
 
I understand and I agree. What I meant is the former, not the latter. You're totally right.



Well, I agree with you. The real problem here is that a big chunk of the people that bought this game, bought it for fun, to cause havoc, to have fun, but at the expense of others. They don't buy GT5 Prologue because it is the Real Driving Simulator, but rather because you can drive Ferraris/Lotuses/BMW... And I know a lot of them at my school. That's why I'm just questioning a bit what is said here. I agree that it is unsportmanslike to do this (especially the "using you as brakes"). I know it sucks, but you might as well be accustomed to it, until they put some private rooms in the game.

Most people buy it to see if it´s better than Burnout Paradise. Those who know the difference between shaving and cutting your head off, know which one it is. Those others are trying to make GT5P into some kind of Road Rage event, which it isn´t. A real shame...

Here in EU most of my frustration has been passed on to eastern european "gangsters". Especially on the High Speed Ring first right-hander... Aaaaaargh!
 
I know it sucks,
100% agree on that.



but you might as well be accustomed to it,
100% don't agree on that. I don't see why I should have to, and if videos like this upset those that do drive like idiots and put them off racing in that manner (fingers crossed) then great.

I have no intention in getting used to it.


until they put some private rooms in the game.
100% agree with that, then the we can get some good clean racing going.


Regards

Scaff
 
I will say that the one thing mKay is right about is the private races. We really should be putting the pressure on PD for this. It's completely inappropriate to feature a racing game with no such option so others can enjoy the game their own way.

I strive to understand how things like voice chat and private rooms never made it in the first place...
 
I will say that the one thing mKay is right about is the private races. We really should be putting the pressure on PD for this. It's completely inappropriate to feature a racing game with no such option so others can enjoy the game their own way.

I strive to understand how things like voice chat and private rooms never made it in the first place...

Hey, Joe. (No pun intended, but it´s a really cool tune (dedicated Hendrix fan!))

Couldn´t agree more. Private rooms should be a minimum by todays standards.
 
Looking at the number of replies here made by Thuggles it looks like he's done shouting.
One look at the evidence is enough for everyone to see who's what here, even he himself has seen the light, and takes his losses.

Now let's just hope that this means that there will be one basher less online. GTA-IV seems to have helped a lot.
 
Thuggles hasn't even visited the site (not as a member anyhow) since he originally posted the thread. He isn't interested in what we think, he just wanted to make his point and crawl back under which ever rock he came from.
 
"Nudging & rubbing" as well as being acceptable IRL racing, are inevitable in GT5P online, partly because of the lack of peripheral vision (unless you happen to have a 3 screen set-up). If you're in cockpit view you simply can't tell exactly where another car is when you're more or less side-by-side.

My first attempts online on HSR were an absolute mind-boggling disaster,where it was often impossible to tell if the other drivers were deliberately punting, or just completely incompetent! :ouch:

I had a good time online last night. The formula for success:

Late night (after midnight)

North America (no one to the west of you likely to be playing at an earlier local time, except Hawaii :))

Expert race/ Pro physics

Modest cars (under 600 pp)

Suzuka (most demanding course). 👍

It leads me to believe that online GT5/P will be great, eventually.
 
Now let's just hope that this means that there will be one basher less online. GTA-IV seems to have helped a lot.
...which is the one reason I do not want to see visible damage (or worse yet, smoke/explosions) in GT5. It will give the immature another reason to drive like idiots for longer periods online. Once the Havoc-crowd sees no visible signs of their destruction, it tends to "get old".

Don't get me wrong, the GTA-series is a lot of fun (even I like to see an exploding car cause absolute mayhem...and I'm 34 years old), but when the GT disk goes in, a different driver should be at the wheel/controller.

Oh, and Thuggles...bugger off.
 
...which is the one reason I do not want to see visible damage (or worse yet, smoke/explosions) in GT5. It will give the immature another reason to drive like idiots for longer periods online. Once the Havoc-crowd sees no visible signs of their destruction, it tends to "get old".

Don't get me wrong, the GTA-series is a lot of fun (even I like to see an exploding car cause absolute mayhem...and I'm 34 years old), but when the GT disk goes in, a different driver should be at the wheel/controller.

Oh, and Thuggles...bugger off.

The bigger picture with myself not wanting damage is that if any of you are familiar with Forza Motorsport on the XBox, it really wasn't much of a deterrant, if any at all... There were just as many bad drivers and rammers, but instead of just shrugging it off, it likely ended in two players not completing the race. It'd be nice if it worked, but it doesn't. Doesn't help that the, how do I say this... Not 'good' drivers, but the Forza vets, always found a way to spin you out and put you in a wall destroying your car with minimal damage to their own.
 
The bigger picture with myself not wanting damage is that if any of you are familiar with Forza Motorsport on the XBox, it really wasn't much of a deterrant, if any at all... There were just as many bad drivers and rammers, but instead of just shrugging it off, it likely ended in two players not completing the race. It'd be nice if it worked, but it doesn't. Doesn't help that the, how do I say this... Not 'good' drivers, but the Forza vets, always found a way to spin you out and put you in a wall destroying your car with minimal damage to their own.


The sad thing is, That people will actually spend time working that out :crazy:
 
Thuggles hasn't even visited the site (not as a member anyhow) since he originally posted the thread. He isn't interested in what we think, he just wanted to make his point and crawl back under which ever rock he came from.

So why is this crap thread still open?
 
So why is this crap thread still open?

To leave the right of reply open to Thuggles........

.....which will either happen, the thread will die off of its own accord or a mod will close it (and that will happen only if we feel it needs to).


Scaff
 
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