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Hi guys, this what I´ve posted on some threads about the MR "problem" (please excuse my english beforehand)
I tend to think that the problem is with the Center of Gravity of the cars, affected by the way the weight transfer from back to front. Not a "fixed COG" problem wich would mean that the cars itself are "broken" or poorly modeled... not at all.
More ir the way COG transfer from back to front on braking. (the stoppies of FR cars are nothing normal and they are related to the problem...)
Remember Enthusia? Remember the v-Box wich shows the way the COG moves when driving? Well, in GT6 that seems to be like an on-off COG movement.
And that´s why the problem is with MR cars and not with FR. When you´re braking hard on a FR car the COG transfer to the front, the tires get all the grip on the planet, and it´ll turn perfectly well. On the other hand, being the engine on the front causes a LOT or weight to be shifted to the front, and that´s causing the stoppies on FR, and not so much on MR cars.
With all that said, the lack of grip that we are experiencing on MR cars happens to be caused by the same COG transfer. When on FR cars you have a lot of grip on the front, wich is good, on MR the lack of grip on the back causes the snap oversteer that is happening.
BTW, I´m doing a lot of testing, and the problem ISN´T A HANDLING PROBLEM. It isn´t about "You suck at driving/You are the best driver on the world"... it happens when you brake, or when the car lifts on a bump.
The driving model is lovely. I LOVE GT6 to death, is just that, but the COG transfer has to be tuned down just a little. And that why if you add ballast to the front on MR cars the problem is someway mitigated.(the COG is already moved the front, so the transfer isn´t that drastical)
Don´t be apologist, people. We ain´t here to bash GT6 like a "diehard forza fan". All of us have bought GT6 and will keep on playing for years to come. It´s something that has to be fixed. If we took this attitude of "NOTHING IS WRONG" we´ll never have a Spec II like we all had on GT5. I drive with a DFGT, ABS 0 with 1/1 Brake distribution, no TCS and no ESP. I´m not a crazy rally driver wannabe... and I´m not spinning everywhere, but I insist on that there´s something odd. Quite odd...
Peace and again, excuse my english. It´s quite hard to explain something when you can´t speak properly...
I tend to think that the problem is with the Center of Gravity of the cars, affected by the way the weight transfer from back to front. Not a "fixed COG" problem wich would mean that the cars itself are "broken" or poorly modeled... not at all.
More ir the way COG transfer from back to front on braking. (the stoppies of FR cars are nothing normal and they are related to the problem...)
Remember Enthusia? Remember the v-Box wich shows the way the COG moves when driving? Well, in GT6 that seems to be like an on-off COG movement.
And that´s why the problem is with MR cars and not with FR. When you´re braking hard on a FR car the COG transfer to the front, the tires get all the grip on the planet, and it´ll turn perfectly well. On the other hand, being the engine on the front causes a LOT or weight to be shifted to the front, and that´s causing the stoppies on FR, and not so much on MR cars.
With all that said, the lack of grip that we are experiencing on MR cars happens to be caused by the same COG transfer. When on FR cars you have a lot of grip on the front, wich is good, on MR the lack of grip on the back causes the snap oversteer that is happening.
BTW, I´m doing a lot of testing, and the problem ISN´T A HANDLING PROBLEM. It isn´t about "You suck at driving/You are the best driver on the world"... it happens when you brake, or when the car lifts on a bump.
The driving model is lovely. I LOVE GT6 to death, is just that, but the COG transfer has to be tuned down just a little. And that why if you add ballast to the front on MR cars the problem is someway mitigated.(the COG is already moved the front, so the transfer isn´t that drastical)
Don´t be apologist, people. We ain´t here to bash GT6 like a "diehard forza fan". All of us have bought GT6 and will keep on playing for years to come. It´s something that has to be fixed. If we took this attitude of "NOTHING IS WRONG" we´ll never have a Spec II like we all had on GT5. I drive with a DFGT, ABS 0 with 1/1 Brake distribution, no TCS and no ESP. I´m not a crazy rally driver wannabe... and I´m not spinning everywhere, but I insist on that there´s something odd. Quite odd...
Peace and again, excuse my english. It´s quite hard to explain something when you can´t speak properly...