Spinning Arrows Club. Thursday night casual racing.Open 

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tarkus1
I know you guys are all very busy racing right now but I'm dropping in the casual night agenda anyway.
race 1 - trial mountain at 500 street car.
Race 2 - VFT at 550 any car.
Race 3 - One Make race at Tsukuba 10 laps. Yep, that's Tsukuba. BS will be on but I doubt it will have much of an impact on this track. No blue Subaru here.
race 4 - VFT and one make winner picks PP limit.
Race 5 - Daytona 77 except this time it will be 30 laps. Full B/S and NO damage.
race 6 - winner of Daytona 77 picks next track and PP.
Race 7 - back for another run: Ayrton Senna at Indy and 15 laps.
Race 8 - VFT and winner of previous race decided PP limit.
Race 9 and the final race of the night due to the length of the races tonight. MIDFIELD MAYHEM is back in all its glory. We're going out with a bang (or at least a hoot).

As usual, the races will start at about 8:05EST (remember daylight savings time in the US) and there will be about 5-6 minutes between each race depending on the race requirements.
Also, these races will not have B/S unless it specifically says so such as with races 3 and 5.
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Sorry guys but I've to pass this time. I'm so tired today and I can't manage two following nights with so little sleep... :crazy:

However I wish you a big, big fun tonight!!! :cheers:
 
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MannYhAvitZ
Yes I will,
But I FU:censored:KED Up tho! I had ElGato Device Recording Live... Meaning I didn't Hit the record Button, so What that means is that When I was done with the race I have a bar that I need to reset it to Zero and press the record Button and It records The whole Race like in 2secs!! But what I did I thought I was recording so when I press the "Stop Recording" Button I actually STARTED recording when the Race was OVER!! :banghead::banghead::banghead:

EHTeam Knows what I'm talking about in case it sounds confusing

So this means that I will Have to Upload the race with out our Live Conversations :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

I did save the replay tho
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I'm sure you'll do your best my friend... as usual... ;) 👍 :cheers:
 
o_OPaTricKO_o
Sorry guys but I've to pass this time. I'm so tired today and I can't manage two following night with so little sleep... :crazy:

However I wish you a big, big fun tonight!!! :cheers:
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@o_OPaTricKO_o
Amazing battles you had last night you drove amazing and our battle was awesome!! You don't fall under pressure Patrick :ouch:
You and me were sharing a lil bit of paint and our bumpers were so close to each other and I am amazed how both of us didn't cause a casualty 👍

I have respect for you Sir :bowdown:
 
alcheng
I cannot be happier, pole, fastest lap, won the race. ya man!! :D
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Once again congratulations for this sovereign victory!!! 👍 :bowdown: :cheers:



Beautiful pic Alex! But tell me one, are you alone on the track??? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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I think now it's official:
YOU BELONG TO THE ALIENS GROUP!!!
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:​
 
MannYhAvitZ
@o_OPaTricKO_o
Amazing battles you had last night you drove amazing and our battle was awesome!! You don't fall under pressure Patrick :ouch:
You and me were sharing a lil bit of paint and our bumpers were so close to each other and I am amazed how both of us didn't cause a casualty 👍

I have respect for you Sir :bowdown:
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Wow, thanks a lot Manny, I really appreciate these very kind words!!! :embarrassed:
It was sometimes so difficult, but the fairness and the proper driving you and all the guys I had to fight with showed, made this difficulty to a real driving pleasure.... 👍
I can't stop repeating that: "Thank you all once again!!!" :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
 
Arveena
You are right of course. The best driver with the most Preparation has won the Race.
The only thing you are missing is that there is no Ford GT in the the Quickmatches that is what i am saying. Its not even a GT3 car in this game.
It was a nice race and experince and of course the best driver did win. But the numbers are off the car is 1.5 to 2 seconds faster i spoke with a lot of people and everyone who tried it can tell you the ford is faster.
When you do 2:17 with your car you will do 2:15 or 2:16 with that car.
I only mentioned the Tyre Change because it was a Rulechange an Team_Eh got it wrong and i also did not know it but that was because i jumped in so late.
I like it but Pit Stop Strategy is also something i am bad at.

Of course I am fine I was very happy with both races. But it just bugs me. As you remember I actually did not drive the Pagani in Le Mans it was way too fast. The same as mphile and i did at daytona with the Ford GT.
Its just a different class of cars the Pagani was more of an LMP than an GT3 same goes now for the ford. Just compare the Audi and the Ford. Both MR and both should be equal and the Ford is faster and waaaay easier to drive.
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Had I not got stuck behind a Corvette after my first stop, 10 seconds of short cut penalties, and a crash at the end. I would have finished ahead of two Ford GTs. So work on your Pit Stop Strategy, learning the 2014 Suzuka Circuit, and put in the 50 plus hours of practice that alex did.

The BMW Z4 is fast in the right hands. I believe you can squeeze more out of it.


You'll be fine at Suzuka and Mt Panorma.
 
I did a 2:15:0 in the race i know the BMW is fast. Without much Practice. You could do a 2:14 high maybe. But it takes a lot of risk and effort and of course I am fine at Suzuka an Bathurst. But thats not the Point.
Also you are avoiding the Problem i am not complaining about my performance or my cars.

I am complaining that the gt3 numbers are from PD and fine (they also changed in QM depending on Track btw) but the Ford GT is just a number i dont get. Its close and its probably fine on tracks like Daytona and Indy (still was the fastest car on Daytona and super easy to drive) etc. but on Suzuka and Spa it is even faster.

Even Manny said that he told you that and he is driving a Ford GT. Not to mention because its not an GT3 its so easy to drive at the Limit. You dont need some freaky Setups to get it on Speed you just drive it and its fast.
Without Setup i drove at my second lap with it a 2:15:3 I was in the 2:18 back then with the BMW.

Also sorry but Pit Stop Strategy. You could not change Strategy at all. I drove the Tyres for 30+min and laptimes where only 2 sec slower and Tyres were at 6. Did anyone did a different Strategy than 3 RS stops? I guess 2 Stops would be faster but you could not do it.
 
Arveena
I did a 2:15:0 in the race i know the BMW is fast. Without much Practice. You could do a 2:14 high maybe. But it takes a lot of risk and effort and of course I am fine at Suzuka an Bathurst. But thats not the Point.
Also you are avoiding the Problem i am not complaining about my performance or my cars.

I am complaining that the gt3 numbers are from PD and fine (they also changed in QM depending on Track btw) but the Ford GT is just a number i dont get. Its close and its probably fine on tracks like Daytona and Indy (still was the fastest car on Daytona and super easy to drive) etc. but on Suzuka and Spa it is even faster.

Even Manny said that he told you that and he is driving a Ford GT. Not to mention because its not an GT3 its so easy to drive at the Limit. You dont need some freaky Setups to get it on Speed you just drive it and its fast.
Without Setup i drove at my second lap with it a 2:15:3 I was in the 2:18 back then with the BMW.

Also sorry but Pit Stop Strategy. You could not change Strategy at all. I drove the Tyres for 30+min and laptimes where only 2 sec slower and Tyres were at 6. Did anyone did a different Strategy than 3 RS stops? I guess 2 Stops would be faster but you could not do it.
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I actually calculated my Corvette's wear on Spa. Here"s what I got.
Gas -> about 25 laps
Front tires -> 30 laps
Rear tires -> 45 laps
 
Arveena
Race was great. But why did you change the rule regarding Tyre switching i found it a lot more fun with different Tyres and because of the different Strategys there are more Battles. And why 3 Stops? :confused::confused:
I wanted to do 2 which is easily possible but i noticed after the second stop that i need to pit again. Tyres werent even used when i switched them.
Also I think the Suzuka Race needs some BOP tweaking. I tested a lot for Daytona and i drove all cars. They are pretty much balanced as far as the gt3 goes and the Vette.
Some are faster on the straights some faster in slow turns some faster in fast turns. The Audi is was probably the worst in Daytona because he doesnt like slow turns. The Ford was the fastest in Daytona but only by 2tenth for me which is fine you will never get so many cars to be exactly equal.
In Spa it was way more than a second for me. But why that? Its because the Fords biggest strenght are fast turns and i think Suzuka has a lot of them. Because it is a different type of car its not a gt3 car it is an GT original car. There is a gt3 Ford GT in Real life but its not the one in the game.
All the other cars i think are in 1 second Merc Audi BMW Vette and Viper. Which is amazing.:cheers:👍
But i can understand that everyone wants to drive their car. And i also want to drive a german car not that American crap:lol::lol:
But you could give the winning car or driver the top 3 cars some sort of penalty for the next race.
For example:

First place -15hp
Second place -10hp
Third place -5hp

So you get a closer field and the cars are balancing themself just by performance.
You can do it with Driver or the Car. Maybe with smaler Numbers i dont know. But it is a fact that the Ford GT is not a gt3 car. The same as the Pagani was wrong in the Lemans Race.:cool:
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Arveena
You are right of course. The best driver with the most Preparation has won the Race.
The only thing you are missing is that there is no Ford GT in the the Quickmatches that is what i am saying. Its not even a GT3 car in this game.
It was a nice race and experince and of course the best driver did win. But the numbers are off the car is 1.5 to 2 seconds faster i spoke with a lot of people and everyone who tried it can tell you the ford is faster.
When you do 2:17 with your car you will do 2:15 or 2:16 with that car.
I only mentioned the Tyre Change because it was a Rulechange an Team_Eh got it wrong and i also did not know it but that was because i jumped in so late.
I like it but Pit Stop Strategy is also something i am bad at.

Of course I am fine I was very happy with both races. But it just bugs me. As you remember I actually did not drive the Pagani in Le Mans it was way too fast. The same as mphile and i did at daytona with the Ford GT.
Its just a different class of cars the Pagani was more of an LMP than an GT3 same goes now for the ford. Just compare the Audi and the Ford. Both MR and both should be equal and the Ford is faster and waaaay easier to drive.
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you are correct about the Ford GT is a easier car to drive, and @ Daytona it was a faster car.

I came into Spa Francorchamps and thought the same thing too, after some initial test I found the Ford is faster than the SLS for quite a bit.

I didn't want to take the advantage and you can get proof from Tjger at one point I asked him do we need to lower the HP on the Ford to make the field more even.

We decided to wait for a bit until more testing has done.

Then we saw EHTeam setting the same lap times as the Ford GT in his Z4.

Then we saw Mphile setting lap time very close to the other two in his SLS.

I am not sure have you test the Ford GT in Spa but if not you might want to give it a try.

The Ford is fast at the downhill section, which is the 2nd sector, but it can kill your lap completely on the last chicane and the 1st-corner by a big spin-out, because of its light weight MR platform.

It took me weeks to fine out the right chassis balance and ways of driving to overcome that issue, at the beginning stage of testing, I spun out on EVERY SINGLE lap at the chicane.

Regarding the performance, again, the Ford is fast at the corner, but the Z4 is fastest on acceleration and top-speed.

Check the replay and you will know what I mean, so many times EH and I exit Eau Rouge at the same speed with couple car-length apart, and he will just get onto my tail and pass me like a M3 on a Prius. I was :scared:.


I did choose the Ford because it's more competitive, that I have to admit, I want good result and I am serious on these endurance races, thus I choose the Ford.

But heck, it's racing, try asking if Hamilton would like to race in a Caterham, see what will he say to you? :lol:


Will the Ford guarantee you a win or podium? I don't know, Ford drivers didn't sweep the front rows on qualify nor finish 1-2-3 in the race.


About the pit stop, if you read my earlier post, I got kicked by it off guard too, I had my pit strategy planned out as 2 stops too, and when I saw "3-stop" at the start I was :eek::eek:.

edit: as I've said, I spent the first 8 laps of the race driving, fighting and thinking a new 3-stops strategy.

Regarding the tire compound change, Tjger states that change couple weeks ago, I am ok with either cos I setup the car with RM too.


for this kind of endurance race, it's all depends on how's your skills and most importantly, how much preparation you've done.


I can honestly tell you, just for this Spa race, I've done over 2000+ km of testing.


looking forward to see you come back strong in Suzuka!!! :cheers::cheers:
 
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1. You did not prepare for this race. It shows in the mistakes you made at Spa and Daytona.
2. You picked the BMW Z4. I didn't pick it for you. Some of the guys want a lottery system used to assign cars.
3. You signed up for the race. I asked you if you wanted to. I didn't force it upon you.

So if you can't be competitive with the BMW Z4 rip up your contract and sign with another manufacture.

There can only be one winner. Sorry you didn't win last night. There are two races left. You could win the Championship and brag about the pride of BMW and Germany.
 
o_OPaTricKO_o
Once again congratulations for this sovereign victory!!! 👍 :bowdown: :cheers:



Beautiful pic Alex! But tell me one, are you alone on the track??? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Circuit%2Bde%2BSpa-Francorchamps



I think now it's official:
YOU BELONG TO THE ALIENS GROUP!!!
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:​
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thank you for your kind words Patrick.

I watched the replay last night, and you were driving some brilliant race!!!

you are a different driver than in Tokyo, completely different!!! Great Job bro!!!!




regarding the Alien status, I am very very happy with what you guys are saying, but I will not admit myself as an Alien... yet...

I will wait until the next one-make race where we all driving the same car and see what happen. For now, I still insist I am a human, maybe a fast and crazy human. lol


:cheers:
 
Obelisk
Don't worry about it! I was asking the question just in general.
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Well keep racing the Enduros and we will let you know OB...
Casual races, Seasonal events, Time attacks & BLOCKING doesn't count so show us what you got and how well you can handle these events and I am sure we will find out OB

:cheers:
 
MannYhAvitZ
Well keep racing the Enduros and we will let you know OB...
Casual races, Seasonal events, Time attacks & BLOCKING doesn't count so show us what you got and how well you can handle these events and I am sure we will find out OB

:cheers:
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I'm pretty sure the Seasonal TAs are a good measure.
 
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That was after 2 Laps with a more or less Standart Setup an 100% fuel. 2:12 easy doable with low fuel and a setup.

As you can see i did drive the Ford GT you can check the Speed for Varification i did not cheat. I can also sent you the Replay if you PM me. So may i ask did someone drove all cars. I know mphile did. And he also stated the GT was the fastest but he didnt pick it.
I am not complaining I am confident enough to say I wont finish last even if I wake up and drive car and track for the first time. Arrogant German:gtpflag:.
And i woild not make a thing out of it. But everbody saying the driver makes the car win bla bla is just ********.
Its right for the gt3 cars. Setup Practice etc make the difference there but its not true here.

And I dont know why I get that much hate from you tjger. Its not that hard to drive 5 laps in each car to see that the Specs from the Ford are off.

Car is too fast. Period. And everybody knows it.
 

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