Sport modes biggest failing for the slow to average driver.

[Tassie_tiger]

*Snip*
One thing that has mixed up some of the predictability is the DR resets and the alternate accounts where actual high level racers are racing within a lower DR ranking than what there skillset and pace place them.

Yes you may find a high level B driver on the cusp of going to the next level running faster than some A drivers but it would not be normal for a true B ranked driver to finish ahead due to a faster pace than a true A+ level racer. If that true B racer finished in front of that A+ racer he probably either screwed up somewhere or was taken out and sent off track in another incident.

Sure its possible that the car or track can influence the odds a bit but the A+ driver is expected to adapt quicker as experience and his generally better racecraft along with his pace is why he is within the A+ rankings to begin with.
*Snip*

I responded specifically to the section I highlighted.

Irrespective of whether people are B but should be A, or any other reason you can think of, the lobby is what the lobby is.
It is not a matter of "A rated drivers who currently race in the privileged position of only having 2 or 3 real contenders on the grid that are picking up easy wins."
Nor is it the case that "A change to the matching process would mean they have to try harder in general".

Once again, unless you are a top 10 driver, and probably even then, everyone is "trying" pretty damn hard.
And a win is certainly not "easy".

 

[Outspacer]

I'm not sure how data being collected here, did all of players data have been collected to get the 1040809 number ? I heard it can take days to get all 5+ millions players data because of slow query/data gathering, but during those days, players data fluctuate/changes every time there are races in Sport mode. Do these changes taken into account ? That DR S, SR B with only 5 players, how long is that number can be depended on ? will that change in near future ? A day or two ? I wonder how many DR S/ SR B active players are there in truth, 5 ?

Just wondering now, all of those players in the stats also do not always race in every event, so encountering DR S, SR B driver in a race would be like finding ultra rare gem ?

And to be clear, I do not ever say they are wrong, I stated my view, that those stats site, for me are not accurate as I expected, reliable/trustworthy, which why I said before I won't use those site to making conclusions. Now if they can be accurate/reliable, could anyone show me how they can ? Preferably with sound comparison or data or whatever that could sway me.

They are way more than accurate enough. How accurate do you want?! I'd say jasguer's is at least 99% accurate (a conservative estimate), and that's plenty good enough for drawing other conclusions from. Honestly, it just sounds like you'd rather not believe the conclusions - if you'd like to believe there are 2 or 3 times the number of players or whatever, then go ahead, but it's far far away from what's indicated by the stats - and your expectations don't change that.

So it takes a few days to collect the data, and of course some profiles change in that time. Since the stats haven't been changing much from scan to scan (which could be weeks apart), it's fair to say that the error (from the scan taking a few days) is a lot smaller than the change between two scans. In other words, negligible.

DR S, SR B is a tiny number because there's a DR reset at SR <60 that will move them down to DR A. Players at that DR level do all they can to avoid falling that far in SR. The number of DR S SR A players is also small compared to the number at SR S, and if you extrapolated that down you'd also get some single-digit number for DR S SR B. Of course we can't say "it is 5", but we can say it's typically a tiny number. It's simply not as unexpected as you think it is.

 

[VFOURMAX1]

V4
I am sorry if you felt intimidated by being addressed. Didn’t mean that.
So I expect you will continue broadcasting your core narrative that the game is broken as you put it and repeatedly use your wordsmithing skill aggressively to do your best to counter all opposing views.
Again. It was already shown earlier in the thread that the op was confused about how the rating system worked and mistaken.
Many good patient and truthful folks here have repeatedly pointed out why you can’t have the game revolve around yourself. Millions own the game. I think I know what’s going on here after reading a bit and I believe I mentioned it in one of my first posts in this thread as a theory.
Clearly you have no intent to be honest with me and I had hoped my initial impressions were not true.
You are an excellent wordsmith. Full use of the straw man technique as well as further advanced techniques used by many people who troll such as asking questions which assume your own desired (I think you implied core message ie the game is broken) conclusions and many others such as quoting pages old posts out of context to try to make others fit whatever wordsmithing nonsense you are trying to spin.
As for me you have done nothing but reinforce my existing viewpoint.
Buying a game is not buying a right to defeat others at the game. I am sorry you are more interested in wordsmithing than truth but not surprised.
Like I said before sit down. Take a deep breath. Have a cup of coffee and relax.
We are talking GT Sport (the real driving simulator)

If you think you intimidated me then your reading comprehension is lower than what I had previously given you credit for.

The OP actually was not confused as to what was advertised by the game as to what the Sport Mode matching was claiming it was going to deliver.

The only ones that seem to care about the game revolving around themselves are those that are satisfied with a broken system that is not delivering what it promised.

There have been plenty of excuses made as to why it does not work right mainly low player counts but still does not change the fact it does not deliver as advertised.

Wordsmithing or strawman accusations are nothing but a way to defer away from the supporting FACTUAL evidence which is written plainly on the official GTS site and has been posted several times within this thread as I am not aware of any other OFFICIAL GTS release that refutes or in any way supports all the excuses or reasons that many choose to post to try to change the facts with opinions and no facts to support the claims.

So yes, when I feel like posting concerning this subject I will, I actually could care less what you think and if I were to question the honesty or accuracy of many of the things posted in this thread it is worth a chuckle that you choose to claim my intent is not honest as I am one of the fewer members in this thread whose post and opinions are based off of statements made and taken directly from the GTS site and PD the studio that created the game.

But you do whatever it is you think you do best!

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

They are way more than accurate enough. How accurate do you want?! I'd say jasguer's is at least 99% accurate (a conservative estimate), and that's plenty good enough for drawing other conclusions from. Honestly, it just sounds like you'd rather not believe the conclusions - if you'd like to believe there are 2 or 3 times the number of players or whatever, then go ahead, but it's far far away from what's indicated by the stats - and your expectations don't change that.

So it takes a few days to collect the data, and of course some profiles change in that time. Since the stats haven't been changing much from scan to scan (which could be weeks apart), it's fair to say that the error (from the scan taking a few days) is a lot smaller than the change between two scans. In other words, negligible.

DR S, SR B is a tiny number because there's a DR reset at SR <60 that will move them down to DR A. Players at that DR level do all they can to avoid falling that far in SR. The number of DR S SR A players is also small compared to the number at SR S, and if you extrapolated that down you'd also get some single-digit number for DR S SR B. Of course we can't say "it is 5", but we can say it's typically a tiny number. It's simply not as unexpected as you think it is.

Why are you so concerned about me not trusting the stat ? I just can't put myself with same line of thought as yours. For making conclusions, I would prefer 100% accuracy, taken at least daily from all data available from PD server, not sure if that's possible, but I do wish PD provide comprehensive real time stats on their site updated every 12 hours or so ( that would be my go to ). If you think that stat is 99% accurate, that's your right, and I won't stop you.

By the way, do you know how the stat data from Jason Guernsey are collected, did he collect all profiles data ? or he used very small sample size in random ? This is for that DR/SR combined stat in particular.

 

[Outspacer]

Why are you so concerned about me not trusting the stat ? I just can't put myself with same line of thought as yours. For making conclusions, I would prefer 100% accuracy, taken at least daily from all data available from PD server, not sure if that's possible, but I do wish PD provide comprehensive real time stats on their site updated every 12 hours or so ( that would be my go to ). If you think that stat is 99% accurate, that's your right, and I won't stop you.

By the way, do you know how the stat data from Jason Guernsey are collected, did he collect all profiles data ? or he used very small sample size in random ? This is for that DR/SR combined stat in particular.

It concerns me because you are trying very hard to cast doubt on the validity of the stats with your posts, with no basis whatsoever for your lack of trust.

You've already been told and shown that Jasguer scans all the profiles and not a small sample. Then you tried to cast doubt by saying it took days to collect and some would've changed. Then you query how accurate the smallest number around is - when nobody cares about whether that group is 5 or 500, and nobody has drawn any contentious conclusions from it. Are we going to go round in circles with you clutching at straws? He does a full scan, of course he uses that data for the DR/SR combined stat.

Which conclusions based on stats do you find hard to believe? Ah, daily player count. Well, sorry, but it is low compared to how PD have designed the matchmaking algorithms. I'll always add that last qualifier rather than simply say "it is low". The daily player count stat could be out by 50% and it wouldn't matter, because whatever the actual number is it is too low to provide good matching in races most of the time.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

So basically to break that down in a nutshell that a low level even down to a D ranking racer does not deserve to win a race until he is a top racer in the A ranking if he is being used foe a grid filler! His work to be a top rated D racer is considered no effort or insignificant by the top guys.

What's the point of a win if your lap time is trash? It's a paper trophy.

From my perspective most people just don't have the humility to accept their disposition nor the personal drive to improve themselves. That occurs throughout their personal lives and extends into their gaming. Most people are not success stories and a game built upon real victories is doomed to only appeal to a niche of players who accept their lack of skill and/or who excel at self motivating themselves for personal challenges.

I personally lack the motivation to excel at this game and I'm content racing cleanly in the middle of the pack with the rest of the weekend warriors. My goal posts are relative to where I'm at and what seems reasonable.

So now lets look at the game industry. They have the objective of trying to appeal to a mass market in a world where a majority of people are unambitious and unmotivated. People that love grind/time based rewards that require spent hours and dollars rather than an intentionally developed skill.

GT Sport's design is probably too focused for eSports to be profitable on the mass market. Using Overwatch as an example, they spend money and effort developing competitive content for their niche player base in order to make them ambassadors of the product. Esports is really your marketing arm of your development approach. Meanwhile, they have to churn out constantly changing arcade game modes, loser trophies for everyone, obfuscated K/D ratios, and other coddling practices in order to give people a false sense of achievement while they chase the carrot.

GT Sport could definitely benefit from an effort like that. Hopefully, they can view dirty driving as an alternative discipline and let people win their sloppy paper trophies over there while the niche clean players build up the marketing profile of the game. Or something like that.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

It concerns me because you are trying very hard to cast doubt on the validity of the stats with your posts, with no basis whatsoever for your lack of trust.

You've already been told and shown that Jasguer scans all the profiles and not a small sample. Then you tried to cast doubt by saying it took days to collect and some would've changed. Then you query how accurate the smallest number around is - when nobody cares about whether that group is 5 or 500, and nobody has drawn any contentious conclusions from it. Are we going to go round in circles with you clutching at straws? He does a full scan, of course he uses that data for the DR/SR combined stat.

Which conclusions based on stats do you find hard to believe? Ah, daily player count. Well, sorry, but it is low compared to how PD have designed the matchmaking algorithms. I'll always add that last qualifier rather than simply say "it is low". The daily player count stat could be out by 50% and it wouldn't matter, because whatever the actual number is it is too low to provide good matching in races most of the time.

Ok, I'm not allowed to say that I don't trust the stats, gotcha 👍 I'll be on my way, there's no point continuing this.

 

[Darwock]

I responded specifically to the section I highlighted.

Irrespective of whether people are B but should be A, or any other reason you can think of, the lobby is what the lobby is.
It is not a matter of "A rated drivers who currently race in the privileged position of only having 2 or 3 real contenders on the grid that are picking up easy wins."
Nor is it the case that "A change to the matching process would mean they have to try harder in general".

Once again, unless you are a top 10 driver, and probably even then, everyone is "trying" pretty damn hard.
And a win is certainly not "easy".

I disagree, being one of the two or three higher class drivers in a grid full of lower class drivers *is* easy. Or perhaps I should say 'easier'. I know this because I have had a couple of big SR bumps in my time (one network outage dropped me all the way back to D/E or something like that) and I ended up racing against weaker competition. That rectified itself as my ratings normalised, and I was soon tootling around at the back making up the numbers again.

My experience was created by an abnormal situation. I could re-create it by deliberately tanking my ratings but I don't wish to do that. The A/A+ drivers that get gifted grids with one or two similar rated drivers and 10 lesser rated drivers are being given the same advantage automatically, without any need to tank their ratings. It's most definitely unfair.

There is plenty of evidence on this thread alone to show that the grids are often being populated with something like 4 As at the front and 8 Ds behind with no hope of keeping up. It's not only the top 10 drivers that get to see this. Splitting those grids into 8-12 As in a race of their own, and another race with 8-12 Ds, would mean everybody has to face a similar challenge and would be much fairer.

 

[_ApexPredator]

I can't remember the last time I saw a full A/S room. Actually I can, since it is so rare. It was the first day of Saint Croix, one room with A+/S and A/S and only 1 B/S grid filler. So close! A full A+/S room, has anyone ever seen that?

It's not that rare :S I did 2 Dailies last night and both grids looked like this:
[Ignore my slow quali plz, late at night and I didn't know you could tune ]

 

[rono_thomas]

Ok, I'm not allowed to say that I don't trust the stats, gotcha 👍 I'll be on my way, there's no point continuing this.

Have you played GTS?

 

[kjeldsen]

What's the point of a win if your lap time is trash? It's a paper trophy.

From my perspective most people just don't have the humility to accept their disposition nor the personal drive to improve themselves. That occurs throughout their personal lives and extends into their gaming. Most people are not success stories and a game built upon real victories is doomed to only appeal to a niche of players who accept their lack of skill and/or who excel at self motivating themselves for personal challenges.

I personally lack the motivation to excel at this game and I'm content racing cleanly in the middle of the pack with the rest of the weekend warriors. My goal posts are relative to where I'm at and what seems reasonable.

So now lets look at the game industry. They have the objective of trying to appeal to a mass market in a world where a majority of people are unambitious and unmotivated. People that love grind/time based rewards that require spent hours and dollars rather than an intentionally developed skill.

GT Sport's design is probably too focused for eSports to be profitable on the mass market. Using Overwatch as an example, they spend money and effort developing competitive content for their niche player base in order to make them ambassadors of the product. Esports is really your marketing arm of your development approach. Meanwhile, they have to churn out constantly changing arcade game modes, loser trophies for everyone, obfuscated K/D ratios, and other coddling practices in order to give people a false sense of achievement while they chase the carrot.

GT Sport could definitely benefit from an effort like that. Hopefully, they can view dirty driving as an alternative discipline and let people win their sloppy paper trophies over there while the niche clean players build up the marketing profile of the game. Or something like that.

So what you are saying here is that besides the player with the fastest total race time the rest just suck. And the only accepted achievement is being the best. Also, weigth class divided boxing should just stop, and if you are not doing 250 laps to get the pole you can not be serious.

It doesn't come into your head that among those 5.000.000 people only a tiny fraction will want to invest enough in the game to be the best and among those very few will have the natural speed and talent to do it? So to hell with what is left? The idea of match making is to match players so that they compete on a equal level. Racing for the 17th place and not even seeing the finish line is simply not a great way to play for those vast majority of players and the judgement that is made on these people here sucks. It is such an elitist community destroying attitude.

most people just don't have the humility to accept their disposition nor the personal drive to improve themselves. That occurs throughout their personal lives and extends into their gaming

Wtf

 

[Woodybobs]

Ok, I'm not allowed to say that I don't trust the stats, gotcha 👍 I'll be on my way, there's no point continuing this.

Bring some evidence. You've used your 'beliefs' to make a point. We're not allowed to respond?

 

[VFOURMAX1]

It's not that rare :S I did 2 Dailies last night and both grids looked like this:

A lobby like that may be considered common on the EU server with the larger amount of players available but the NA server and its smaller player base is an entirely different story.

 

[_ApexPredator]

A lobby like that may be considered common on the EU server with the larger amount of players available but the NA server and its smaller player base is an entirely different story.

Right. The OP is from the UK though.

 

[Woodybobs]

A lobby like that may be considered common on the EU server with the larger amount of players available but the NA server and its smaller player base is an entirely different story.

We're gonna need stats. Obviously compiling them would be a lengthy process and I don't expect you to have, or get, them. Without them it's difficult to assess if this is really a problem. OP's win record suggests he's competitive in quite a few lobbies.

 

[Sander 001]

Yes but PD shouldn't introduce changes because some people want to get the trophies quicker and leave.

Level progression, unlocks, earnings are all so small in Sport it would make no difference.
Why hand out wins to someone beating 5 people when most people have to win against 20? Winning would be devalued.
SR and DR would be unaffected by introducing class results

Get the trophies quicker? The Schumacher trophy has been earned by 0.1% of players, the absolute lowest a trophy can go, there’s nothing quick about it. It’s the other way around: People are leaving because it’s unattainable.

Or other players have figured out how to game the system as in winning is devalued since you can just ram people, lower your SR and have an easy race the next time.

 

[Riptide]

Depending on one's interpretation of PD's wording on how the matchmaking will work, I can somewhat agree that the current matchmaking system on literal interpretation is not the same as what they "offered". However, comparing GTS to other leading racing games, I think GTS has one of the better matchmaking systems around and I'm quite happy with it as is [even though it brings frustration every now and then].

"most people just don't have the humility to accept their disposition nor the personal drive to improve themselves. That occurs throughout their personal lives and extends into their gaming"

The statement above by BallPtPen might be frowned upon, but it's a spot on observation and one of the reasons of a sometimes new aged screwed up society. Perhaps it's time to rather than spending hours on this forum writing 10 paragraph essays on what you believe or what you want, to rid yourself of reasons why you cannot improve and start putting in a serious effort to improve yourself in GTS. That is the only way to get on the better side of the GTS system - history has proven that PD certainly won't do it for you. ,

 

[Veinz]

The truth hurts.

 

[Outspacer]

Right. The OP is from the UK though.

UK gets pretty quiet later into the evening, by midnight-ish it had usually switched to the poor matching.

We're gonna need stats. Obviously compiling them would be a lengthy process and I don't expect you to have, or get, them. Without them it's difficult to assess if this is really a problem. OP's win record suggests he's competitive in quite a few lobbies.

Could work from the other end, the DR calc. Even if half the lobby is A/A+ and the rest is D, finishing at the head of the Ds would be a DR gain. OP's win rate indicates that OP's DR is below what it should be, but I don't think the matching is the reason - OP admits to pushing too hard when starting behind a much faster driver, causing mistakes and losing positions. Seems that has more to do with temperament!

 

[VFOURMAX1]

I can't remember the last time I saw a full A/S room. Actually I can, since it is so rare. It was the first day of Saint Croix, one room with A+/S and A/S and only 1 B/S grid filler. So close! A full A+/S room, has anyone ever seen that?

Right. The OP is from the UK though

My response has absolutely nothing to do with the OP just as your response to Sven was not about the OP but Sven relaying his experiences to when the last time he remembered seeing a full A/S only room.

I in my experience at my level rarely encountered seeing many single DR ranking lobbies but of course I would not see the A only rooms as I am below that level.

But both the experience of Sven and myself would relate to the N.A. regions lobbies.
What you posted was from the E.U. region which from my understanding boast a much higher player sport mode player base than the N.A. and that could be a contributing factor to why it may be different from one region to the next.

How pointing out that fact changed it to being that the OP was from the EU region affects the comment that Sven made from his observation on the N.A. region still has me somewhat baffled.

 

[Mr616]

It's not that rare :S I did 2 Dailies last night and both grids looked like this:
[Ignore my slow quali plz, late at night and I didn't know you could tune ]

I can second this.

Although I've not played so much recently due to RL commitments, I did join my first race in a while and most on that grid were DR A+ and DR S, with maybe x2 DR B.

We're just faster this side of the pond

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

So what you are saying here is..

Full stop.

When people write that, I disregard everything they write after that. What you're doing is making a straw man claim on my behalf for something I never said. Me responding to your question would reaffirm your false presupposition. So by default I can't respond to you because your point is built off of a claim I never made. Respond to what I wrote and I'll gladly respond back.

 

[AUTISTICBOYX]

We're gonna need stats. Obviously compiling them would be a lengthy process and I don't expect you to have, or get, them. Without them it's difficult to assess if this is really a problem. OP's win record suggests he's competitive in quite a few lobbies.

If anything, OP's win record given the extensive amount of races is a testament to a well-functioning system overall. All i see is a man with a repulsive affinity for greed and self-entitlement. A win comes in many ways, its incredibly shallow and narrow-minded to perceive it only as crossing the line first. In my mother tongue we have this idiomatic expression that can be loosely translated to "having a race within a race". Depicting a local contest within the frame of a bigger picture. Its a matter of perspective and humility, which goes a long way.

 

[Woodybobs]

Get the trophies quicker? The Schumacher trophy has been earned by 0.1% of players, the absolute lowest a trophy can go, there’s nothing quick about it. It’s the other way around: People are leaving because it’s unattainable.

Or other players have figured out how to game the system as in winning is devalued since you can just ram people, lower your SR and have an easy race the next time.

What are you talking about? I didn't say quick, I said quicker. One suggests a short period of time, the other suggests a shorter period of time than an original, irrespective of how long the original is.

I'll say it again. So what if people don't get the trophy. It only sucks for them. Why should PD care if they're going to leave anyway?

 

[Sander 001]

Depending on one's interpretation of PD's wording on how the matchmaking will work, I can somewhat agree that the current matchmaking system on literal interpretation is not the same as what they "offered". However, comparing GTS to other leading racing games, I think GTS has one of the better matchmaking systems around and I'm quite happy with it as is [even though it brings frustration every now and then].

"most people just don't have the humility to accept their disposition nor the personal drive to improve themselves. That occurs throughout their personal lives and extends into their gaming"

The statement above by BallPtPen might be frowned upon, but it's a spot on observation and one of the reasons of a sometimes new aged screwed up society. Perhaps it's time to rather than spending hours on this forum writing 10 paragraph essays on what you believe or what you want, to rid yourself of reasons why you cannot improve and start putting in a serious effort to improve yourself in GTS. That is the only way to get on the better side of the GTS system - history has proven that PD certainly won't do it for you. ,

New aged screwed up society? I love how this false narrative of how the new generation has somehow screwed up the world when the older generation is the ones in power. Or that the idea the new generation is entitled keeps trucking along when in reality it’s the older generation like baby boomers who received far more entitlements.


https://www.independent.co.uk/life-...omeowner-income-study-house-car-a7742411.html

Not to mention things like skyrocketing student loan debts.

 

[VFOURMAX1]

Perhaps it's time to rather than spending hours on this forum writing 10 paragraph essays on what you believe or what you want, to rid yourself of reasons why you cannot improve and start putting in a serious effort to improve yourself in GTS.

So just because you fail to understand that many racers are content with the pace they run for whatever their reasons which actually are unimportant to anyone but themselves and their own enjoyment and have no desire to pursue the very top levels of the game then those lower level players do not deserve any rewards because of the level they play the game. lol!

The truth hurts.

The truth does hurt apparently the OP's original complaint is about unfair lobbies and as the consensus being the matching problems stems mainly from lack of players.
In my opinion the current way the system is applied and which so many in this thread seem to think is fine is one of the main reasons in all probability that Sport mode has always had problems retaining the newer players as the numbers have proven.
Also as the more casual lower level players that did stick around for a while get frustrated and sick of being in races that a top 5 becomes a wish or bucket list item because of being placed in unfair lobbies and quits and goes to play something else it just compounds the original problem even worse.

So yes, the truth hurts and GTS sport mode is not in very good shape from a player standpoint and if you think otherwise and everything is fine as is enjoy watching it die a painful death!

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

The statement above by BallPtPen might be frowned upon, but it's a spot on observation and one of the reasons of a sometimes new aged screwed up society. Perhaps it's time to rather than spending hours on this forum writing 10 paragraph essays on what you believe or what you want, to rid yourself of reasons why you cannot improve and start putting in a serious effort to improve yourself in GTS. That is the only way to get on the better side of the GTS system - history has proven that PD certainly won't do it for you. ,

Just for the sake of clarity, are you suggesting society is screwed up because people aren't taking their video games seriously?

 

[Riptide]

New aged screwed up society? I love how this false narrative of how the new generation has somehow screwed up the world when the older generation is the ones in power. Or that the idea the new generation is entitled keeps trucking along when in reality it’s the older generation like baby boomers who received far more entitlements.


Not to mention things like skyrocketing student loan debts.

An even more screwed up narrative and to such mentality I don't respond to. Phone me when you're 18.

 

[Riptide]

Just for the sake of clarity, are you suggesting society is screwed up because people aren't taking their video games seriously?

Certainly not - I'm more referring to an increase in a demanding society in general with an unbelievable entitlement.

PS. I do respect if a person has a genuine limitation and can then understand his frustrations, but from this thread I have only seen the OP in that category.

 

[_ApexPredator]

But both the experience of Sven and myself would relate to the N.A. regions lobbies.

How pointing out that fact changed it to being that the OP was from the EU region affects the comment that Sven made from his observation on the N.A. region still has me somewhat baffled.

No problem, happy to explain it to you.

You're using anecdotal evidence from Sven and yourself to support arguments made both by yourself and the OP.
Sven made the claim that he "can't remember the last time [he] saw a full A/S room. Actually [he] can, since it is so rare" to bolster the OPs argument which you've continued to punt.
I simply posted that it can't be all that rare if out of the two races I entered last night both met his criteria, to which your response was "well it might be common over there but it isn't here" - words to that effect.

Fair enough, but then I would argue your anecdotal "evidence" a long with Sven's vast experience that you cite now carry less weight in support of the original claims.

There is no great conspiracy! The OP has over 200 wins, so it's still baffling to me why you continue to push this unfairness line - it's pretty clear that he can't be getting matched with >As all of the time, and it's been explained ad nauseam that it doesn't get any easier the higher up you get, and when there are lobby mismatches it's as bad for all parties involved.

Perhaps it is more of a problem on the NA server. No one is denying that the matchmaking isn't perfect due to the player pooling, but the reason you keep being accused of straw manning is because you keep bringing in this bizarre angle of As rubbing their hands with glee whenever they see an underpopulated lobby of "fish in a barrel", to use your words.