A punt, a graze, a nudge, what's the difference? I made it clear that it was a small amount of contact, which did not result in the other car leaving the track or hitting the wall. Of course I'm being defensive - I've admitted to tapping the back of another car and everyone is acting like I'm some torpedo who purposely smashes players off at every turn. Before this thread i'd never even heard of players "giving back" places in online racing. Having only raced online in games like Forza, Racedriver Grid, and GTA Online racing, I've experienced plenty of dirty racing, and never giving any places back. If I was in an organised league where that behaviour is understood to be "how it's done", then I'd certainly oblige, but when being thrown in with randoms, I can't say I have any plan to concede places for any accidental contact. If you're playing by a different set of standards to the majority of the pack then you're never going to get anywhere.
When i said "revenge was tempting", that was regarding a completely different incident, where somebody attempted to pit manoeuvre me on purpose and caused me to go off the track. I also stated that I didn't touch him and just drove around him cleanly when I caught him.
No, I'm using the game angle to point our how stupid it is to start saying I'm devoid of morals. Sure, I didn't concede a place in a video game, but that doesn't mean I'm going to mug your Grandmother in real life. And no, you didn't say I was devoid of morals, but somebody did - evidently some people can't separate the game world from the real one.
No, it's just a game even when you're playing against real people. You must be a blast to play Monopoly with though...
How can you be playing to win or profit from unintentional errors? An unintentional error is just that, unintentional. If you pre-plan it, then it isn't unintentional. This brings me back to the point of my original post - I don't think all contact is made intentionally and actually most of it is probably just the result of a lack of talent/mixed talent within any given race/over exuberance/an expectation to win every race.
I made my post because the tone of the thread seemed to be that everyone online was an idiot and are all out to kill each other. I was trying to point out that actually, in the majority of cases I suspect it's all purely accidental and gave my experience as an example. I'm not out to knock everyone off, in fact I just want a clean race like everyone else, but I'm not perfect. The fact that everyone jumped on me for admitting this, and that I didn't then pull over and concede a place, goes to show that I was right - some people on here get far too precious about a bit of contact and rather than assume it was accidental, would much prefer to start name calling and bitching about "asshats" punting them off.
Either way, it sounds like I'll get a lot more enjoyment out of this game than some here, because I expect the contact and don't expect any concessions if contact happens. As such, I don't get irate with every bit of contact and just enjoy the game. In a real life race everyone has a lot to lose if a crash occurs (potentially their life). In a computer game you have nothing to lose except a few virtual points and a virtual position, so naturally contact is going to occur and it'll occur often. If this upsets you, then maybe this isn't the game for you.