Standard cars and PS1-era cars that deserve the Premium treatment in GT7

[tankuroded]

Picking some entries from the PS3-era cars catalog:

Gr.3
Dodge Viper GTS-R '00
Chevrolet Corvette C5-R '00
Honda NSX-R Prototype LM Race Car
Jaguar XJ220 LM Race Car
Pagani Zonda LM Race Car

Gr.2
Honda NSX GT500 '00 (Mugen Castrol or Raybrig)

Gr.1
Audi R8 '01/'05
BMW V12 LMR
Nissan R89C
Peugeot 905 Evo 1 bis
Toyota GT-One
Toyota Minolta 88C-V
Pescarolo/Courage C60 Hybride

Disputed class
BMW M3 GTR Race Car '01 (doesn't seem to be powerful enough for Gr.3 at 429hp/1120kg but it seems to be too advanced for Gr.4?)
McLaren F1 GTR Longtail (leaning towards Gr.1 per CLK-LM precedent; may not be the BMW Motorsport livery if it does come)
Nissan R390 GT1 (leaning towards Gr.1 per CLK-LM precedent)
Opel Calibra DTM (class pending Alfa 155 classification)

Uncategorized race cars
Formula Gran Turismo
Auto Union Streamliner
Chaparral 2D
Chaparral 2J
Toyota 7

Road cars
Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA 1600 '65
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 '97
Chevrolet Corvette (C4)
Daihatsu Midget II
Ford SVT Lightning F-150
Honda Civic SiR-II (EG)
Honda CR-X SiR
Honda Jazz/Fit (first gen)
Honda NSX-R Prototype LM Road Car (use cockpit from NSX-R '02)
Jaguar XJ220
Mazda Roadster (NB)
Nissan Silvia (S14, both kouki and zenki)
Nismo 400R
Plymouth Superbird '70
Toyota Celica GT-Four (ST205) - could have listed the rally car but it's premo already
Tommy Kaira ZZ-S Coupe
Tommy Kaira ZZ-II
TVR Cerbera Speed 12 '00

Believe me, I was tempted, but I was "playing by the rules" so to speak.

If it were up to me though, the S/tb Type A would make that list for sure.

Oh, very good news!

I mean, some people here also posted PS1-era cars despite the thread being for Standard cars, which meant PS2-era cars.

 

[Cristobal1234]

2022 is near

 

[ScottPuss20]

I mean, some people here also posted PS1-era cars despite the thread being for Standard cars, which meant PS2-era cars.

That is correct but I can't be bothered policing it, because PS1 cars are technically standard cars. They lack an interior and the models are of a low quality. I didn't think people would suggest PS1 cars but anyway.

 

[GTvsForza]

Legendary Gran Turismo car brands that should come back, yeah.

I think Vector closed down years ago and Venturi is in Formula E.

 

[Mr P510]

Wait.......So not ALL cars in GT7 will be of the same quality?

 

[mastretta_mx]

BMW M3 GTR

 

[MIE1992]

BMW M3 GTR

As much as I like homologation specials, I feel like only the race car version of the M3 (E46) GTR that raced in the ALMS would really be needed, as we already have the M3 (E46).

Speaking of BMW, I’d also pick the older 2002 Turbo, as well as both iterations of the M5 that were available in GT6.

 

[Neddo]

Wait.......So not ALL cars in GT7 will be of the same quality?

they will be. Thread title is probably meant to indicate premium GTS level, not GT6/5 level

 

[Victoria H]

Audi S4 '98

 

[ScottPuss20]

Wait.......So not ALL cars in GT7 will be of the same quality?

Read the thread title again.

 

[ViperV10]

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII would be a fine addition. I know there was IX which was already a premium, but not only was VIII faster, it was also the fastest road going Evo we've had. I believe the two fastest versions were RS and GSR MR, so one of these would be great.

 

[linksracer]

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII would be a fine addition. I know there was IX which was already a premium, but not only was VIII faster, it was also the fastest road going Evo we've had. I believe the two fastest versions were RS and GSR MR, so one of these would be the great.

It's debatable whether the VIII MR is the fastest Evo ever made. It really depends on which source of information you use as they all seem to report different power outputs (some follow the Gentlemen's agreement while others use a different figure). The IX MR either makes the same power or more and comes with MIVEC unlike the VIII which gives a better power curve. Then there's the VI TME which weighs less than both the VIII and IX MRs and supposedly makes more power (again depends on which source you use for info as they all seem to report differently), but has an inferior AYC system.

If I was to pick out of the Evo generations I'd probably use the best model from each chassis (III, VI TME, IX MR, X Final Edition).
From what we've seen so far in trailers etc, it looks like we've ended up with all 3 models (IV, V, VI TME) from one chassis (CN9A & CP9A) as well as the X Final Edition.

Hopefully they've included at least 1 CT9A Evo, but based off its absence in the trailers, I'm a bit sceptical.

 

[kraftwerkd]

That is correct but I can't be bothered policing it, because PS1 cars are technically standard cars. They lack an interior and the models are of a low quality. I didn't think people would suggest PS1 cars but anyway.

Yeah, I figured as much but still wanted to denote them separately as they are in a sort of gray area. Still fantastic vehicles for the series though, so seeing them permanently gone would be saddening.

 

[o000o]

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII would be a fine addition. I know there was IX which was already a premium, but not only was VIII faster, it was also the fastest road going Evo we've had. I believe the two fastest versions were RS and GSR MR, so one of these would be the great.

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PP-wise, yeah the RS is the fastest JDM car in GT5-GT6 with 478 PP. Though yeah RS would look uglier (I know it's for weight reduction or such, but it feels like entry level family cars with the side mirror/door handle and the wheels), unlike for example NSX type R (weight reduction too, but the car feels special).

IX was Premium of it debuting in GT5 (it and Evo X).

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

I mean, some people here also posted PS1-era cars despite the thread being for Standard cars, which meant PS2-era cars.

Which is why the thread should be renamed something else. If noone is going to respect the rules, lets just change them to be more open. It makes no sense to make a separate thread for PS1-era cars.

 

[ScottPuss20]

Which is why the thread should be renamed something else. If noone is going to respect the rules, lets just change them to be more open. It makes no sense to make a separate thread for PS1-era cars.

So what, "Standard cars and PS1 era cars that deserve the Premium treatment in GT7?"

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

So what, "Standard cars and PS1 era cars that deserve the Premium treatment in GT7?"

Something like that. or just plain 'cars from past GT games that should return as premiums'.

 

[wagnerFAM98]

So, the new thread name suggests that Gran Turismo 2 is joining the chat?

Boy, I don't even know where to begin...

 

[LeGeNd-1]

PS1-era cars that deserve the Premium treatment in GT7​

Now we're talking

From GT1:
Aston DB7
Cerbera LM
Del Sol LM
Silvia S14 LM
Chaser LM
FTO LM
GTO LM
NSX-R LM GT2 & GT1 Turbo
Demio A-Spec
Nismo 400R
TRD 3000GT

From GT2:
Aston DB6 (though we're getting DB5, which is good enough)
BMW 840Ci
Ford GT90
Jaguar XJ220 & XJR15
Lister Storm (road & race)
Lotus Esprit (road & GT1)
TVR Speed 12
Opel Calibra Touring
Espace F1
Venturi Atlantique
Vector M12 & Wiegert W8
Muscle cars (Mercury Cougar, Plymouth Cuda/GTX/Roadrunner/Superbird, Shelby GT500)
HKS Drag R33 & 180SX
R390 (road & race)
Skyline Silhouette Formula
Stagea Autech
Toyota GT-One (road & race)
BP Apex Kraft Trueno
Subaru 360
Suzuki Escudo & Cultus Pikes Peak

 

[Ruhanah]

Buick GNX '87

 

[Ruhanah]

Nissan Skyline H/T 2000GT-R (KPGC110) '73

 

[racedevil70]

Mikael from sweden How come (almost) no one even mention All great m-b cars AMG or not?Or AMC's cars?Amc did the Javelin.Amx and the Matador and many more.The Matador was in the NasCar series under -74 - 76.So if you want some odd-ball cars and not the tractorcompany's from Italy (read lambo,ferrarri and the other make's) or a vw bug that's flattend,widen,stretched and 2 more cylinders in the a** a.k.a porsche.Not everyone is found of them as you might think.Just like soccer or football depending of your origin.All of us GT's might not like to be forced to like soccer or "exotic" cars

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

Mikael from sweden How come (almost) no one even mention All great m-b cars AMG or not?Or AMC's cars?Amc did the Javelin.Amx and the Matador and many more.The Matador was in the NasCar series under -74 - 76.So if you want some odd-ball cars

Well hi, welcome to GTPlanet.

With that said, there are plenty of people on this forum that mentioned the very things you're talking about. There's a suggestions section of GTPlanet made for that purpose, which includes multiple Mercedes-benz and AMC models. Though I'm confused on how you never heard anyone placing any Mercedes-Benz cars on their wishlists, I've seen plenty of those mentioned.

Secondly though, I would advise looking somewhere else if you want to talk about those. Because this thread is just about cars from GT1-4 we want back. Well, unless you want to mention your favorite oddball cars from the PS1 & PS2 era to become premium.

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Okay, the rules changed, I'm listing the PS1 era cars now.

Spoiler: PS1 era cars

Acura:
- Integra GSR (DC2) 1998
- Integra GSR Racing Mod 1998, except now as the race car it's based on.

Audi:
- TT LM Race Car 1999

Chevrolet:
- Camaro Z/28 RS Package 1969
- Camaro SS 1997
- Corvette Grand Sport Race Car 1963 (was a RM in GT2)
- Corvette L88 AIR Race Car 1969 (RM in GT2)
- Corvette Morrison Motorsports IMSA Race Car (RM in GT1 & 2)

Daihatsu:
- Mira TR-XX 1990
- Move Custom RS Aerodown

Dodge:
- Neon R/T 1998
- Viper GTS-R Team Oreca 1999
- STP Taisan Viper

Ford:
- Puma 1998
- Mondeo BTCC 1998
- Taurus #6 Mark Martin NASCAR 1998
- Mustang SVT Cobra 1998
- Mustang SVT Cobra 1999
- GT90 Concept

Honda:
- Civic Ferio SiR 1993
- Civic 3-Door SiR 1998
- Civic Ferio SiR 1998
- Integra SiR-G 1998
- NSX-R LM GT2 1995
- NSX JGTC 1998
- NSX JGTC 1999

Lotus:
- Esprit GT1
- Elise GT1

Mitsubishi:
- Galant VR-4 1998
- Galant Super VR-4 1999
- Legnum Super VR-4 1999
- GTO LM Race Car 1997
- GTO LM Race Car 1999
- FTO JGTC GT300 1999

Nissan:
- March Super Turbo 1989
- Pulsar GTI-R 1991
- Pulsar GTI-R WRC
- Pulsar Serie VZ-R N1 1998
- Primera BTCC 1998
- Skyline GTS25t Type M (R33) 1996, it would be cool to have Skylines that are not GT-Rs
- Skyline 280 Type MR (R33)
- Skyline 2.5GT Turbo (R34) 1998
- Nismo GT-R LM (R33) Race Car 1995
- Skyline Zexel JGTC (R33) 1997
- Skyline Unisia Jecs JGTC 1999

Peugeot:
- 306 S16 1998
- 306 WRC (RM in GT2)
- 406 Sedan 1998
- 406 BTCC 1998 (RM in GT2)

Renault:
- Espace F1
- Laguna
- Laguna BTCC 1998 (RM in GT2)

Saleen:
- SR Widebody 1999

Shelby
- GT500 KR Convertible 1968

Toyota:
- Altezza 280t Tuned by Tom's 1998
- Chaser Tourer V 1996
- Mark II Tourer V 1993
- TRD Chaser Silhouette Race Car (TRD X30 Chaser RM in GT2)
- Supra GT1 LM Denso Sard 1995 (1995 Supra RM in GT1)
- Supra Castrol JGTC 1996
- Supra Cerumo One JGTC 1999

Vauxhall:
- Vectra GSI 1998
- Vectra BTCC 1998

Vector:
- W8 Twin Turbo
- M12
- M12 GT2 LM Race Car

Venturi:
- Atlantique 300GT
- Atlantique 400GT
- Atlantique 600LM

 

[racedevil70]

Well hi, welcome to GTPlanet.

With that said, there are plenty of people on this forum that mentioned the very things you're talking about. There's a suggestions section of GTPlanet made for that purpose, which includes multiple Mercedes-benz and AMC models. Though I'm confused on how you never heard anyone placing any Mercedes-Benz cars on their wishlists, I've seen plenty of those mentioned.

Secondly though, I would advise looking somewhere else if you want to talk about those. Because this thread is just about cars from GT1-4 we want back.

I've noticed the (w201) 190 2.5 16v evo 2 clk and e55 but the gullwing was present in gt4 or am i misstaken?It's so long ago i've played them.I had them all untill ps4 came out.To expensive for me back then. But some old era cars that i miss in a way or two is the 4x4 Pulsar from GT1 or 2 and the White Swan Mazda cosmo

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

I've noticed the (w201) 190 2.5 16v evo 2 clk and e55 but the gullwing was present in gt4 or am i misstaken?It's so long ago i've played them.

Yup, they were in Gran Turismo 4, 5, 6, and PSP. Neither made it to the gt sport, but another 300SL was recently confirmed for GT7 already. Though, it's the W194 version this time:

But some old era cars that i miss in a way or two is the 4x4 Pulsar from GT1 or 2 and the White Swan Mazda cosmo

Great choices. The Pulsar GTI-R is one of my favorite cars to start with in GT2.

 

[ViperV10]

It's debatable whether the VIII MR is the fastest Evo ever made.

I meant to say that VIII was the fastest we've had in Gran Turismo games. Talking about the fastest ever made, that would be one of the special FQ versions which had over 400 HP.

PP-wise, yeah the RS is the fastest JDM car in GT5-GT6 with 478 PP. Though yeah RS would look uglier (I know it's for weight reduction or such, but it feels like entry level family cars with the side mirror/door handle and the wheels), unlike for example NSX type R (weight reduction too, but the car feels special).

IX was Premium of it debuting in GT5 (it and Evo X).

Strangely, despite having the highest PP, it wasn't the fastest JDM, but still one of the fastest. And it sure does look uglier than other VIII versions 😁

 

[Sambreero]

There is my wishlist about this thread:

Alfa Romeo 156

Audi S4 (B5)

Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 (C4)

Citroen Saxo 1.6i VTS

Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Oreca '99

Fiat Punto GT

Ford Escort Rally Car '98

Ford Focus Rally Car '99

Ford Mondeo Ghia X 2.5i 24V

Ford Mustang SVT Cobra '98

Ford Mustang SVT Cobra ´99

Ford Puma 1.7 Zetec-SE VCT

Ford RS200 Rally Car

Honda Civic SiR-II (EG) ´93

Honda Civic Ferio SiR (EG)

Honda CR-X Si ´90

Honda Mobil 1 NSX GT (JGTC) ´99

Lancia Delta S4 Rally Car '85

Mazda 323F ´93

Mazda Familia GT-R '92

Mercedes-Benz AMG C43

Mercedes-Benz AMG E55

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution III GSR '95

Nissan Primera 2.0 TE-V '98

Nissan Pulsar GTi-R '91

Nissan Pulsar VZ-R N1 '97

Nissan Skyline GTS-R (R31) '87

Nissan Skyline Silhouette Formula (R30)

Opel Tigra Ice Race Car

Peugeot 106 1.6 S16

Peugeot 206 Rally Car '99

Peugeot 306 S16

Peugeot 406 Sedan

Renault Laguna V6

Renault Megane 2.0 16v Coupe

Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX '94

Toyota TRD 3000GT

Vauxhall Astra SRi 2.0 16v

Vauxhall Corsa Sport 1.6i 16V

Vauxhall Vectra GSi 2.5 V6

 

[racedevil70]

Yup, they were in Gran Turismo 4, 5, 6, and PSP. Neither made it to the PSP, but another 300SL was recently confirmed for GT7 already. Though, it's the W194 version this time:
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Great choices. The Pulsar GTI-R is one of my favorite cars to start with in GT2.

It's the first gullwing for carshows but the commercial gullwing started production in 1953.I might be misstaken.And yes the Pulsar was a fun car to fiddle around with.Both standard or my version with some goodies.I never maxed it out but just the first steps and the fullrace suspension.That's how i liked it

 

[Sharpie]

 

[racedevil70]

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The 4x4 Fto....Nice!