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Not sure if you knew that photo is fake or not, but it is. Filming starts on the 16th, which is today or tomorrow depending on what time it is where you are when I post this.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=118402

haha I know it's a gag... that's me in the photo

 

[CodeRedR51]

haha I know it's a gag... that's me in the photo

Ah, didn't know that.

 

[Cap'n Jack]

haha I know it's a gag... that's me in the photo

You're working on the set of Star Wars!?

 

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You're working on the set of Star Wars!?

I wish. Just being silly with a clap board.

 

[CodeRedR51]

This is pretty cool. Donate money to UNICEF and win prizes, including a chance to be in Episode VII.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=118622

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Disney have confirmed that the first spin-off will be released on 16 December 2016, with GODZILLA's Gareth Edwards directing and THE WALKING DEAD's Gary Whitta writing.

 

[Wiegert]

Game of Thrones' Gwendoline Christie and 12 Years a Slave's Lupita Nyong’o join the Episode VII cast

Cue the various Darth/Tarth-related puns.

 

[Sanji Himura]

22 photos of the Millennium Falcon and a X-Wing under construction were leaked this morning:

http://www.theverge.com/2014/6/3/57...-leaked-millennium-falcon-construction-photos

 

[Cap'n Jack]

Lots of on-set photos leeking through to the internet, it's great! So exciting! Here's another bunch of interesting ones: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...creature-R2-droids-extras-taking-selfies.html

 

[Wiegert]

Apparently this won't prove to be much of a setback, but Ford's ankle might appreciate some time off after he injured it during filming at Pinewood.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...g-filming-for-new-star-wars-film-9533466.html

 

[CodeRedR51]

Surprised with all the leaked set photos over the last couple months that this dropped to the 2nd page.

New storm trooper helmet design:

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Surprised with all the leaked set photos over the last couple months that this dropped to the 2nd page.

New storm trooper helmet design:

That's pretty cool

 

[JMoney]

I just hope there are no Sith in the next trilogy; there aren't supposed to be. Anakin Skywalker fulfilled the prophecy of the Chosen One and brought balance to The Force, but eh EU completely ignored the central plot around the movies. According to the EU Luke fought Sidious' secret apprentice like 3 days after the Battle of Endor, which is complete BS, and now that the sequel trilogy is being made, also non-canon. Maybe some of the books will remain canon, who knows?

A plot like the Yuuzan Vong invasion would be best. Invaders from another galaxy. Apparently the Empire still exists 30-ish years after the death of Palpatine, so maybe the Empire and the New Republic (or whatever the rebels decided to call it) fighting alongside each other against the invaders. That would be good, I think.

 

[CodeRedR51]

http://www.starwarsunderworld.com/2014/08/rumor-new-episode-vii-set-photo.html

^^^ Leaked photo of set. Just posted the website link because I can't go to that site at work to get the photo link.

 

[Lain]

I'm glad to hear they're laying off the CGI. That crap looked so lame in the prequel trilogy.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

A plot like the Yuuzan Vong invasion would be best. Invaders from another galaxy. Apparently the Empire still exists 30-ish years after the death of Palpatine, so maybe the Empire and the New Republic (or whatever the rebels decided to call it) fighting alongside each other against the invaders. That would be good, I think.

It's already been confirmed that EPISODE VII will not cover anything from the Expanded Universe. In fact, the EU is no longer considered canonical.

Rumour suggests - and this is possibly a major spoiler, so be aware - that EPISODE VII will revolve around the disappearance of Luke Skywalker after his lightsabre is discovered by the new protagonists.

My issue in all of this is the way Abrams handled INTO DARKNESS. The problem centres on Khan - the film built up mystery as to his identity, but fans of the series spotted it immediately, and his presence meant nothing to casual viewers, so it was an exercise in the pointless.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

I'm glad to hear they're laying off the CGI. That crap looked so lame in the prequel trilogy.

That was also almost a decade ago for even Episode III; I don't think it's a shocker to say CGI has come a long way since. One only needs to watch the newest Planet of the Apes film to see how well done it can be. Besides, clever integration of CGI with practical effects works wonders. Jurassic Park has aged better than many of its contemporaries because of just that.

My issue in all of this is the way Abrams handled INTO DARKNESS. The problem centres on Khan - the film built up mystery as to his identity, but fans of the series spotted it immediately, and his presence meant nothing to casual viewers, so it was an exercise in the pointless.

There's also enough plot holes in that film to fly a Super Star Destroyer through

 

[Lain]

CGI has come a long way, yes, but films that use CGI too heavily still look noticeably fake... even the latest Planet of the Apes. It's getting less and less jarring, to the point where it's close to being a non-issue, but it's still not quite to the point of being perfectly convincing.

I'm not saying that I want Star Wars 7 to be all practical effects, because like you say, CGI + practical effects work wonders. My compliant is mainly with films that use CGI predominately for their effects. Y'know, like Episodes I-III. And it doesn't matter how old they are now, it matters that they never looked good, not even when they were brand new.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

There's also enough plot holes in that film to fly a Super Star Destroyer through

I try not to think too hard about that, for fear of giving myself an aneurysm.

 

[CodeRedR51]

I just watch movies without thinking about the missing details. I enjoy them more that way.

 

[FoolKiller]

I just watch movies without thinking about the missing details. I enjoy them more that way.

And this is why talentless hacks in Hollywood get paid far more than their talent would indicate.

 

[Sting]

Anyone else really worried these new films are going to be terrible?

 

[CodeRedR51]

Anyone else really worried these new films are going to be terrible?

Can't be any worse than the prequel trilogy.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

I just watch movies without thinking about the missing details. I enjoy them more that way.

And this is why talentless hacks in Hollywood get paid far more than their talent would indicate.

Exactly.

Works of fiction naturally require the suspension of disbelief. We know it's fiction, but subconsciously, we want to accept that it is (or at least could be) real. Likewise, the works want us to believe that is is real, but in order to do so, we have to suspend our disbelief - to put aside out scepticism about it bring real. Naturally, hard science fiction like STAR WARS and STAR TREK, require a greater suspension of disbelief from their audiences.

But when a film like INTO DARKNESS is so poorly and lazily made that it falls apart at the slightest application of logic, well, that's just abusing the audience by assuming they will suspend their disbelief regardless.

 

[CodeRedR51]

But when a film like INTO DARKNESS is so poorly and lazily made that it falls apart at the slightest application of logic, well, that's just abusing the audience by assuming they will suspend their disbelief regardless.

Well I enjoyed it, so I must be easy/dumb. I just don't care to over think a movie that is entirely a work of science fiction to the point of not liking it because of some minor details. In the end, I'm not a trekie or a star wars freak, but I do enjoy a good action/sci-fi movie every once in a while and they keep me entertained. That's good enough for me.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

These aren't minor details that we are talking about - they're gaping plot holes.

 

[CodeRedR51]

These aren't minor details that we are talking about - they're gaping plot holes.

That flew right over my head and I really don't care that they did.

 

[FoolKiller]

Well I enjoyed it, so I must be easy/dumb.

I enjoyed it, but I couldn't help realizing the writing was so sloppy that they essentially cured death and made spaceships unnecessary.

Don't worry though, I gave up on anything resembling realism in this universe when the first movie showed starships being built on Earth, and topped it off by having one rise out of the ocean. A starship should displace enough water to cause tidal disturbances on nearby beaches. It would be the opposite of hiding.

Here, let these guys explain.



Censored language warning

 

[CodeRedR51]

It's a science fiction movie.

No need to explain, I really don't care.

 

[FoolKiller]

It's a science fiction movie.

So were ET and 2001: A Space Odyssey. Science fiction is not a license to have plot holes in the story or make your main characters do stupid things because, well, science fiction.

The issue is that a lot of writers these days (I'm looking directly at Orci/Kurtzman) think that if you design your action scenes and then have your characters mumble nonsense to fill in the gaps that is all that matters. It might get big cash, but that doesn't mean it is good. Enjoyable and fun, yes. Good, no.

I own Star Trek Into Darkness, but every time I watch it I'm wondering what blithering idiot wrote the script. Bill & Ted movies had more coherent stories than a lot of sci-fi today.