Stop Quitting the race if you're the host

[Soullessvessel]

My solutions:

1. Quitters forfeit the car they're driving (lose it from their garage)

2. Pay a deposit which you get back after race completion.

3. Anyone that quits a race goes into spectator mode for the remainder of the race with no option to quit other than quitting the game back to PS3 OS or turning the machine off all together.

Personally I like the sound of 3 although 1 would be a good deterrent.

so my power cuts out or I need to be called away for my ps3 at that very moment...and I should be punished for this...why?

 

[Soullessvessel]

How appropriate a nick, get back on the track and follow him, if he does it to everyone then you have a chance of second place unless of course he manages to drive himself off the track.

again I stated he hit my car not nicked it and that doesnt change the fact that he will hit others

 

[MrGiggly]

Had more than the usual level of discos last night.

Funnily it seemed to coincide with the update, whereby racing became a little more about skill and a little less about how effective you are at using any non elise as a moving wallride.

 

[BreakerOhio]

They could enforce an entry fee to join online races. The fee would equal to or greater than the last place winnings. If you win, you get your entry fee covered with the winnings. If you lose, as long as you finished the race and do not quit, you are awarded your entree fee back.

That might prevent people from disconnecting and encourage people to keep driving to at least come away even or better.

 

[TheMoose]

i dont know if your still going on calling every mod in here a hypocrite or not and im not gonna read all these pages to find out, but heres the thing

situation im host starting lets say 2nd last on suzuka, guy behind me clearly and intentially punts my s2k out on 1st corner, now you say by leaving the game that imn runing the game for everybody racers and cheaters alike, now if this guys intentions are only to hit people why is he just gonna stop at me? if its lap one he hits me hes going after others, if its late in lap 2 or 3 thats 1 thing but lap one forget it im going as are most of the people on these forums and on top of that i can spare everyone else the aggravation of getting hit by this guy

Sorry, I'm not buying that excuse & since you were too lazy to read this thread I don't think you deserve an answer but I'll give you one anyway.

You have no idea if that guy is good enough to catch anyone else & punt them off.
I've been in races when the better drivers were well clear of the punters & the host quit because he was hit, he could care less that he screwed everyone else.


If your the host you are responsible for the race, if you can't hang in there for 5 min while everyone else finishes the race then maybe you should just enjoy the offline play.

so my power cuts out or I need to be called away for my ps3 at that very moment...and I should be punished for this...why?

Power outages are rare so lets be real, if my phone rings or someone knocks on the door I simply pull off the track & let the race continue, I don't quit & ruin the race for everyone.

 

[Hyper-Dan]

Hi, I have just had to turn of my ps3, grab myself a beer and take a deep breath. What is it with the host quitting? This has happened like five or more times tonight. Always when im in the lead or/and last lap. I notice this more at suzuka. Really annoying when ive been driving the wheels of my blue evo x.

 

[DustDriver]

If your the host you are responsible for the race, if you can't hang in there for 5 min while everyone else finishes the race then maybe you should just enjoy the offline play.

The problem is that you can't choose if you want to host games or not.
If you're living at home and your parents say that you have to turn off the ps3, then you have no choice.

 

[Stonemonkey]

quote: soulessvessel
so my power cuts out or I need to be called away for my ps3 at that very moment...and I should be punished for this...why?

quote: DustDriver
The problem is that you can't choose if you want to host games or not.
If you're living at home and your parents say that you have to turn off the ps3, then you have no choice.


That's the reason I prefer option 3 from my list, if you have to turn off your PS3 for any reason or the power fails you're not penalised but if you quit the race with the intention of going into another race then you have to wait in spectator mode for the race to end meaning a host that quits is still there albeit in spectator mode.

So unless all these games that are quit are due to power failures, parents telling kids to go to bed or the sudden need for the player to switch off the machine and run out the house then there's going to be fewer games cancelled halfway through or on the last lap by the host disappearing.

 

[FoolKiller]

So unless all these games that are quit are due to power failures, parents telling kids to go to bed or the sudden need for the player to switch off the machine and run out the house then there's going to be fewer games cancelled halfway through or on the last lap by the host disappearing.

Just be glad the PS3 does not have a parental timer, like the 360.

 

[Th35tig]

Polyphony shouldn't have used such a stupid system were the host has power to end everyones race. Just one of the major disappointments with the online mode, had such high hopes but its shody. Apart from exiting GT5 completely, being unable to quit if hosting may stop some if not all quitters.

 

[Matrixi]

I had my first 3 online races tonight, no host quitting.

If you're a host and someone rams you off the track, I don't think you should quit. Respect the other people out in the track, they've done nothing wrong. Even if the rammer ends up winning the race dirty, the people getting 2nd and 3rd might be clean racers. If you quit the race, the race is ruined for those honest people. A host quitting by being rammed by someone else is nothing but a selfish person.

I must say the GT5P online feature is disappointing and pretty pathetic.

 

[Perfect Balance]

How hard is it to make a thing that if the host quits, the second person who joined the room gets to be host?

That's how forza is, it worked fine.

 

[CoccoBill]

I wonder how many of you quitters would quit if the person doing the ramming hit someone else and not you.

P.S. This wasn't a question, so don't bother lying.

 

[Tired Tyres]

This is my online record for last night on HSR 600PP

Seven wins

Six 2nd places

One 4th place (Rammed into a spin otherwise at least 2nd place would have been mine)

Seven Disconnections. Five on the last or second last lap whilst I was leading and two before I'd even taken control of the car at the start.

In other words I was disconnected in one third of my races.

The rammer I don't really mind. I expect idiots online but I cannot except the behaviour of the disconnecters. I haven't done anything to them so why do they do that to me?

 

[Sphinx]

I wonder how many of you quitters would quit if the person doing the ramming hit someone else and not you.

P.S. This wasn't a question, so don't bother lying.

In a GTP organised/ approved race/event, if possible, the host would stop the race, eject the deliberate rammer and then restart the race.

This wasn't an answer, just a fact.

 

[nobuffalo]

After playing the US version, i am starting to take back my first post. I had 3 host quit in a row tonight, and it really is starting to get aggrevating. I never dealt with this much because i didn't play much online with my HK version. Also, i don't understand why these people even quit when there behind, with the new update, you get a good amount of money even if you don't get 1st or 2nd place.

Although I should point out that they were quiting because they were losing and not due to rammers.

 

[Soullessvessel]

I wonder how many of you quitters would quit if the person doing the ramming hit someone else and not you.

P.S. This wasn't a question, so don't bother lying.

I wouldnt namely cause I doubt id even see it but on top of that if they want to go let them I encourage it

 

[Darklymine]

I'm thinking that a lot of the quitters need to figure out that online play is always going to be like this. It's not the machine your racing anymore they guy infront doesn't want you to slipstream past him and isn't going to stoicly watch you roll off into the distance. He's going to drive even more aggressively and late brake late into corners to try and get his place back. This concept is called "racing". Some people are better at it than others.

When you have 16 players from around the globe all trying to beat each other don't be surprised if someones feelings get a little hurt .

IMO the quitters need to learn that even if your punted off into the sand pit on the 1st corner you can still own the race. I've lost count of the number of times I've kept going and passed 4 car pile ups on the next lap. Drive clean and try and avoid the 4 cars all trying to out brake each other into the hairpin

 

[Darklymine]

I'm thinking that a lot of the quitters need to figure out that online play is always going to be like this. It's not the machine your racing anymore they guy infront doesn't want you to slipstream past him and isn't going to stoicly watch you roll off into the distance. He's going to drive even more aggressively and late brake late into corners to try and get his place back. This concept is called "racing". Some people are better at it than others.

When you have 16 players from around the globe all trying to beat each other don't be surprised if someones feelings get a little hurt .

IMO the quitters need to learn that even if your punted off into the sand pit on the 1st corner you can still own the race. I've lost count of the number of times I've kept going and passed 4 car pile ups on the next lap. Drive clean and try and avoid the 4 cars all trying to out brake each other into the hairpin

Oh yeah, that and.... Sony should be making a black list of host disconects. IMO there should be a feature of host volunteering and host refusal. Have it in the options menu, Tick here to be a host [x] or Tick here to be a whiney child [x]

 

[Denur]

I wouldnt namely cause I doubt id even see it but on top of that if they want to go let them I encourage it

Wow, it took me four efforts to understand this. Perhaps you could have written it like this:

I wouldn't, namely because I doubt I'd even see it. But on top of that, if they want to go, let them. I encourage it.

 

[Famine]

Darklymine - Please use the Edit button. It's right next to the Quote button you just used to quote yourself.

 

[DustDriver]

I agree with that, but please use the edit button, instead of quoting your own post.

tree'd by Famine

 

[Denur]

I've read somewhere here that in other online games, that when the host quits, another gamer becomes host. Is this handover noticable for the other players (a hickup in the game) and does this effect the framerate / responsiveness when the new host has a smaller bandwidth than the original host? I ask this, because with a GT5p online game the maximum number of players for a particular race seems to be limited by the host's bandwidth. And usually the player with the best bandwidth becomes host.

 

[GTP_JASE72]

I think they used the Host migration system on F1:CE.
I never really noticed any effects when the host quit.
The biggest problem I had was when people join the race late.

An example is. Just about to hit the braking point for the first corner at Monza and then from out of nowhere BANG there's a car infront of you

 

[Denur]

An example is. Just about to hit the braking point for the first corner at Monza and then from out of nowhere BANG there's a car infront of you

I guess you ended up taking the escape route through the barriers.

 

[GTP_JASE72]

LOL

Yeah it was a real pain if the race you were in had damage tuned on though.
Losing your front wing and at the least one wheel kinda puts an end to your race though

 

[Denur]

@JASE72
It kind of proves that every online-feature has its drawbacks. I must say that I appreciate the approach PD is taking by re-inventing online play. With the GT5p demo from last year they tested out the online ranking system. Having that worked out, they moved on to actual online racing. But only with a single host option. Now we are beta-testing that feature and when PD feels confident enough about what is happening, they can implement the next online feature: e.g. host transfer.
It takes time like this, but at least in the end we'll have a great product.

 

[GTP_JASE72]

Yeah. I know the online features of GT5p aren't the greatest.But at least we have them now.And like you say the ability to implement new features can only make things better.

PD usually come up with the goods at the end of the day so it's just a matter of time.

 

[CoccoBill]

In a GTP organised/ approved race/event, if possible, the host would stop the race, eject the deliberate rammer and then restart the race.

This wasn't an answer, just a fact.

If a group of people agree to race according to the same rules and hold an organized event (how were you planning to do this on GT5P by the way?), it is quite obvious that they can do what they please, but this wasn't the situation that we were talking about here, we were talking about the current online races, right?

I wouldnt namely cause I doubt id even see it but on top of that if they want to go let them I encourage it

You doubt you'd see it? Why, you don't pay attention to other cars on the track? Kind of like how you don't pay attention to other players who want to race?

I find it incredible that someone thinks that punishing everyone for one person's actions is justifiable. If this catches on, next thing we know someone will be invading a country just to hunt down one man.

 

[FoolKiller]

If a group of people agree to race according to the same rules and hold an organized event (how were you planning to do this on GT5P by the way?), it is quite obvious that they can do what they please, but this wasn't the situation that we were talking about here, we were talking about the current online races, right?

I think the point that he is making is that once we have the custom race option is that this won't be an issue because GTP will have its rules for racing and any violators will be punished.

You doubt you'd see it? Why, you don't pay attention to other cars on the track? Kind of like how you don't pay attention to other players who want to race?

So, if you are in third place you are going to see a guy in 10th bash the guy in 9th? No, we do not watch every car in the race, just the ones in our immediate vicinity.