Stupid, Lazy, or Flat Out Blind?

[kennyblanco]

@TT3AZ 👍
Very well put. I think(hope) it will only be a matter of time before PD will implement drag racing in GT5. Not sure why it wasn't carried over from GT4 along with alot of other tracks. Perhaps a future update or dlc will fix this. There are alot of people asking for alot of different things, new cars, tracks, upgrades to premiums, abilities to further customize their rides, etc. But I think dragging has the most potential for release because it is a whole facet of racing that has been ignored. GTP has given us a dedicated drag forum, hopefully PD will recognise the demand is there and fill the void.

 

[TT3AZ]

@TT3AZ 👍
Very well put. I think(hope) it will only be a matter of time before PD will implement drag racing in GT5. Not sure why it wasn't carried over from GT4 along with alot of other tracks. Perhaps a future update or dlc will fix this. There are alot of people asking for alot of different things, new cars, tracks, upgrades to premiums, abilities to further customize their rides, etc. But I think dragging has the most potential for release because it is a whole facet of racing that has been ignored. GTP has given us a dedicated drag forum, hopefully PD will recognise the demand is there and fill the void.

Im glad that you share the same thoughts as me man, hopefully more and more people will get into drag racing, and be aware of this stuff, and continue to put pressure on PD, thats the only thing we can do 👍

 

[Acan]

Well, the fun part is when everyone can start from same fair point. When you play with the pros, you focus more and more on accuracy. I mean, how can it be fun, when you get "smoked" by a kid, that has a slower setup than you, just because he got off the launch first? It doesnt make any sence, specially if you have made the setup to him, and made it significantly slower than yours. Combine this with the issues i wrote above, and you will see that sooner or later, you will start thinking. Its only a game, yes, but how come people are all serious as long as they win? Think about it....im the opposite, i want to find out why i lost, why i come of the line slower then my opponent etc. They key to sucess is asking questions, not like these morons you can see in some drag rooms, that thinks that they win just because they are from US, or because a good setup can justify their 3 second jump at the launch. I have raced some pro teams, and i have beat their cars, why? Because the person treeing was living closer to me, then to them. Of course i told them that, but still, its not funny.

I am fully agreed on this one..... nicely put.

For me, i really dont mind been smoked, but its quite sad if smoked by a kid.
I rather lose to a pro, so i will learn what i have done wrong in my tunes.
Drag racing are about timing, minus reaction time. Some drag rooms ive come across, will race u with the same car at first, when he loses he will say "Oh i will bring my gtr and beat the crap out of you". Or he will kick you out from the room. Seriously, honda civic EK vs Gtr specV???

So this kinda people/person is not really into drag racing. He does not want to improve and to find out why.

 

[Perti78]

Well, the fun part is when everyone can start from same fair point. When you play with the pros, you focus more and more on accuracy. I mean, how can it be fun, when you get "smoked" by a kid, that has a slower setup than you, just because he got off the launch first? It doesnt make any sence, specially if you have made the setup to him, and made it significantly slower than yours. Combine this with the issues i wrote above, and you will see that sooner or later, you will start thinking. Its only a game, yes, but how come people are all serious as long as they win? Think about it....im the opposite, i want to find out why i lost, why i come of the line slower then my opponent etc. They key to sucess is asking questions, not like these morons you can see in some drag rooms, that thinks that they win just because they are from US, or because a good setup can justify their 3 second jump at the launch. I have raced some pro teams, and i have beat their cars, why? Because the person treeing was living closer to me, then to them. Of course i told them that, but still, its not funny.

I'll say it again, you're a great tuner, you showed me how too, it's a shame and a loss having you disappointed by this an throwing the towel. Hope to see you back with PD,s amend or not. I agreed with the problems you point, but it's not there right now, so I make the best of it.

 

[Smuttysy]

It wouldn't take too much to add in a strip, as there are many sections of fully rendered, but completely unused track. For example, beyond the first hairpin at SSR7 there's a completely rendered and post-lit mile (estimate) of completely straight road. There's also a similar thing running under SSR5. (by the lake) Then there's the previously mentioned Top Gear circuit, which also has a fully rendered section beyond the tyres at the 2nd to last corner.
A set of lights to complete the picture is all it would need! Even a simple set of traffic lights for the street based circuits would do!

 

[TT3AZ]

You see fellas, the ideas are there, to bad Kkaz doesnt listen to us, i cant understand why really. Some times i think we players, have more potential then the managers chilling at PD...

 

[zodicus]

I wonder if they did do it, if they would include timming for 60' 100' 1/8mile and 1000' speed and et. that would be awsome.

 

[fest0r]

If they do actually release chargeable DLC then I think a drag strip will be an option. I posted a poll about 4 months ago and over 25% of voters said they would pay for a drag strip.

I’m sure PD has more comprehensive market research (at least I hope so ) but even accounting for a huge margin of error there could be over 10% of GT5 owners who would buy the addon.

Not sure what the current figure is, but the total sales were nearly 6.5 million back in February. If 10% would pay $10 each it would be a tidy profit for very little development… especially if they use an existing track.

…fingers crossed

 

[TT3AZ]

If they do actually release chargeable DLC then I think a drag strip will be an option. I posted a poll about 4 months ago and over 25% of voters said they would pay for a drag strip.

I’m sure PD has more comprehensive market research (at least I hope so ) but even accounting for a huge margin of error there could be over 10% of GT5 owners who would buy the addon.

Not sure what the current figure is, but the total sales were nearly 6.5 million back in February. If 10% would pay $10 each it would be a tidy profit for very little development… especially if they use an existing track.

…fingers crossed

Ehe, pay more cash for features that should be in? Its like ordering and paying for a pizza, without getting chese...

 

[fest0r]

I know… it’s not ideal… but I think it might be the only way to get a proper drag option. If it’s a choice between paying for it and nothing at all then I would take the first option.

Hopefully PD are worried about Forza 4 and they give us it for free

 

[ROYALEFATALE]

this is a result of the lack of features which should of been implemented in the first place, everyone is squeezing everything they can out of GT5 to keep it alive, driving the same cars on the same tracks online gets old after oh ten months or so that the game's been out now

 

[kennyblanco]

I know… it’s not ideal… but I think it might be the only way to get a proper drag option. If it’s a choice between paying for it and nothing at all then I would take first option.

Hopefully PD are worried about Forza 4 and they give us it for free

Hoping for free as it is pretty much already there minus a timing system. No objections if I have to pay for it though, but it had better be flawless. I'm thinking PD will release some new content/features to coincide with Forza's release. Just what, how much, and whether it'll be free or not remains to be seen.

 

[CarCzar]

This post exploded. I love hearing everyone's opinions. I personally would love a drag strip so you can see whether you were faster or slower. Keep posting this is really interesting.

 

[TT3AZ]

Well, if PD feels pressure because of forza 4, its still not good enough if they release a couple of features, it has been like 10 months, and still nothing, it shouldnt be like this. What if forza 4 never would come out, what would happen then? All these things we wanted, should have been there in the beginning, not 1 year after. I think it was lazynes from PD, because they didnt want to implement drag racing mode. I really hope Kaz realised that gt5 isnt a masterpiece, its a some how funny game according to 2011 standards. Graphics isnt everything in games, it should be features as well. To only base a game on circuit racing, sint good enough any more, and it never was, since we had machine test and drag racing in previous games, and that was like 5-10 years ago. Also the lack of saving multiple setups, makes drag tuning even harder. As i have said before, we spend more time going thru different screens etc, than really tuning. You shouldnt have to exit the track just to make some changes, and then enter the track again all over. For example if youre tuning for ssr7, it takes like 30 seconds from the start to the beginning if the tunnels. If you do 10 changes, you loose like 5 minutes, of non valuable addning time, and that is alot. The whole concept of tuning isnt working in gt5, sure the car reacts verry well when you tune it, but it isnt user not time frendly.

 

[kennyblanco]

I agree. I mean they took the time to implement a scoring system for drifting and removed a part of the game that was already there??? Sure there is a large drifting community but the implementation of a scoring system that isn't even applicable online and the exclusion of a dragstrip of any sort which would've been utilised by draggers and circuit racers alike seems like a fumble to me on PD part. The 400m,1000m,and the test track were all very utilised in gt4 by many.

 

[zodicus]

Another reason I Would love to see them implement drag racing (properly) is that's what I'm going to do with my real life race car. If I had a choice I would go road racing, but there isn't a road course near me. I like drag racing as well its a good rush if you have a fast car.
I think a special tire and suspension would be a good idea if they do make a real drag strip. What works for road racing is generally not a good drag set up. The back of my mustang will move back and forth about a foot total just from the sidewall flex on the slicks. Not to mention they only have 8psi in them. they have a rally tire so...

 

[Bklingaman]

forza 3 (of which i dread mentioning) had a nice set-up where there was a five lane drag strip and you would gun the engineand you would launch at the exact time the lights went green. it worked nicely with the cpu but it could be harder to implement in online though...

 

[Abaybay]

I would really really love it If they implemented a drag strip, I can't understand why this is so hard for PD

 

[TT3AZ]

forza 3 (of which i dread mentioning) had a nice set-up where there was a five lane drag strip and you would gun the engineand you would launch at the exact time the lights went green. it worked nicely with the cpu but it could be harder to implement in online though...

Forza 3 drag wasnt good, the lack of drag tires, and the unfair advantage of 4wd cars made it a mess. You shouldn have to use the "launching" glitch just to not spin out, the traction should be there from the first beginning....

 

[Strittan]

Keep voting for Drag Racing HERE, and eventually PD will realize it's too wanted to leave it out.

 

[dtn23]

Well anyone who has been reading the GTP main page has seen the planned spec 2.0 and following DLC packs. Kaz has said there will be a track pack and that his and PD's goal is to tune the game to what the community wants, so I can only hope this means the Vegas strip or an even better drag track could be available in a few weeks. I know it isn't for sure but it's a glimmer of hope.

 

[Strittan]

Well anyone who has been reading the GTP main page has seen the planned spec 2.0 and following DLC packs. Kaz has said there will be a track pack and that his and PD's goal is to tune the game to what the community wants, so I can only hope this means the Vegas strip or an even better drag track could be available in a few weeks. I know it isn't for sure but it's a glimmer of hope.

The Vegas strip in GT4 was some horrible fictional peice of crap. We need a real one, and it still bugs me that they left out the drag strip at Infineon Raceway. I mean WTF, it was in the game and all!

Remember that Bandimere Speedway was seen on one of PD's computer screens in a 'making of GT5' video? It was a list of tracks of which most were already confirmed for GT5. Chances are they've been there taking photos of the facility and stuff. That as well as the drag strip at Infineon would be a great addition!

A couple of videos from this year's LODRS season at Sonoma (Infineon Raceway) and Denver (Bandimere Speedway):




Notice the handicap starts in some of the classes. This would be a great feature in GT5 I believe.

 

[BulkZerker]

bah here I was hoping they'd look into using a more historically significant raceway than some made for top fuel strips like Infineon or Bandimere.

Like, yanno... the one to hold the first NHRA nationals?👍

Great Bend Raceway for all you who are gonna google it

it was originally an abandoned B29 runway. So if someone wanted to get cheeky, US top gear test track?

 

[FoTRoN]

If PD comes though with a drag strip, i really hope they keep the free roam ability on the track.

 

[Slash]

From prior experience with much wanted things, according to that feedback section of GTP, it's going to take near 10,000 votes before we get it, IF we get it.

 

[Strittan]

From prior experience with much wanted things, according to that feedback section of GTP, it's going to take near 10,000 votes before we get it, IF we get it.

A lot of things have been completed by PD from that feeback section already, so it does seem like PD is checking it out every now and then (at least I hope so).

As for ideas about how the drag racing mode should be if they'll include it. How about...

• Burnout (The tire wear indicator could work as a grip indicator and show how the grip increases during the burnout to a certain point when the tire get's overheated)
• Staging (Ability to deep stage)
• Fully functional tree (Ability to choose between pro and sportsman style)
• Ability to red light (Foul out, disqualification)
• Fully functional timing system (Elapsed time starts when vehicle leaves starting line, not when the green light is activated)
• Reaction time, 60ft time, 1/8 mile time/speed and 1/4 mile time/speed should be given
• Drag compound tires and frontrunners (Correctly done burnout should make it possible to do wheelstands)

These may be a little too hardcore for GT5, but it would sure be nice IF they were featured. At least some of them are highly possible for PD to implement I think.

 

[Slash]

Yes would be nice, but I'd be happy even if we just got a timer for Indy.

 

[Strittan]

Yes would be nice, but I'd be happy even if we just got a timer for Indy.

Indy? Come on, if they include it they have to make it at least somewhat realistic. A real drag strip with online support is the least they could do, especially if Infineon Raceway will return, which is likely.

 

[kennyblanco]

Indy? Come on, if they include it they have to make it at least somewhat realistic. A real drag strip with online support is the least they could do, especially if Infineon Raceway will return, which is likely.

Big+1 for this and all the features suggested in your other post above.

Heres hoping!👍 But will settle for any form of a competent drag system to be implemented.

 

[Strittan]

Yeah, we need to hope. I can't tell you how much I've wanted this. I've waited over a decade for drag racing to be included in a GT title, ever since Kazunori said it would be featured in GT2. Then he said it was gonna be in GT3, and then he gave us a drag strip in GT4 (sort of). Of course I like the other types of racing as well, but drag racing would definitely be my favorite type of racing if it would be included.

As for drag racing modifications on cars. I think NHRA Stock Eliminator modifications would suit GT5 very well, simply because very little has to be done, yet the cars look very cool in my opinion. Aside from the usual stuff (better suspension, driveshaft, transmission and rear end components) all that' done is basicly throw on some 9" slicks (fits in the stock wheel-wells on most muscle cars) and install a 10 point roll cage. In other words, it's a very GT5 friendly level of modifications. I think it would also be cool to have the ability to do like many drag racers do, which is remove unnecessary stuff, such as side view mirrors, antenna and spoiler.

This would transform the '69 Camaro Z28 in GT5 from this...

... to something like this...