Super Tuner Car Championship Season 2

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Should we all turn off our mics before race start?


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GrayFox32
So disconnected again... Just wondering, was I lagging to those that were near me? I saw boshutter warping in front of me for a number of laps. Then had a little spin and ncr passed me and saw him warp a little too right before I got disconnected.

No lag. I am sorry for tapping you. I did not have my wheel and I had no real control with the DS3. Apologies.
 
Mattics, sorry for the taps. I had to use a DS3 instead of my wheel. Dangit, Roadrash and Soopa, hope I let you through ok. I couldn't hear anyone talking, no mic. I heard JT every now and then but couldn't pick up on anything else.
 
AllinWitJT
Mattics, sorry for the taps. I had to use a DS3 instead of my wheel. Dangit, Roadrash and Soopa, hope I let you through ok. I couldn't hear anyone talking, no mic. I heard JT every now and then but couldn't pick up on anything else.

Cleared you fine. Wish you could have been racing up front you were really fast in practice with the wheel
 
Hey guys great race! I was in the back but I still had a really great time. Placed mid pack so I feel pretty good about my performance. There really does seem to be two classes of racers out there, the Elite and then everybody else LOL.

Anyway I fixed the spreadsheets and JPEGS on all the posts and will try to work on todays race tomorrow but I have a very busy weekend plan so don't hold your breath.
 
Another fun race last night. Last second decision to go with the Z4. It had more top end but tire wear was an issue after 9 laps. Crashed on lap 3 or 4, going from 3rd to 7th. Grrr. Spent the rest of the race working my way back up to 4th.

Last lap was spent holding off Jesse in his S2k. My tires were spent and I was loosing corner speed fast. Got a whack from him on a late turn but was able to maintain and slip by Soopa who appeared almost stopped in the next turn. Was really surprised to see him there, I thought he was way ahead.

Nice win godangit, you were moving fast up front. DJ, it looked like you had a good race too. Thanks again for the series guys, this is sooo much better than the open pubs I was used too.
 
I was a decent way ahead until my tyres gave out in the last 2 laps, the last couple of turns well, the car just wouldn't turn anymore! I was glad to finish in the top half this week as I've been so busy and was having to guess a setup for the car, somehow I managed to make my FR understeer like crazy so that made keeping up with Godangit a mission, great race Godangit you deserve all the points there bud.
 
So disconnected again... Just wondering, was I lagging to those that were near me? I saw boshutter warping in front of me for a number of laps. Then had a little spin and ncr passed me and saw him warp a little too right before I got disconnected.

Didn't see you lagging, to bad you lagged out you we real fast. The only one I noticed lagging a little was Bo
 
djchon661
Next week is the 550 pp triple threat mustang, camaro, challenger

Doing some testing now. I think Laguna is going to take the old muscle out of the picture.
 
xR0ADRASHx
Doing some testing now. I think Laguna is going to take the old muscle out of the picture.

true but its still a toss up between laguna and daytona rc. Ill end voting tonight so make sure to vote if you haven't done so yet. My vote will be the tie breaker if needed
 
Lol...... please tell me you don't really think those new tires on that Vette equate to GT5 Sport Softs.

I know GT5 "reality" is off but logically those would be the tires. Those are street legal tires so in GT5 only the Comfort or Sport tires would qualify.
 
All right guys voting is now closed and its triple threat at Daytona RC by a landslide! Thanks for voting.
 
So disconnected again... Just wondering, was I lagging to those that were near me? I saw boshutter warping in front of me for a number of laps. Then had a little spin and ncr passed me and saw him warp a little too right before I got disconnected.

Both you and Bo were bouncing around as I was approaching. You were warping for sure right before you spun. I couldn't tell exactly where you were when I went by. Suddenly you appeared right beside me, tires smokin' and then you were gone. I got disconnected in the Camaro RM race myself. For the second RM race I unplugged the ps3 to reset it and was fine. Did the same before the roadster race.
 
By any chance are those that are having lag/disconnect issues using the wireless connection, I think it would help if you used a cable if that's possible, I always do because its much faster anyway. I ran a 20m cable under the carpet from my router to my entertainment centre, which has a 4 port hub as I've got several devices to connect, works better than wireless despite the cable length. Wireless is slow and can suffer from interference, I've heard of people who suffered greatly from these issues switch to a lan cable and have the problems go away, worth a try if you can.
 
By any chance are those that are having lag/disconnect issues using the wireless connection, I think it would help if you used a cable if that's possible, I always do because its much faster anyway. I ran a 20m cable under the carpet from my router to my entertainment centre, which has a 4 port hub as I've got several devices to connect, works better than wireless despite the cable length. Wireless is slow and can suffer from interference, I've heard of people who suffered greatly from these issues switch to a lan cable and have the problems go away, worth a try if you can.

Mine is wired even though I completely disagree with the assumption that wired will cure any lag problems over a properly setup wireless connection.

I ran in 2 other races in another series the same day we ran our last race. The other series is hosted in Europe, we ran two long races with full fields of cars and there were no issues with lag. I ran another race yesterday afternoon, again hosted in Europe, full field of GT300 cars on a short track and there were no lag issues. In our races, it's very seldom that there is a race without lag problems. The only difference is, in the other series we were having the same problems, every week someone was experiencing lag, it wasn't always the same person, and sometimes it was worse than others. We ended up solving it by not allowing mics in the room. Online racing actually requires very little bandwidth, using mikes to chat while racing uses a LOT more than the actual racing. I mentioned this a while back, but was told that it would ruin the social aspect of the race. I guess it comes down to, a choice between chatting or racing.

You can confirm this by checking your router logs after a race with and without mics. You may be shocked at how little bandwidth is actually required for racing.
 
boshuter
Mine is wired even though I completely disagree with the assumption that wired will cure any lag problems over a properly setup wireless connection.

I ran in 2 other races in another series the same day we ran our last race. The other series is hosted in Europe, we ran two long races with full fields of cars and there were no issues with lag. I ran another race yesterday afternoon, again hosted in Europe, full field of GT300 cars on a short track and there were no lag issues. In our races, it's very seldom that there is a race without lag problems. The only difference is, in the other series we were having the same problems, every week someone was experiencing lag, it wasn't always the same person, and sometimes it was worse than others. We ended up solving it by not allowing mics in the room. Online racing actually requires very little bandwidth, using mikes to chat while racing uses a LOT more than the actual racing. I mentioned this a while back, but was told that it would ruin the social aspect of the race. I guess it comes down to, a choice between chatting or racing.

You can confirm this by checking your router logs after a race with and without mics. You may be shocked at how little bandwidth is actually required for racing.

I rather not hear chat than get bumped off track because of lag.
 
Mine is wired even though I completely disagree with the assumption that wired will cure any lag problems over a properly setup wireless connection.

I've never had any issues with lag, so just going on what others have told me about going from wireless to wired, personally I prefer to go with wired anyway as the connection is faster.

I rather not hear chat than get bumped off track because of lag.

agreed, I'd rather have people able to complete a race than chat, chat is great before the race during qualifying etc, but once the race starts I'd rather concentrate on the task at hand anyway!!
 
I've never had any issues with lag, so just going on what others have told me about going from wireless to wired, personally I prefer to go with wired anyway as the connection is faster.



agreed, I'd rather have people able to complete a race than chat, chat is great before the race during qualifying etc, but once the race starts I'd rather concentrate on the task at hand anyway!!

I agree that most people should go with wired, not because of the speed, but because it's just easier to setup and most people don't have a clue about how to make sure a wireless setup is performing correctly, or to troubleshoot it if it isn't.

As far as choosing wired over wireless because it's faster..... well there is no arguing that a gigabit wired connection is faster than a 150mb or 300mb wireless connection. But how many times do you actually use more speed than a wireless connection can provide? Even the best internet connection isn't going to come close to utilizing the capability of even a wireless "G" connection (54mbs). There is no reason that a wireless connection can't provide the speed needed for gaming, when that same connection can stream HD video with no problems.

The issue with lag is not a speed related problem, it's latency. A 1mb internet connection with good latency will have much less lag problems than a 20mb connection with high latency. Lag is caused when there is a spike in latency, the problem is, finding and fixing the cause of those spikes can be very difficult.
 
Guess they were talking out of their arse then! I don't know much about networking, I just prefer to go with the fastest connection wherever possible ;)
 
I rather not hear chat than get bumped off track because of lag.

I agree 100%. Most of the time i turn mine off during the race to spare everyone from hearing my evil little dog bark or I don't want to hear distracting sound from someone else's end. Usually everyone is quiet while concentrating on their race anyway. So if turning off the mics decreases the chance of someone getting disconnected then by all means, let's turn it off.
 
I'm tired racers being disconnected as well. Grayfox was really fast again and it seems like whenever he's doing good he gets disconnected. Same thing with dangit. What do you guys think of turning off the mics when we pit right before race start?

If we turn off the mics during race we gotta be super careful when we drive. We won't be able to warn other racers where we are at and we also won't be able to apologize for any bumps.

I say we vote on this. I'll try to create a poll and we'll go from there.

UPDATE:

I've created the poll. Lets see how voting goes.
 
I had the the voice chat set to very high. I could try lowering it to high or standard. I ran a public lobby last night an had up to 16 people at one point with little or no lag. My thoughts are communication is important during a race. Letting someone know where you are will eliminate unnecessary wrecks.
 
xR0ADRASHx
I had the the voice chat set to very high. I could try lowering it to high or standard. I ran a public lobby last night an had up to 16 people at one point with little or no lag. My thoughts are communication is important during a race. Letting someone know where you are will eliminate unnecessary wrecks.

I really do like the communication but hate to drive around bouncy cars. Maybe we should take time to set the voice settings to standard and schedule a large group practice race?
 
AllinWitJT
I really do like the communication but hate to drive around bouncy cars. Maybe we should take time to set the voice settings to standard and schedule a large group practice race?

Name the time and day. I'm alway's up for practice
 
If you had it set very high I think trying standard or lower and see how that goes is a good idea, it certainly does help in certain situations so I'd rather not lose it completely if thats an option
 
SoopamanLuva
If you had it set very high I think trying standard or lower and see how that goes is a good idea, it certainly does help in certain situations so I'd rather not lose it completely if thats an option

Done I'll set it to standard this week.
 
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