Suzuka 750pp HOTLAP (online free run)

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Was just discussing the LM, I reckon with a wheel user mines a 1:55.3 car, it's just to big an ask for me on a controller.
 
1'59.724 | GT LM Test - Lion-Face No ABS

A bit more competitive. I can see me cracking the 1'58 mark soon enough as i learn the car more. Havnt enjoyed a car outside of the F40 so much! its a blast to drive! At least driving with no abs puts me top of one leaderboard :D
 
Which shows PD's stupidity at times even more, I'd accept the V10 being faster on the straights, but not the Viper in the corners, not a hope.

Ummm...I couldn't help but comment on your rather ignorant statements (when looking at the facts). First off, do you follow real racing or know enough about vehicle engineering to even make such a claim? The new generation Vipers are some of the best handling machines in the world. In fact, the ACR just set the new production vehicle lap record at the ring with a less than stellar driver (7:22 IIRC). Vipers have been extremely successful at Le Mans, the FIA GT series, and Speed World Challenge just to name a few venues. FIA also put a big restrictors on the Viper V10 back in the day (98-00) to keep them from dominating the competition. So much for them not being competitive in reality. :)

Here's a little list of series and race wins copied form wikipedia:

Race Wins
24 Hours of Le Mans - 1998, 1999, 2000
24 Hours Nürburgring - 1999, 2001, 2002
Rolex 24 at Daytona - 2000
12 Hours of Sebring - 2000
Petit Le Mans - 1999
1000km Fuji - 2001
Mil Milhas Brasileires - 2004

Series championships
FIA GT Championship - 1997, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2002
American Le Mans Series - 1999, 2000
FFSA GT Championship - 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005
Belcar - 2002, 2003, 2004
Italian GT - 2003, 2004
 
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PLEASE, POST WITH THE USED FORMAT. (thanks for those who already do this!!) It means that the only thing I should be needed to do is copy your time to notepad and then paste it to the board. I know it feels that it's easy to add your name or other rather small edits to your submition but it does get a bit annoying and time consuming especially when there are hopefully more and more people submitting. Here is the format, so copy-paste this and edit your own details to it. It's actually quite easy.. :)


1'56.545 | Lotus Elise 111R Tuned - Timppaq

Prime example:

1'56.777 | Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car - Chronos




Thanks!! 👍

haha just my luck, very nice time Timppaq

My effort:-

1'56.593 | Lotus Elise 111R Tuned

I'll go out on a limb and say that 1'55.XXX can be done in the 111R

:D ..now walk the walk.. ;)

👍

Great time, mate!
 
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Ummm...I couldn't help but comment on your rather ignorant statements (when looking at the facts). First off, do you follow real racing or know enough about vehicle engineering to even make such a claim? The new generation Vipers are some of the best handling machines in the world. In fact, the ACR just set the new production vehicle lap record at the ring with a less than stellar driver (7:22 IIRC). Vipers have been extremely successful at Le Mans, the FIA GT series, and Speed World Challenge just to name a few venues. FIA also put a big restrictors on the Viper V10 back in the day (98-00) to keep them from dominating the competition. So much for them not being competitive in reality. :)

Here's a little list of series and race wins copied form wikipedia:

Race Wins
24 Hours of Le Mans - 1998, 1999, 2000
24 Hours Nürburgring - 1999, 2001, 2002
Rolex 24 at Daytona - 2000
12 Hours of Sebring - 2000
Petit Le Mans - 1999
1000km Fuji - 2001
Mil Milhas Brasileires - 2004

Series championships
FIA GT Championship - 1997, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2002
American Le Mans Series - 1999, 2000
FFSA GT Championship - 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005
Belcar - 2002, 2003, 2004
Italian GT - 2003, 2004

Oh ho, who's the ignorant one? Reviews alone will tell you the Viper does not handle better than the Z06, then there's lap times, and if you think the ACR "proves" anything at all then you know less about cars than you make out. The Viper ACR has had reduced weight, near racing tyres, and a complete aero package to make it fast. A car like that with downforce is inherently going to be lethal, and there is no Corvette in the real world with equal downforce to compare to. Over half of your race wins are enduros, which are essentially who has the righ stategy and who can last to the end rather than actual speed. Did I also mention that race cars have very little in common with the road going counterparts? Perhaps I should also mention that in a few race series I've seen the Viper is not fast enough to take down Porsche's and Maserati's which the Corvette would beat in real life.
The Viper can not handle better than a Corvette. (At least not in the current generations.) Of course though, the Viper is still an amazingly awesome car.
 
It doesn't really matter though guys, the fact of the matter is my Vipers custom set up, and so is the Corvette you use, not to mention all the PP issues, the V10 might have tuned down better then the 'Vettes V8. The Viper for me at least on GT5 feels more stable, can run more lines and turns just as well if not better. Also these cars are 'GT Tuned' so they're modified which can mean anything. There's to many variables to decide if its right or wrong.
 
Oh ho, who's the ignorant one? Reviews alone will tell you the Viper does not handle better than the Z06, then there's lap times, and if you think the ACR "proves" anything at all then you know less about cars than you make out. The Viper ACR has had reduced weight, near racing tyres, and a complete aero package to make it fast. A car like that with downforce is inherently going to be lethal, and there is no Corvette in the real world with equal downforce to compare to. Over half of your race wins are enduros, which are essentially who has the righ stategy and who can last to the end rather than actual speed. Did I also mention that race cars have very little in common with the road going counterparts? Perhaps I should also mention that in a few race series I've seen the Viper is not fast enough to take down Porsche's and Maserati's which the Corvette would beat in real life.
The Viper can not handle better than a Corvette. (At least not in the current generations.) Of course though, the Viper is still an amazingly awesome car.

Ok, disregard the racing credentials I brought up, as they were a bit irrelevant in the overall discussion that a current gen Viper does not handle as well as a C6 Z.

If you follow rag reviews then what makes you think the Viper is a inferior handling machine in comparison to the Z06, considering that their test data and editorial bits show otherwise? I don't get where you're coming from with your views. Testing data has shown the SRT-10 and Z06 to be extremely close in terms of laps times, usually with the edge going to the Viper, despite having extremely similar trap speeds. Which is good indicator of rolling acceleration differences. So much for saying the Viper isn't in the Z06's league in terms of handling hah! Correct me if I'm wrong...? Maybe I should bring some lap time data to the table.
 
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1'59.448 | TLD Chevrolet Corvette/Tuned - Synwraith

Holden, BEAUTIFUL tune on this baby, can be thrown all over the place and it is absolutely epic into T1. Well done and thank you.

All the best
Maz (Synwraith)
 
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1'59.448 | TLD Chevrolet Corvette/Tuned - Synwraith

Holden, BEAUTIFUL tune on this baby, can be thrown all over the place and it is absolutely epic into T1. Well done and thank you.

All the best
Maz (Synwraith)

so that's what you were running so quickly in just now!
 
1'59.448 | TLD Chevrolet Corvette/Tuned - Synwraith

Holden, BEAUTIFUL tune on this baby, can be thrown all over the place and it is absolutely epic into T1. Well done and thank you.

All the best
Maz (Synwraith)

Hope to see you on track racing this, doesn't seem that many people like racing with this car, must be that they want to win a race My prefered car on Suzuka
 
Come on guys, let's not forget, this is just a GAME, lol. Besides we are here to have fun as always so let's be nice to each other. Wow I hate when I say this, it makes me look like a moderator. :P (Don't take it personal MODS) :P
 
Was just discussing the LM, I reckon with a wheel user mines a 1:55.3 car, it's just to big an ask for me on a controller.

The controller has been faster in every other racing game released to this point, dont see what is different now (almost all times times in Forza2 are controller). You get AI smoothed steering and can go lock to lock in a flash helping in tight turns. Its just not as fun as a wheel but in terms of speed its win win.


I am surprised that Renaults arent all over this, in the 700pp class there dominated, maybe the 9pp they are missing is hurting them?
 
Hahahaha.....I am a driver not a moderator!! :P NLxAROSA any new tunes.....pm if you have. I am currently developing a M3 tune with my team. What we are trying to show is that, this car is not weak but very good car. PD better fix when they release GT5. This car doesn't handle like this at all.
 
Ok, disregard the racing credentials I brought up, as they were a bit irrelevant in the overall discussion that a current gen Viper does not handle as well as a C6 Z.

If you follow rag reviews then what makes you think the Viper is a inferior handling machine in comparison to the Z06, considering that their test data and editorial bits show otherwise? I don't get where you're coming from with your views. Testing data has shown the SRT-10 and Z06 to be extremely close in terms of laps times, usually with the edge going to the Viper, despite having extremely similar trap speeds. Which is good indicator of rolling acceleration differences. So much for saying the Viper isn't in the Z06's league in terms of handling hah! Correct me if I'm wrong...? Maybe I should bring some lap time data to the table.

Well, from what I've gathered the Corvette was better handling (don't know where, but something gave me the impression). By all means though, I'd find lap times quite interesting.:)

1'59.448 | TLD Chevrolet Corvette/Tuned - Synwraith

Holden, BEAUTIFUL tune on this baby, can be thrown all over the place and it is absolutely epic into T1. Well done and thank you.

All the best
Maz (Synwraith)

Glad I could help.:) It's pretty much the only car I race at Suzuka these days, until we get new cars at least.

Hope to see you on track racing this, doesn't seem that many people like racing with this car, must be that they want to win a race My prefered car on Suzuka

I'd like to race you as well, but as for the winning part, I don't have any problems.;)

2'00.963 | TLD Chevrolet Covette/Tuned - EL_ZISSOU

im comin for ya holden ;)

I look forward to your future efforts.:)
 
The controller has been faster in every other racing game released to this point, dont see what is different now (almost all times times in Forza2 are controller). You get AI smoothed steering and can go lock to lock in a flash helping in tight turns. Its just not as fun as a wheel but in terms of speed its win win.


I am surprised that Renaults arent all over this, in the 700pp class there dominated, maybe the 9pp they are missing is hurting them?

Not being funny, but have you played GT5P much?

This event may mask the difference between wheel and pad as most people are running super high grip R3's, but in general (on rear wheel drive cars) using a wheel and pedals is a massive advantage in GT5P... at least a second or 2 a lap on S1/2's round Suzuka.

The Clio can be competitive in the right hands, but it isn't dominating at Suzuka as although it's fast on the straights it gets killed in T1... the viper/vette/GTLM all have much more downforce.
 
Chipped a bit off the Tuned Vette time.........

1'58.489 | RVT Chevrolet Corvette/Tuned - osrg
 
Updated.

PLEASE, POST WITH THE USED FORMAT. (thanks for those who already do this!!) It means that the only thing I should be needed to do is copy your time to notepad and then paste it to the board. I know it feels that it's easy to add your name or other rather small edits to your submition but it does get a bit annoying and time consuming especially when there are hopefully more and more people submitting. Here is the format, so copy-paste this and edit your own details to it. It's actually quite easy..


for example:

1'56.545 | Lotus Elise 111R Tuned - Timppaq

Thanks!!

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1'59.048 | TLD Chevrolet Corvette/Tuned - Synwraith

You can delete my other Corvette time, Timo. Many thanks.

OK I can see how people are getting into the 1'58s with this car/tune now, but I don't know if I can nail every corner of the lap 100% perfectly because that is what it's going to take!

Immense respect to you controller users in the 1'58s with this car. Having heard Dragonistic and Holden use sixaxis as well I've lost my excuse ;)

All the best
Maz (Synwraith)
 
1'58.693 | RVT Chevrolet Corvette/Tuned - Synwraith

Wow, I decided to change from the TLD tune to the RVT tune and within 3 laps I broke the 1'58 barrier. This tune has more understeer and requires much less of 5th gear than TLD's, but the evidence is clear. It wasn't even as good and clean a lap as my best TLD time.

I do realise that double posting is frowned upon, however I felt for the benefit of Timo looking only to copy/paste times and not having to dig around, and for the benefit of others looking to compare tunes and see what works for them, two consecutive posts might help accomplish all the above better.

I do apologise sincerely if it is not acceptable.

I feel like I'm betraying Holden by using Dragon's tune, if it weren't for Holden's tune I would have given up on 750pp already! Many thanks to both of you, your talents as tuners are as valuably diverse as they are mightily impressive.

Holden's tune is a little more fun to drive, I feel like I can wring the car's neck. RVT tune is, in my opinion, immediately faster but the understeer can cause problems and it doesn't feel as fast. The results do the talking though as far as a hotlap contest goes.

Guys, I salute you, superb tunes.

All the best
Maz (Synwraith)...sorry for the long post...
 
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