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[Ridox2JZGTE]

Is it possible for you to offer some tuning fix for one of my cars, Tom's X540 Chaser ? I will post the tune shortly if you are available to try use your method cheers.

 

[Scaff]

I mentioned the spreadsheet, but did not promote it. I did not make grand claims, in fact, most of all of my claims are about how well it works for me, not some universal quality to it. The rest are almost common sense in regards to how the game's tuning works. It is not complicated, just useful. If you want real validation, I shall go back in time, record my drifting before this sheet, and then after, to prove to you that it is giving the results I want. Or, you can just take it on faith that I am not lying to you. I'm not sure why I would be using this sheet if it didn't improve my drifting.

In other words, Scaff, almost everything you are posting at this point is complete ********. And I just simply do not have the patient to continue dealing with it. I'm going to ask that you move this topic back to where it is supposed to be, give up this pointless conversation, and stop threatening me for something I have not done. If you have legitimate questions about my tuning method, send me a private message and we can discuss tuning together, or make your own thread about it and get off of this thread.

So for one last time, this is my final word on this subject, to Scaff (as a representative of the staff) and other members:

I tune with formulas taken from legitimate sources and compiled into a single mathematic spreadsheet. I have a method based on credible physics to find values (ones that are easy to find, including the Center of Mass) that tell me what I want, and I have had great success with it. I don't want to share it. If you don't believe it works, deal with it. If you want to learn more about it, I will answer questions you have, link you to sources and explain concepts that went into its design.

If it is so hard for you to believe what I say is true, then either believe it is a lie and keep it to yourself rather than attack me, or ignore me. I don't care.

But at the same time, be a reasonable person. Do not lie about what I typed, do not assume things about it that I do not say, and grow up if you think you have to force me to explain this sheet again. I've already explained it to the point where anyone could make one just on my suggestions. This type of stuff is what makes the drift community immature.

And in response to all of this, Scaff, you found it necessary to threaten to close a thread that has little to do with this conversation, refuse to send me private messages about it and instead continue to derail the topic, and create complete lies about what it does, what I do, and worst of all, blame the problem on me? If you have a problem with my character, take it up personally. You've stopped asking legitimate questions and are now repeating yourself and creating what are for all intents and purposes, complete lies about me.

This goes for everyone here, one last time: I don't care. I don't care if you believe what I am saying is right, I believe it is and it shows results for me. I don't want to give up all of my tuning methods just because it is demanded as a threat.

This is idiotic and immature. If you have any questions about this tuning sheet, send me a private message, because I don't think there's anyone else here who has a legitimate complaint that I haven't addressed as nicely as possible, with a reasonable answer. I will not respond here, and I would like this topic (after four pages of this) to get back to its original purpose.

Now let me get back to my work drifting and observing on GT5.

OK let me be quite clear about this from a 100% moderation point of view.

• This is not a blog. You do not get to tell people what they can and can't post on the boards (only the staff can). If a post is on topic (and questions regarding how you tune are on topic) then you do not get to state they can't be asked.
• This is now in the correct place. This is not a team thread, its a drifting thread, it will not be moved.
• You made very specific and detailed claims about being able to measure CoG from a replay, about what info your spreadsheet can output. These claims have been questioned and as such you should be addressing that. Posting deliberately misleading information is an AUP violation. If they are not addressed, then this thread (as it contains those unsubstantiated claims) can be locked as part of the enforcement of the AUP.
• Stop insulting people and stop now, the AUP is quite clear that this will not be tolerated.

You have been politely asked to explain some of the claims that you have made, despite that you have avoided the issue at all costs.

So in short, no your thread will not be moved, you are expected to answer the questions raised in this thread and yes it is at risk of being locked.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Hi, Ghost, here is my tune for my drift Chaser, let me know when you have some tune made to compare, cheers

Parts Installed :

ECU Tuning
Catalytic Converter Sports
Titanium racing Exhaust
Mid RPM Range Turbo Kit
5 Speed Closer Ratio Transmission
LSD
Twin Plate Clutch
Carbon Drive Shaft
Suspension Full Custom

Max Power : 432 HP/6500 rpm, 429ft-lb/4500rpm
Weight : 1490 KG


Power Level : 100%


LSD :
Initial : 25
Accel : 37
Braking : 5

Suspension :F R
Ride height : 5 5
Spring : 14.7 13.0
Ext : 5 6
Comp : 2 5
ARB : 4 5
Camber : 2.8 1.8
Toe : 0.10 -0.22

BB : 9/10, no ABS and CH tires.

 

[Drift_Monkey]

I mentioned the spreadsheet, but did not promote it. I did not make grand claims, in fact, most of all of my claims are about how well it works for me, not some universal quality to it. The rest are almost common sense in regards to how the game's tuning works. It is not complicated, just useful. If you want real validation, I shall go back in time, record my drifting before this sheet, and then after, to prove to you that it is giving the results I want. Or, you can just take it on faith that I am not lying to you. I'm not sure why I would be using this sheet if it didn't improve my drifting.

I tune with formulas taken from legitimate sources and compiled into a single mathematic spreadsheet. I have a method based on credible physics to find values (ones that are easy to find, including the Center of Mass) that tell me what I want, and I have had great success with it. I don't want to share it. If you don't believe it works, deal with it. If you want to learn more about it, I will answer questions you have, link you to sources and explain concepts that went into its design.

If it is so hard for you to believe what I say is true, then either believe it is a lie and keep it to yourself rather than attack me, or ignore me. I don't care.

But at the same time, be a reasonable person. Do not lie about what I typed, do not assume things about it that I do not say, and grow up if you think you have to force me to explain this sheet again. I've already explained it to the point where anyone could make one just on my suggestions. This type of stuff is what makes the drift community immature.

And in response to all of this, Scaff, you found it necessary to threaten to close a thread that has little to do with this conversation, refuse to send me private messages about it and instead continue to derail the topic, and create complete lies about what it does, what I do, and worst of all, blame the problem on me? If you have a problem with my character, take it up personally. You've stopped asking legitimate questions and are now repeating yourself and creating what are for all intents and purposes, complete lies about me.

This goes for everyone here, one last time: I don't care. I don't care if you believe what I am saying is right, I believe it is and it shows results for me. I don't want to give up all of my tuning methods just because it is demanded as a threat.

This is idiotic and immature. If you have any questions about this tuning sheet, send me a private message, because I don't think there's anyone else here who has a legitimate complaint that I haven't addressed as nicely as possible, with a reasonable answer. I will not respond here, and I would like this topic (after four pages of this) to get back to its original purpose.

Now let me get back to my work drifting and observing on GT5.

everything you've said here... is a contradiction to the way you've approached this matter. You have not answered ANY of our questions, you just show us facts we already know about the numbers you need, you've passively ignored our requests and you're crying wolf. Either your stil very young at mind or you don't know what the real world is. When you make claims like these you should know how to back it up.

This thread should be locked because of the misleading information and blatant ignorance to anyone who has questions about your method. You have lost all credibility.

 

[Frisky]

To be honest, I think he needs to get off his high horse, and stop saying how immature we all are, because at the end of the day, its a GAME. And in truth, you are saying that even you are immature, if you are part of the community, which you must be, unless your some kind of creepy weirdo, who tries to defy the laws of physics (im suprised you haven't tried, seen as you think you are better than everyone else.) To cut a long story short, stop contradicting yourself, and posting these long posts to make yourself look educated. Because judging from your social skills, you are anything but.

 

[LPTuner]

So are we getting back on topic or what? If not I would say this thread needs to be either managed by the owner, staff, or just simply lock it. I thought this would be a cool thread to visit but now it seems like a burden on everyone, including GTP Staff. I'm surprised Scaff has been so polite to NOT lock it, and has taken the time to comment on this thread more then once. And Scaff didn't threaten you about a lock, GhostZ, he warned. Saying that it is "At risk of being locked" is a legitimate warning that this nonsense should stop and either A: Get back on topic. B: Lock the thread yourself. or C: Continue your contradictive thread as you have been and don't get mad when one day it says "Locked" on it.

 

[Frisky]

so are we getting back on topic or what? If not i would say this thread needs to be either managed by the owner, staff, or just simply lock it. I thought this would be a cool thread to visit but now it seems like a burden on everyone, including gtp staff. I'm surprised scaff has been so polite to not lock it, and has taken the time to comment on this thread more then once. And scaff didn't threaten you about a lock, ghostz, he warned. Saying that it is "at risk of being locked" is a legitimate warning that this nonsense should stop and either a: Get back on topic. B: Lock the thread yourself. Or c: Continue your contradictive thread as you have been and don't get mad when one day it says "locked" on it.

+1

 

[Lazy Liquid]

I am another person here who is kinda disapoited with the direction that this thread got. I was enjoying at first, reading the "Z"´s feedback about diferent cars and insights while playing, but since it started to become a competition on who is more geeky than who and the obcessive demands to the thread´s owner "show his magic formulas", i even tried to follow and keep interested, but it just tired me.

Doesn´t matter anymore how many knowledge was showed here by many. Nothing was proven, except by the fact that we have a lot of sliders to set on our cars and everyone have his own philosophy about the game, specialy about tunning.

I really wish to see this thread getting back on tracks, but i doubt that we will see it.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

I'm here waiting ever so patiently about my Chaser tune to compare with Ghost's version

 

[ACGreen86]

I can appreciate what GhostZ is doing here. He has a reliable method for tuning a car to his personal preference. Good on you for doing all that research and creating a method that works for you.

Back on topic, I'd like to hear more about GhostZ's adventures in the GT5 community. Also, if possible I'd like to get your opinion on one of my favorite tunes and how I could get other cars to perform in a similar manner. Sorry about the incoming wall of text.

Toyota Soarer 2.5 GT-T '97
Weight Reduction - Stage 3
Window Weight Reduction
Engine Tuning - Stage 3
ECU Tuning
Standard Intake
Racing Air Filter
Standard Exhaust Manifold
Sports Catalytic Converter
Standard Exhaust
Mid RPM Turbocharger
Custom Transmission
Twin Clutch
Semi-Racing Flywheel
Carbon Drive Shaft
Adjustable LSD
Fully Custom Suspension
Comfort Hard Tires

Ballast: none
Balance: 65/35

Gears
1st: 3.168 2nd: 2.383
3rd: 1.859 4th: 1.514
5th: 1.274 6th: 1.070
Final: 3.825

LSD
Initial: 60
Accel: 60
Braking: 35

Suspension (F/R)
Height: -25/-20 Camber: 2.2/1.0
Springs: 5.0/5.0 Toe: 0/0
Damp E: 2/2
Damp C: 10/10
Anti Roll: 1/1

Brakes: 5/0

Current Performance
500HP@5700RPM
505ft/lb@4600RPM
1269kg
2.50kg/HP
527PP

I like to drift in a very slow and deliberate style. This is probably the fastest drift car I have, but it is also the one I get the greatest angles with and is a blast to throw around. Also I have a self-imposed limit of 500HP. This is just my personal preference.

 

[Drift_Monkey]

I can appreciate what GhostZ is doing here. He has a reliable method for tuning a car to his personal preference. Good on you for doing all that research and creating a method that works for you.

Back on topic, I'd like to hear more about GhostZ's adventures in the GT5 community. Also, if possible I'd like to get your opinion on one of my favorite tunes and how I could get other cars to perform in a similar manner. Sorry about the incoming wall of text.

Toyota Soarer 2.5 GT-T '97
Weight Reduction - Stage 3
Window Weight Reduction
Engine Tuning - Stage 3
ECU Tuning
Standard Intake
Racing Air Filter
Standard Exhaust Manifold
Sports Catalytic Converter
Standard Exhaust
Mid RPM Turbocharger
Custom Transmission
Twin Clutch
Semi-Racing Flywheel
Carbon Drive Shaft
Adjustable LSD
Fully Custom Suspension
Comfort Hard Tires

Ballast: none
Balance: 65/35

Gears
1st: 3.168 2nd: 2.383
3rd: 1.859 4th: 1.514
5th: 1.274 6th: 1.070
Final: 3.825

LSD
Initial: 60
Accel: 60
Braking: 35

Suspension (F/R)
Height: -25/-20 Camber: 2.2/1.0
Springs: 5.0/5.0 Toe: 0/0
Damp E: 2/2
Damp C: 10/10
Anti Roll: 1/1

Brakes: 5/0

Current Performance
500HP@5700RPM
505ft/lb@4600RPM
1269kg
2.50kg/HP
527PP

I like to drift in a very slow and deliberate style. This is probably the fastest drift car I have, but it is also the one I get the greatest angles with and is a blast to throw around. Also I have a self-imposed limit of 500HP. This is just my personal preference.

any reason for the raised rear?

 

[ACGreen86]

I like to give the rear a little more room to travel, and also to push the center of gravity forward a bit.
Plus it looks cool.

 

[Drift_Monkey]

I like to give the rear a little more room to travel, and also to push the center of gravity forward a bit.
Plus it looks cool.

I sense a lot of front bite

 

[DriftRyuji]

👍 MATE , Nice threadd

 

[ACGreen86]

I sense a lot of front bite

And that's why I love it. Makes for vicious transitions.
Plus it works well for all the power over-steer entries I like to do.

 

[ACGreen86]

I wonder if anyone over the last couple of weeks has tried my settings. . .
I also wonder if Ghost read that I was looking forward to his response. . .
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