Thank you PD and Kazunori for an amazing game.

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Dude, you couldn't change the colour of used cars AT ALL in GT4.

And I didn't need to either, because I could get the car I wanted, in the color I wanted.

WHAT is the problem with expecting to be able to get a car I want, in the color I want? What? What is your problem with that? Explain.
 
Yep great game just one problem:

My copy seems to be missing most of the events. I seem to only have 45 events in my copy (compared to hundreds in Forza 3 and indeed GT4).

My copy also seems to be missing most of the races in those events (for some strange reason my copy has events consisting of just once race in many events... strange).

Those that have the FULL version of GT5 with a reasonable amount of events could you let me know what its like to play this fully realised copy of the game as I'm dying to know.

And lastly - isn't there already another kissy botty thread somewhere else :P

Well posted. Let me buy you an eBeer. 👍:cheers:
 
Amazing is not what I would call GT5. The game has far to many issues to ignore. The driving is great but everything else around that aspect of the game is very poor. Lesson learned though. I won't be getting hyped up for GT6 or even pay attention to it until well after its been released. If GT6 isn't near flawless then I won't even give the game a chance to be honest. There's no excuses for Polyphony at this point, GT6 better be just the most amazing game. If there is even one minor flaw with it that I read about before it launches then i'm not going to buy it ever.
 
I want to join the OP in expressing my gratitude for this game.
I have not had this much fun with a game since GT4 and GT5P, incidentally made by the same developer.

Oh, and if you feel you that do not need to express gratitude, then don't do it, but please do not come post that those of us who do want to say thank you have some sort of a problem.

Some of us are thoroughly enjoying a game because people like Yamauchi San and his team went to the trouble to make it, and for that we are grateful.
 
"It's kind of creepy really how some people respond to GT as if it's some sort of personal relationship they have with Kaz and PD and it's a gift or something...."

This is so true. Maybe I'm just more sarcastic and cynical then some.

Oh think you PD for taking £40 of me for what is essentially a not quite finished game, I WUV YOUUU!

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The core of the game, the driving, is great.

Everything around it is mediocre at best and frankly feels a bit 1990s.

The menu system is clumsy and frustrating, the standard cars look like a PS2 game, online features severely lacking, there is a repair system that isn't explained at all and costs a ridiculous amount of credits, the challenges are completely uninspired.

Once you are in a race its fun, but the game is all over the place.
 
I want to join the OP in expressing my gratitude for this game.
I have not had this much fun with a game since GT4 and GT5P, incidentally made by the same developer.

Oh, and if you feel you that do not need to express gratitude, then don't do it, but please do not come post that those of us who do want to say thank you have some sort of a problem.

Some of us are thoroughly enjoying a game because people like Yamauchi San and his team went to the trouble to make it, and for that we are grateful.

Exactly. Like there aren't enough threads bitching about the game.
 
And you basically acted as if the current system simply existing is enough for it to be perfect.

No, I didn't act anything, this is an internet forum, you interpreted what I wrote in whatever way you wanted. If you read what I posted again, I stated a fact about GT5 vs GT4.
 
looks stupid to see my hands and my wheel and then the virtual hands and the virtual wheel

Yeah that sort of bugs me too. I have to turn my wheel usually more than 180degrees and the virtual me is still doing 70 degree turns to the right of left. It's also a bit distracting too.
 
I expected a thread of this kind to appear sooner or later.

I said thank you in the form of cash which I paid for the game. That's how consumer products work... it's not like this was some gift or something which was given to me which I should be thankful for...

It's kind of creepy really how some people respond to GT as if it's some sort of personal relationship they have with Kaz and PD and it's a gift or something....

+1 👍

What's creepy is some guy who chases down almost any positive thread to throw some sand in it, as if it was wrong to state a heartfelt opinion. Well... for anything else is fine, just not Gran Turismo. ;)

Moreover, I expected Deve to say something completely reasonable, only for you to appear and say something that's... not.
And as usual, the bold part shows which side you think Deve doesn't play for. Playing for a side, again, means being totally biased towards it. Which is a wrong definition.
 
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Lucas, what are you going on about?

"Being reasonable" isn't chasing down every happy thread and throwing some diss on it. And he does it consistently. That's borderline trolling. Get real, okay?

And the rest of you guys, you know there are pissing threads you can roll around in.
 
Lucas, what are you going on about?

"Being reasonable" isn't chasing down every happy thread and throwing some diss on it. And he does it consistently. That's borderline trolling. Get real, okay?

What do you mean with borderline trolling? Only people who take GT5 waaaay too seriously could consider his posts "borderline trolling". And even then, his posts wouldn't be those of a troll.

As long as he's saying the truth, he's not trolling. But, if one can be a troll by saying the truth... oh, man. I've got some news for you and your Forza posts. ;)

Besides, I never said being reasonable was "chasing down" happy threads. Saying something reasonable, like saying we have already said thanks by buying the game, is being reasonable. Or do you think we would have gotten the game just by saying "thanks" in the store and retrieving the game? I don't think so. "Hand the money down, then you can say thank you as much as you want."

And the rest of you guys, you know there are pissing threads you can roll around in.

True. That doesn't keep positive people away from them, often coming to say "stop complaining", or saying how much we can complain about the game, while they will enjoy it. Wait...




...aren't you one of them? ;)

People can always put me in their ignore list if they don't like my posts. However, if they are so attracted in reading my "trolling" (like I'm so attracted to reading yours, which is why the ignore list is not enough), they will keep clicking the "View Post" button.
 
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"Being reasonable" isn't chasing down every happy thread and throwing some diss on it. And he does it consistently. That's borderline trolling. Get real, okay?
Borderline trolling is bringing up Forza at every conceivable opportunity to say how much better GT5 is even when the discussion is completely unrelated.
Coming into a thread and pointing out a chuckle worthy fanbase reaction (particularly in a thread started by someone who has done nothing but bitch at people for taking any issue with the game) is not.

And the rest of you guys, you know there are pissing threads you can roll around in.
So let me get this straight: People who won't shut up about how great the game is in every possible way can come into the threads discussing legitimate problems and call everyone whiners. But people with any criticisms with the game aren't allowed to come into threads which are slathering praise as if the game is without flaws and express their opinions? Give me a break.
 
I'm not going to thank anyone for the game, i paid money for it, that should be thanks enough.

Great game though, haven't played another game since it came out, so i guess it must be good.
 
I said thank you in the form of cash which I paid for the game. That's how consumer products work... it's not like this was some gift or something which was given to me which I should be thankful for...

It's kind of creepy really how some people respond to GT as if it's some sort of personal relationship they have with Kaz and PD and it's a gift or something....

Well, you could be thankful that they've more or less stayed true to their vision rather than dumb it down to make it appeal to newer and/or more casual players.
 
Or do you think we would have gotten the game just by saying "thanks" in the store and retrieving the game? I don't think so.

Hey if this had been a gfit, like Kaz decided to blow his weekends for a few years to code this up for me as a favor, I would absolutely thank him for it! Unpolished or not it would certainly earn my appreciation.

Glad to see someoene else realizes that in a consumer/business relationship it's not about gratitude but about product and value.

Well, you could be thankful that they've more or less stayed true to their vision rather than dumb it down to make it appeal to newer and/or more casual players.

There is a point where you can stay true to your vision to a fault... when it turns into an obcession that hurts the quality of the final product it's not something to be thankful for anymore....

I can't believe this is the experience that was Kaz's vision... I think Kaz's vision is far from realized right now and I am concerned that perhaps he has painted himself into a corner... he has gone too far for the PS3 to handle it gracefully and too big for it to be developed in a reasonable time, but he is also too far in the process to scale things back for the next edition of the game... I think until we see better hardware in the form of PS4 the vision may have been it's own worst enemy.
 
"So many critics, but where are the video games that they have made to be such "critical" in the first place?"
Your entire post became invalid the second you said this.

Where is your racing sim? If you read it in context (about the uneccesary bickering some people are doing) then it makes sense.
 
Hey if this had been a gfit, like Kaz decided to blow his weekends for a few years to code this up for me as a favor, I would absolutely thank him for it! Unpolished or not it would certainly earn my appreciation.

Glad to see someoene else realizes that in a consumer/business relationship it's not about gratitude but about product and value.
So I cant show appreciation for something I am satisified with? If you dont like the game then fine, but dont tell me what I can be thankful and happy about.
 
Nice try, but no. The reason your OP was made invalid was because of that line. That. Specific. Line. It makes no difference what the context of the line was.


So, answer my question. You say people aren't allowed to criticize this game unless they have direct experience with making racing sims. So where is the racing sim you made? You are expressing opinions just the same way as the people who you say shouldn't be allowed to, so I want to see what makes you qualified to have an opinion about it.

If you are going to play the "Let's see you do better" card you damn well better have direct experience yourself; or you aren't allowed to show appreciation for the game, because all expressing appreciation does after challenging critics to do better is make you a colossal hypocrite. After all, if you are saying that people can't negatively criticize something without direct experience, and you have no direct experience yourself, how the hell would you know if the game is any good or not? You haven't tried your hand at doing the same thing, so you lack the very same baseline that you claim people who disagree with you need to have before they can disagree with you.
 
Glad to see someoene else realizes that in a consumer/business relationship it's not about gratitude but about product and value.

I make things out of stone for a living and have quite a bit of pride in the work I do, even though I am paid for it it's great to know and also motivating that the work is appreciated. Even though there's the financial side, I'm certain the PD team take a lot of pride in their work and seeing a lot of the comments being made around the place will be dis-heartening. I'm not saying those comments shouldn't be made as they should be made aware of what the users want but why not also applaud them on what they got right, yes there's things that need fixed in the game but the disc's not been out my PS3 since I got it on release other than to watch a couple of movies.
 
Nice try, but no. The reason your OP was made invalid was because of that line. That. Specific. Line. It makes no difference what the context of the line was.


So, answer my question. You say people aren't allowed to criticize this game unless they have direct experience with making racing sims. So where is the racing sim you made?

If you are going to play the "Let's see you do better" card you damn well better have direct experience yourself; or you aren't allowed to show appreciation for the game, because all expressing appreciation does after challenging critics to do better is make you a colossal hypocrite.
After all, if you are saying that people can't negatively criticize something without direct experience, and you have no direct experience yourself, how the hell would you know if the game is any good or not? You haven't done better, and you lack the very same baseline that you claim people who disagree with you need to have before they can disagree with you.

Context means everything to what I was saying. These critics have such an easy job talking at the side of the mouths, and trolling boards, and being at arms of a video game. They want it to be exactly what they want it to be, and dont understand the big picture. And when you are so critical about a game that has so much content and great core gameplay to offer (which you can even agree on), then what is this moaning by a irrelevent inconsistent scale and comparing mean to a game of this degree. Lack of appreciation is what makes those comments ridiculous and begs the question of how they are able to make such drastic criticisms of irrelevent things as if they could or would do anything better game. So in theory the question was actually rhetorical as well, since I am pretty sure that if those same critics had all of the rescources to make the game, then they probably wouldnt have done better.
 
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