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How many people do you see wearing a smart watch?
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If you actually look at it, it doesn't have any strong selling points.
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- GTP_Sprite
Well I've been reviewing the prices and I can swing the extra £80 for the top iPhone 6+
At least I'll be able to carry more FLAC files with me on the go.
I never understand the hostility and hate thrown towards phones and the people who use them. They're only phones.
I have considered an Android phone, but my current home set up has a lot of Apple links so I made it easy on me to keep that without having to change anything.
I like the idea of been able to answer calls on my MacBook and iPad if my phone is across the room on charge. I love being able to control my MacBook, Apple TV's from my phone. I know Android can do these things too, with Apple I just works.
I was sat in bed at the weekend producing some music ideas on my iPad Korg app and wanted to hear it through my HiFi, a couple of taps and it's was pumping out in realtime. I didn't have to get up or stop what I was doing.
At least I'll be able to carry more FLAC files with me on the go.
I never understand the hostility and hate thrown towards phones and the people who use them. They're only phones.
I have considered an Android phone, but my current home set up has a lot of Apple links so I made it easy on me to keep that without having to change anything.
I like the idea of been able to answer calls on my MacBook and iPad if my phone is across the room on charge. I love being able to control my MacBook, Apple TV's from my phone. I know Android can do these things too, with Apple I just works.
I was sat in bed at the weekend producing some music ideas on my iPad Korg app and wanted to hear it through my HiFi, a couple of taps and it's was pumping out in realtime. I didn't have to get up or stop what I was doing.
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I love the look of the new phone, especially how the edge of the glass screen curves to match the curvature of the metal frame.
I really don't like the white model though... the white front breaks the continuity of the black display.
Each to their own i guess i reminds me of my mum's old samsung and that never done anything for me looks wise.
White models never look as good in my opinion.
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Anyone who buys the iPhone 6+ over an Android handset; why? Serious question. It's the same size as my LG G3, but with worse specs (besides the processor) and it costs £200 more. Is iOS really £200 better? Because I've used it and I don't think it is.
I'm not trying to start a flame war or anything, I'm just curious as to why people think it's worth £200 more.
I'm not trying to start a flame war or anything, I'm just curious as to why people think it's worth £200 more.
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To me it was just one of "those things" * that just caught my eye... I like just about anything android over apple... but I have an iPad, Galaxy S2, and a Windows PC. I dont find it Feasible to replace two for the matching one, but I use my iOS device a lot, and my phone somewhat... I think I might get the 5C (Free is free and thats money towards an CBR600RR) to pair the two.
I prefer many things from Windows over Apple, and many things of Apple over Windows. It is all about ease of use and customization levels which matter. I like the simplicity of Apple's devices, but when I need a windows device, it's there..
*I don't know what it was.... it looks like it was carried over better. I would still consider the Galaxy gear but I need to look into it more. The Apple Watch had a better release stage vs. the Galaxy Gear (IMO)
I'd love Clarkson to do a smart*** review for it, or better, Harry Enfield
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Smart-ass remarks aside, this is how I see things as well.
I've tried iPhone's, but I've only bought Android's and for me it's what makes more sense. Right now, I have a Note 3 (which I bought more than a year ago) and can't even begin to feel the slightest enthusiasm over these new iPhone specs.
Having said that, I don't think I'm smarter than anyone else and - fanaticism aside - always try to respect other people's choices.
Afterall, these are just stupid phones we're talking about here.
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I'll probably be upgrading to a 64gb iPhone 6, the 6+ is way too big. And as for the watch, I'm really interested to see what kind of battery life the watch gets and how much of a hit the phones battery will take with the watch paired to it.
I installed iOS 8 on my iPad mini yesterday, so far I'm not too impressed. But I think it will get more exciting when widgets and keyboards start getting released into the app store. I had to send my phone out to Apple to have the lock button fixed, as soon as I get it back I'll be loading iOS 8 my iPhone 5 too.
I installed iOS 8 on my iPad mini yesterday, so far I'm not too impressed. But I think it will get more exciting when widgets and keyboards start getting released into the app store. I had to send my phone out to Apple to have the lock button fixed, as soon as I get it back I'll be loading iOS 8 my iPhone 5 too.
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I just find it unnerving how they never release actual specs it's just it's 25% faster than the other one. To be honest If I'm going to spend 600 pounds on a phone I want it to be personal to me and have actual specs
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If I got hacked and my digital life disappeared then it wouldn't bother me too much.
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One thing I'm dissapointed with is that they still have a 16gb option for the iPhone 6/6+. 16gb is barely big enough for apps alone. And considering how cheap flash memory is, they really should just have 32/64/128gb options for the $199/299/399 pricing tiers. Instead, now there is a huge gap between 16 and 64gb options.
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Comparing specs is a bit of a pointless exercise considering they run vastly different OSs. I suspect that the 6+ - like previous iPhones - isn't a slouch in cross platform benchmarks, but those are pointless too really. It'll still be smooth and responsive when running iOS. iOS isn't £200 better, but the selection of apps may well be worth that depending on your use - music production and photography apps are pretty nice on iOS. And when I say photography I don't mean Instagram or VSCO, I'm talking about apps you'd use in a pro environment like Elinchrom Skyport, Hasselblad Phocus, and Capture Pilot. Adobe might even end up porting Lightroom Mobile to the 6+, the screen res is high enough. Speaking of the screen, 1080p is pretty nice. 1440p is nicer, yes, but I'd need to see the screens in person. Colour gamut and accuracy is far more important for me, and I've had a good experience with Apple's screens in that regard (unlike Samsung who love to oversaturate their colours). The camera on the 6+ looks promising too - 1080p/60 (compared to 1080p/30 on the LG) with 720p/240, which will be a lot of fun to use in post. 8MP with a larger pixel pitch should be nicer than the 5S, won't know how it stacks up with the LG yet though. Same goes for the lenses. Both have optical image stabilisation and both seem to have snappy AF - the LG with its laser, the 6+ seems to have dedicated phase detect pixels like Canon's 70D or Sony's A6000 cameras. Battery life will probably be better on the 6+. Build quality should be nice too, haven't held the G4 though. And I've always had good experiences when dealing with Apple should something go wrong.
This gen really should have started at 32GB though, I'm pretty disappointed about that.
Robin
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It seems Apple has also quietly killed off the last of the breed.... the iPod Classic. 2001-2014 RIP.
It's been unchanged since 2009 and has 160GB capacity. It means that for people who have HUGE offline music collections their only Apple choice is the 128GB iPhone 6 which is considerably more expensive. I would have thought they would update it with a bigger hard drive or at least keep it in production but I guess sales have finally tailed off.
I could see them also eventually killing of the iPod Touch because it is become less and less relevant and the price difference for it over a phone is negligible.
@SniperRed3 Apple's prices for capacity differences are INSANE, it's totally to lock people in to buying the bigger one because they know they can't add on later. It is one of the most irritating traits of Apple and 16GB basically won't hold anything.
It's been unchanged since 2009 and has 160GB capacity. It means that for people who have HUGE offline music collections their only Apple choice is the 128GB iPhone 6 which is considerably more expensive. I would have thought they would update it with a bigger hard drive or at least keep it in production but I guess sales have finally tailed off.
I could see them also eventually killing of the iPod Touch because it is become less and less relevant and the price difference for it over a phone is negligible.
@SniperRed3 Apple's prices for capacity differences are INSANE, it's totally to lock people in to buying the bigger one because they know they can't add on later. It is one of the most irritating traits of Apple and 16GB basically won't hold anything.
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I keep all my digital files on a separate HDD which is backed up periodically. I don't use online storage and use Flickr to share images not keep them safe. As for communications I'm more than happy speaking to someone in person rather than by phone, email, SMS, Twitter, Facebook or other social media/forum. So if all digital mediums got wiped out around the world and I could no longer have any of it, meh!
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I'm probably going to pick a classic up in the next few weeks (I lost my old one years ago). Nothing else on the market really compares to it, love the capacity, simple UI, compact size, and long battery life. The sound quality was good enough, even better when you used a line-out connector going into an amp. A perfect update for me would be a 256GB flash drive, retina screen, and a lightning connector to unify my chargers. Sad to see the product that turned Apple around killed off, but the market isn't really there anymore. People keep saying that streaming is the future, but data plans are far too measly and expensive to truly replace a large collection. Signal coverage can be terrible too.
I did wonder this myself , i guess is so people buy the 64 gb version as i've got 16gb on my current iPhone 5 and it's definitely not enough with today's app/update sizes.
I will also need to skip upgrading to ios8 as this will more than likely take up the remaining memory on my phone.
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Not too impressed with the new phones, since I really like the form factor of my iPhone 5s and it runs everything I use more than fast enough. Yeah, it's biggger, faster, etc.
Unlike some people above I don't value specifications, especially after the dual core iPhone (was it the 5 or 5s?) wiped the floor with a quad core Android device in the benchmarks. In the end, it's not about the specs, it's about the actual performance. What's an 800HP car worth if a 400HP car beats it at every level? I want to see the gaming and browser rendering benchmarks, along with battery life. Real life ones, not synthetic ones.
Apples NFC (Apple Pay) implementation is going to be a huge thing in the USA. Since it uses encryption/tokenization all the way to the payment provider, this means breaches like Target/Home Depot are no longer possible (since the merchant will not have access to your payment details!), a massive step up from credit cards (unlike other implementations like Google Wallet). In the EU they're going to have a harder time, since we already use more secure and cheaper ways of payment over here (like chip-based and NFC debit cards, along with custom payment implementations by banks that leverage existing NFC devices like Android).
The watch...hmmm, not sure about the whole wearable concept to be honest, so far all I've seen is crappy implementations.
Unlike some people above I don't value specifications, especially after the dual core iPhone (was it the 5 or 5s?) wiped the floor with a quad core Android device in the benchmarks. In the end, it's not about the specs, it's about the actual performance. What's an 800HP car worth if a 400HP car beats it at every level? I want to see the gaming and browser rendering benchmarks, along with battery life. Real life ones, not synthetic ones.
Apples NFC (Apple Pay) implementation is going to be a huge thing in the USA. Since it uses encryption/tokenization all the way to the payment provider, this means breaches like Target/Home Depot are no longer possible (since the merchant will not have access to your payment details!), a massive step up from credit cards (unlike other implementations like Google Wallet). In the EU they're going to have a harder time, since we already use more secure and cheaper ways of payment over here (like chip-based and NFC debit cards, along with custom payment implementations by banks that leverage existing NFC devices like Android).
The watch...hmmm, not sure about the whole wearable concept to be honest, so far all I've seen is crappy implementations.
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I agree, in the US I don't think they have anything other than full blown credit cards making potential fraud losses limitless. In Europe where debit cards are the norm it's going to be less attractive. The limited amount of spending money on them coupled with a low capped overdraft basically makes them secure and the losses are easily recoverable. Do US cards have chips on them now?
I think Asia is going to be their hardest market for the system because they already have very mature contactless payment systems since the 90's. You could just stick an RFID sticker on the bottom of any phone and do the same thing.
EDIT - Just noticed the crazy US/UK price difference yet again... For the 128GB 6 Plus. £587 in the US, £789 in UK. £202 price difference.
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According to GSMarena (and phonearena) 1080p is still 30fps though. Really weird considering it's doing 2160p at 30fps too. 2160p would be really nice for stabilisation in post.
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How even does the Iphone 6 get away with a dual core 1.4 GHz at THAT price?
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It's no more expensive than the iPhone 5 (in 16GB form in the UK) when it was new. If it had a quad core there would probably be a price hike (because Apple).
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Because Apple usually goes for what's enough and not with what's the current standard. For the general social media stuff a very decent Dual core chip (like the A7 and A8) are enough, and for games you have a dedicated GPU.
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Refer to this:
iPhone 5S already did that spec wise but I doubt many Apple haters would change their mind, look at following benchmark that should favour Android phones at time of 5S release:
Now newer version of benchmark on some of the current top phones:
While benchmarks like this don't really matter in day to day use, they're good for seeing where processors stand in regard to each other. Quad cores in phones seem to be a marketing gimmick to me - are there any Android apps that make heavy use of them?
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Benchmarks in general are very silly with phones, especially with the numbers you're getting most manufacturers (especially Apple) have some weird trickery going on that is actually not really representing the real performance of the phone. Benchmarking, like with PC's, are just a penis measuring contest. I can play all current mobile games on my Moto G with a Snapdragon 400 Quadcore and Adreno 305 fluently on the highest settings (if possible to adjust) and apps open very fast.
