The Bugatti Veyron
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It's pretty self explanatory isn't it? Murray is very critical of the Veyron in the context of comparing it to the F1. The two cars were built to meet very different goals (which to be fair, he does elaborate on in his article) but he is very quick to criticise the veyron for being heavy and for chasing numbers (ie. 1,001hp and 400km/h).
At the end of the day, those numbers are what make to veyron so special. There may be faster cars some day (soon) but Bugatti achieved with the Veyron what people thought would never be achieved, and it put a dying brand back on the map.
While I would never buy a veyron if I had the money, you can't deny it's significance in automotive history and can only marvel at the engineering that went into making it possible
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- Massachusetts
- pakiman740
Well it certainly is a tank, but despite its weaknesses one has to admire how it can handle that much power. Honestly even if it is in a straight line, a road car being that fast, amazing and exquisite.
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- plinsavi or GTP_plinsavi
He criticizes the Veyron because it goes against his philosophy and I agree completely with him.
IMO, cars shouldn't be designed with random figures driving the project. Those numbers don't make the Veyron special, they make it silly. A child could come out with those numbers.
It was indeed a great achievement that the engineers could reach those figures without ruining everything else in the car. I would not want to be on their shoes. But they did not achieve the goal without overcomplicating every single functional aspect of the car.
For me it has no significance in automotive history as, being a road car, the only thing where it exceeds the other cars (top speed) has no use on the road.
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- King's Lynn, Norfolk
They do, but if you bought a Veyron SS the fastest you could go is 258mph in top speed mode as they're limited for some reason. The car used for the record was unlimited. The Venom reached 265 in 2 miles from 0, whereas the Veyron was tested on a 12 mile straight on a huge oval. Cars like the Venom and Koenigseggs are capable of 270 plus, and would be a lot more fun to drive in GT6 if they were added.
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- Hitchin
- alphabeatagaga
ugly outside. very ugly inside. rubbish handling. way way overpriced.
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- Chicago, iLL
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Car sells for less than it costs to build and still manages to be over priced...
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- Gentoo64
I haven't bought it but thought it was nice on the licence test to drive, nice and smooth. It's a luxury car good for cruising and pulling in a straight line - what most people do around the streets.
Nothing stopping Murray putting 10 turbos in the F1, but the F1 was built a fair while ago now when people had proper passion for driving. Now it's just all numbers, and the main market for most supercars now is gangster rappers.
Nothing stopping Murray putting 10 turbos in the F1, but the F1 was built a fair while ago now when people had proper passion for driving. Now it's just all numbers, and the main market for most supercars now is gangster rappers.
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- QuikSlvr223
I do like it, but I think it is extremely overrated. There are newer cars going faster with less weight and looking better while doing it. The Agera R or the Hennessey Venom GT, for example.
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- GTP_Nismo
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And a veyron is worth 2-3 million, hence my comment.
And the veyron is a far greater engineering feat than the F1 if you ask me. To have a car that can do 400km/h but still be as easy to drive and as comfortable as a Camry is incredible.
Don't get me wrong, I would own an F1 over a veyron any day but anyone who denies that the veyron is an engineering marvel knows nothing about engineering
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- King's Lynn, Norfolk
I do think VW have done a great job making it refined and comfortable, but cars with this power and speed should reward the driver. It is a blunt instrument in that aspect.
It is a big engineering achievement, just not as big as the F1 was, especially as the F1 is over 20 years old.
I think we will have to agree to disagree.
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Fair call, the F1 was an amazing achievement at the time.
As Murray mentions, the two were designed for very different audiences. Despite the fact that he never intended on racing the F1, it was very successful at Le Mans and in GT racing.
The veyron, on the other hand, could never be raced and that's probably why it doesn't appeal to me as much
As Murray mentions, the two were designed for very different audiences. Despite the fact that he never intended on racing the F1, it was very successful at Le Mans and in GT racing.
The veyron, on the other hand, could never be raced and that's probably why it doesn't appeal to me as much
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The Veyron is an amazing engineering achievement, but not my kind of car. I don't share any hate for it like a lot of people though, I admire the accomplishment of such an amazing machine.
The handling is probably pretty good given how heavy the car is, but with it being so fast it does feel like a brick when you balance cornering ability with the sheer straight line speed.
The handling is probably pretty good given how heavy the car is, but with it being so fast it does feel like a brick when you balance cornering ability with the sheer straight line speed.
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