The Camaro is Back: Year 2007

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menglan
his last review says the camaro is a great car in every category except handling -gets straight A's in everything but handling -must try harder Yet Y_W says it sucks.

From the second review, the pros far outweigh the cons. I guess he hasn't learned to interpret data from an article yet.

10,000 pounds?

an M3, a supra turbo, and and R32 all cost way more than the Camaro.

Hey... I like FOX news, but I also watch CNN.

Not in the UK and the camaro sucks because its ugly and handles like a pig. All that article said was that its comfortable and good in a straight line. I never scontested that but everyhting else about the car sucked.
 
So, I take it that none of these "magazines know what the word profiling means. And have any of these "magazines" driven a Holden Monaro or it's 20 other brand hacked brothers, which are basically the exact same idea as the Camaro/Firebird twins?
Young_Warrior
Mitsubishi lancer evolution. R32GTR. Supra turbo.

Oh and a 86 bmw m3 as seen on a certain car chase by the policeman in the 350hp camaro.

Oh and plenty of cars outhandle a camaro.

MX5 RX7 R32 Evo Impreza S2000 M3 Every single AMG .
For the record, some douche speeding in a old Iroc Z doesn't exactly count as a performance test (they also didn't have 350 HP then). Besides, haven't you seen the one where the cop in the Camaro catches the M3???!!! Imprezas and Evos are faster than most of the things on the road, period. R32 GT-R's cost around $80,000 when new and every one was sold at a loss. AMG's cost more than most cars (any cars) do (besides, I doubt the ones that weigh 3 tons can outhandle much). MX-5's outhandle most things on the road as they weigh nothing. RX-7's don't either. M3's cost $70,000. And S2000's cost just as much as Camaros, yet only have 240 BHP and need to be revved to 8000 RPM to go fast at all.
 
Young_Warrior
Not in the UK and the camaro sucks because its ugly and handles like a pig. All that article said was that its comfortable and good in a straight line. I never scontested that but everyhting else about the car sucked.

It might be ugly, I like it but I'm sure there are a lot of people who think it's ugly. However it is no pig. You need to drive sh** before you open your mouth.
 
You don't contest the pros of the car that is a great value, a joy to drive, and has many other plusses mentioned in the article, but because it's "ugly and handles like a pig" it sucks?

You are hopelessly biased. 9 or 10 good things clearly outwiegh 2 bad things. I guess 2 is greater than 9 in your mind.


Again, who are "they"?

Where did your sources come from?

I'm trying to be perfectly candid about this, but my blood is beginning to boil.
 
Y_W, please, post where your sources came from. You are clearly biased and ignorant, resulting in the fact that reasoning with you is impossible. go on disliking the camaro, but don't try to convince us it sucks.

I'm beginning to think you make up your sources. Are you the second coming of Double_R?
 
Ok calm down menglan I will post sources in a minute.

Eh how can a car be fun to drive if it handles like a pig. Each of those reviews said it was fun to drive in a straight line but round corners it wasnt. One reviewer even stated it as boring around corners.
 
IT DOESN'T HANDLE LIKE AN EFFIN PIG YOU IDIOT!!!! Jesus Christ go drive a Camaro and get back with me.
 
menglan
Y_W, please, post where your sources came from. You are clearly biased and ignorant, resulting in the fact that reasoning with you is impossible. go on disliking the camaro, but don't try to convince us it sucks.

I'm beginning to think you make up your sources. Are you the second coming of Double_R?


Whose Double_R and I said the sources are coming. I disliked the camaro I never tried convincing anyone to dislike it with me. Infact you guys are the ones trying to convince me it doesnt suck.
 
Pro: Günstige Anschaffung, ausgezeichnete Fahrleistungen
Con: Qualität, Wiederverkauf verm. schlecht, Fahreigenschaften, Bremsen, Unterhalt teuer.
Hallo Freund amerikanischer Autos! Alle anderen sollten hier besser nicht weiterlesen. Erbärmlich schlechte Sitze ohne Seitenhalt, Spaltmaße in denen man Spargel pflanzen könnte, nachlässige Verarbeitung und hie und da ein knarren oder klappern zählen zu den Eigenschaften, die ein Auto auf dem deutschen Markt tunlichst vermeiden sollte. Der Camaro Z28 tut dies ...

Translation

PROS: cheap to run lots of power for money rare in germany
CONS: Build Quality, Depreciation, rubbish breakes and handling and that last bit I dont know what it means.

So overall fast in straight line sucks at everything else.
 
Dude quite being a douche and just tell us where you are getting this from. You have proving to me more then once that you are an idiot and a troll. You need to get your ass off these forums.
 
I've got homework and other things to do that are more important than reasoning with somebody who's ignorant. Young_Warrior, we can continue this discussion later.
 
z28-8.jpg

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Ewwwwwwwww what an ugly cabin.


SOURCES

http://www.parkers.co.uk/choosing/carreviews/archivedReview.aspx?range_id=1009
http://www.channel4.com/4car/road-tests/C/chevrolet/camaro98-01/camaro98-01.html
http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/car-reviews/car-and-driving/chevrolet-camaro-2004281.html
 
Young_warrior...please just shut up and quit talking. You are making yourself look like a bigger idiot then you are. I really think you should give it a rest since you have 0 clue to what you are talking about.
 
Just because all my sources say the car is rubbish you flame me. Hell all I can go by to come to my verdict of it sucking is the ghastly exterior/interior styling which I can see for my own to eyes and the reviews that people have written.
 
You can think what you want, but I would suggest not coming into threads like this. You are wrong, many of us know it, but whatever. Your little punk ass isn't worth my time any more.
 
Wow, it took an hour to post your sources? took ya long enough. You've based it completely on looks. And you generalized, saying all camaros sucked. But you only showed why one generation did.

Your sources say it's not that bad of a car, not that it's a piece of crap.


Forget it. You're not worth my time anymore. I've got better things to do.
 
BlazinXtreme
You can think what you want, but I would suggest not coming into threads like this. You are wrong, many of us know it, but whatever. Your little punk ass isn't worth my time any more.

Why do you care so much that the camaro sucks. You dont see me getting all upset when you guys critizise my beloved bimma or audi. I know that every car has its flaws and that every car as some kind of advantage over another.

And hell most the cars we critic none of us will ever drive or own anyway. Its just a piece of metal slapped together for someone to rake in the money.
 
EVERYONE CHILL!

Ok, let's take it down a notch.

YW is entilted to his opinion. But we shouldn't bash his brounds out even if we think he's wrong.

Fact of the matter is for less then 25K USD the camaro was a very good car. Period. It didn't have the best handling in the world. But guess what...It wasn't built for that. So to be honest, I'm not worried that everyone in Europe thinks it can't handle. That's like saying, "This ferrari is nice, but where's the spot for the baby seat?"

Anyway, let's all take it down a notch and start talking about the new camaro huh?

I honestly don't see a point in it since the GTO and Vette both come from the same company. But that's just me.
 
Swift
EVERYONE CHILL!

Ok, let's take it down a notch.

YW is entilted to his opinion. But we shouldn't bash his brounds out even if we think he's wrong.

Fact of the matter is for less then 25K USD the camaro was a very good car. Period. It didn't have the best handling in the world. But guess what...It wasn't built for that. So to be honest, I'm not worried that everyone in Europe thinks it can't handle. That's like saying, "This ferrari is nice, but where's the spot for the baby seat?"

Anyway, let's all take it down a notch and start talking about the new camaro huh?

I honestly don't see a point in it since the GTO and Vette both come from the same company. But that's just me.


Phew....alright Swift you got it buddy. Thats a big 10-4!

Anywho there isn't really any talk of bringing back the Camaro, the GTO has the market right now. And frankly it seems to be working, the GTO isn't bad, needs a redesign though since its built for Aussie roads, not American roads. Fast as hell though.
 
BlazinXtreme
Phew....alright Swift you got it buddy. Thats a big 10-4!

Anywho there isn't really any talk of bringing back the Camaro, the GTO has the market right now. And frankly it seems to be working, the GTO isn't bad, needs a redesign though since its built for Aussie roads, not American roads. Fast as hell though.

I just don't like the fact that it LOOKS like a suped up grand prix.
 
They are redesigning the GTO, I have no idea what it's going to look like, but I was pissed that GM rebadged a Holden and called it the GTO.

I think GM would be smart if they made the Grand Prix, Imapla, Monte Carlo...all RWD along with changing the GTO. You would have uber preformance there.
 
BlazinXtreme
They are redesigning the GTO, I have no idea what it's going to look like, but I was pissed that GM rebadged a Holden and called it the GTO.

I think GM would be smart if they made the Grand Prix, Imapla, Monte Carlo...all RWD along with changing the GTO. You would have uber preformance there.

Yes, but then the majority of the people that would drive them(women) wouldn't want to anymore.

I do think the impala should be FR though but what are you going to do.
 
Well thats why you have cars like the G6, basically the FWD Grand Prix. I don't know I would like to see more RWD.
 
BlazinXtreme
Well thats why you have cars like the G6, basically the FWD Grand Prix. I don't know I would like to see more RWD.

Me too. It's a better drivetrain, period. But it costs more to make so you see less of them.
 
Me too. It's a better drivetrain, period. But it costs more to make so you see less of them.

Actually GM has the means to make it cheaper. I think they should but there is so much red tape at GM it makes me cry from time to time.

im still waiting for official pictures of this camaro...

You won't any time soon.
 
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