The dominant car in GT5

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First things first, this not a wishlist.

This is just an idea that came to me whilst watching a movie (I forget the title but anyway). Basically there's a guy, and his friend owns this club that makes them fairly rich. He goes to an exotic car dealer to buy something exotic, obviously, and he can't decide on what to choose.

He is unimpressed by what is there, and is ready to leave when he spots a silver lamborghini Diablo parked nearby. He decides 'this is it' and rolls out of the dealership feeling very proud of his new toy.

Now, whilst that has nothing to do with GT in itself. The car struck me as the one I would probably pick out of the litter. And that got me thinking...

When you play a game for the first time, you're understandably gonna want to look around and get a feel for the game. So when we are faced with the GT world map for the first time, we're gonna see where everything is, how it's all layed out, and maybe peek into a few "aspirational" dealerships.

And generally the first country most players are gonna make a bee-line for, is the home of the Raging bull and Prancing Stallion, Italy. Now I would go out on a limb to say that 99% of people who play GT are going to recognise Ferrari when they see it, and they'll probably check that out first before moving on to its sparring partner, Lamborghini.

Flicking through those cars makes you go, Woah, I want one of those! And then you save up until you can buy one, whether it seems to help your game or not :)

Now, as we all know. This is going to be a huge step forward in regards to the GT series. In recent times, we have seen quite alot unfold.
We will get Damage, Weather (Dynamic or not), NASCAR, Indy, WRC, Super GT and, as previously mentioned, some very special manufacturers thrown in for good measure. + Much more.

Now on the basis of keeping this as simple as possible. (which is failing impeccably may I add) I want to know what you think will be the dominant car will be in GT5. By Dominant I mean becoming the vehicle of choice for most casual gamers as well as the more commited types. Whilst this might not apply to everyone, I think it will be interesting to find out which car we'd choose in advance, for both online and offline racing.

My personal opinion is most people will sway in favour of the Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4. Why? Based on many things. Firstly, and maybe most importantly, it is a Lambo. Which means every man and his dog knows what it (generally) is. And that is is fast. Secondly, it boasts very high numbers in terms of power and torque. Also now that we have weather, I believe it's going to change this game for good. Especially so if it's dynamic. Remembering that Lambos have all-wheel drive, the choice for a car in the wet becomes sooooo much easier. Playing GT4 in the wet recently reminded me of this as I pasted numerous Callaways and the like in my stock suby wagon from a decade ago. Mainly because the suby was AWD and so easy to drive in the wet. An all wheel drive that goes like a fezza in the dry seems like a logical choice, considering that an Audi R8 V10 is also AWD but has less power. The only thing I see coming close in terms of performance is the GT-R, but it is only a Nissan. And my grandma drives a Nissan...

My only example from GT5P would be the Amuse S2000. Around Suzuka you'd be hard pressed to find a race without half the grid being made up of the things, because they are just so damned fast and easy to drive.

This might be another thread that dies, but so long as I got it out there.
As I said it was just an idea, but one that I think we can all relate to.
I apologise for any grammar errors, but it is 2am here and I have a bandaid on my finger. FYI the only reason I'm posting here at 2am was because my cat got sick and I can't go back to sleep.

I also apologise for such a long post, for those who read it all, I would like to hear your views as to what you think.

-Mic
 
MkII golf gti 16v... looking exactly like my daily driver. that'd be awesome! Infinately more satisfying than driving a super car I cant relate to.
 
Dominant car? You mean "easy drive-easy win"?

In fm3: Audi S5, Dodge Viper '03, Lamborghini Murcielago LP640
In GT5: probably the same... or an electric car :D
 
FYI the only reason I'm posting here at 2am was because my cat got sick and I can't go back to sleep.

:lol:

My only example from GT5P would be the Amuse S2000. Around Suzuka you'd be hard pressed to find a race without half the grid being made up of the things, because they are just so damned fast and easy to drive.

Easy to drive? I find it quite a challenging car to drive with all assists off but that's your opinion. :P

To answer your question, I'm not really sure. It could be a Ferrari or Lambo but I really want to see most of the cars before I pick the first car I will save up for. In GT4, it was the Ford GT for me :)
 
Maybe some Clio or Citroen AX. Who knows what cars will be blowing of GTRs and Ferraris.
 
Nissan GTR.

For the sole reason that it it will be cheap ingame just as it is in real life.

It won't be my favourite car, and nor will it be the fastest in its class. But its 4WD makes it easy to drive so it will be a choice for casual gamers too.

In GT5P money was so easy to come by, but the GTR was always the best first choice for a super car because it was so damn cheap.

Though i think the ZR1 and ACR Viper will be very attractive prospects, not just for the American users out there, but everyone. They are both considerably more expensive than the GTR though, even if they are cheaper than their Italians rivals.

As for the 'dominant' cars for online play, i reckon we will be seeing a lot of Fxxs (If it makes it into the game that is).
 
I echo any sentiments that conclude Lambo's or Audi's for practical reasons. Some people tend to want to get competitive online quickly and those will probably be, just like Forza 3, the best cars to stack up wins easily.

I myself will be making a bee-line for Ferrari, though.
 
I have to say that I don't believe there will be such a thing. The reason I say it is I'm racing in GT5P for quite some time and in every different event, there are always about 3 different cars that are chosen by most people with a few oddballs here and there. And that's with a very limited amount of cars to choose from.

There will be a few favorites arising for each category. And with a category division it will be hard to pinpoint a winner.
 
Cant really predict right now , not with the actual oficial manufacturer list... theres 1000+ cars... thats A LOOOT. I think there will be not just "ONE" single car that owns everyone else.. if they implement the tuning like the olds gts... the possibilities are endless , every car could become a good one...

Anyway, i want to drive cars that i could really buy some day... ( thats the fun about gran turismo, cars that you would never see in other racing games, are in fact there ). Offcourse i want to tryout some "dreams" too... ( ferraris, lambos and etc ).
 
Personally, I will also be heading straight for Ferrari. The F40 is easily one of my favorite cars of all-time and there's no way that i won't have at least one in my garage.

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I rather hope that GT5 is as balanced as Prologue was and doesn't provide a "dominant" car. In early Prologue, the Lotus Elise was bugged for its PP level and became dominant for that, there is alsot he Clio Tuned which is way too good for its class.

I doubt with 1000 cars that people will pick one specific common model from the start, people will learn from playing online over time which are the most superior cars.
But I agree with the argument that most will probably be targeting big names like Ferrari, Lamborghini and Bugatti initially. The wiser drivers out there will probably be going for Lotus to try and gain an advantage, while people like me will be trying everything and using the underdog cars :)

Fortunately, this game has a very large variety of cars, so its really personal taste where one would go first. The NASCAR fans will go for NASCARs first, WRC to rally, Open-wheelers to IRL, etc. There are even those of us who enjoy the simple, fun racing of low-range FF cars like the Suzuki Swift ;)
 
Probably the GT-R since it was overboosted in GT5P and overhyped in reality (not saying it's not fast, but people seem to think it can beat F1 cars or something).

As for me, the flagship manufacturer will be the same one that caught my attention in GT1, Dodge. Nothing beats a Viper in blue in white stripes. I had over 20 Vipers in GT4, with the promises of better tuning and online play, I may just have 50 ACR's alone in GT5.

Other cars I'm looking forward too are the TVR Speed 12, Saleen S7 (hopefully modeled correctly this time), Pagani Zonda, Toyota GT-One Road Car, R390 Road Car, and probably more once I see them in game.
 
Probably the GT-R since it was overboosted in GT5P and overhyped in reality (not saying it's not fast, but people seem to think it can beat F1 cars or something).


I dont think the GT-R was exaggerated in gt5p, because it tends to lap quicker than most cars in reality... I think its pretty realistic, it will get beaten on the straights by more powerful cars, but make it up in the bends. As for the claim that it will beat an f1 car lol people must be insane :)

im not having a go at you mate, just simply stating my opinion on the GTR in prologue. I guess my username could suggest a slight bias towards N155ANs lol ;)

back on topic:

I feel the easiest cars are going to be popular , i.e a GTR out the showroom is pretty fast and easy to drive whereas people like myself will look to tune the "underdog" cars in an aim to compete with the super/hyper cars. I also think that the Lambos and Ferraris will be bought simply because of the prestige that comes with the name, but i doubt many "casual" gamers will be able to control them on professional physics.
 
I dont think the GT-R was exaggerated in gt5p, because it tends to lap quicker than most cars in reality... I think its pretty realistic, it will get beaten on the straights by more powerful cars, but make it up in the bends. As for the claim that it will beat an f1 car lol people must be insane :)

I agree about the GT-R. Newbs (like me) love it because it's so easy to drive but put it against against a california or a clio and you'll have trouble keeping up to them.
 
Not so sure the lambo will be omnipotent, remember its a very heavy car so may be tricky on tracks with fast direction changes. In slippery conditions on tracks with lower speed corners I wouldn't discount the Delta S4 or similar.

I'm sure it will be a matter of horses for courses.
 
McLaren MP4-12C... if it's in GT5 and if it's as good as I'm hoping it will be. It's relatively small and light with innovative ways of optimising mass centralisation so should have very neutral handling. I have to agree with the AWD points though as it does make driving over the limit easier and will be a huge advantage in wet conditions.

I’m really looking forward to the Pagani’s and other big hyper cars but they probably will be a bit of a handful especially online when the pressure is on.
 
I also think that the Lambos and Ferraris will be bought simply because of the prestige that comes with the name, but i doubt many "casual" gamers will be able to control them on professional physics.

Agreed :lol:

Since GT5 physics is going to be more advance than GT5 prologue I doubt the casuals will even bother using the pro physics. Even in GT5 TT demo you can feel the stock 370Z can spin out if that lame o TC is off if you were not careful.
 
ow I would go out on a limb to say that 99% of people who play GT are going to recognise Ferrari when they see it, and they'll probably check that out first before moving on to its sparring partner, Lamborghini.

I'll disagree with you and go out on a limb and say most others will as well. Most people tend to see if their real life car is in the game. Not with all racing games, but with the GT series, that's what I've noticed.
 
I dont think the GT-R was exaggerated in gt5p, because it tends to lap quicker than most cars in reality... I think its pretty realistic, it will get beaten on the straights by more powerful cars, but make it up in the bends. As for the claim that it will beat an f1 car lol people must be insane :)

im not having a go at you mate, just simply stating my opinion on the GTR in prologue. I guess my username could suggest a slight bias towards N155ANs lol ;)

Haha, not a problem, look at my avatar.

Though I'm fine with the GT-R being the fastest road car in GT5P, it probably is in reality.

There are/were two problems with it.

1- It seemed to get a PP advantage. ie, in a race of set PP (say 700), GT-R were always winning. Early in GT5P, this was a huge problem. PP was supposed to level the field, but the GT-R seemed to be good everywhere. It's been toned down now thankfully.

2- It was MUCH faster than other road cars. Sadly, I could not do direct comparisons (the only track in GT5P with a GT-R time that I found was Suzuka, and there was almost no other comparable GT5 car to test against the GT-R). I could set a lap in a Corvette with S1 tires for example, and then beat that time in N3 GT-R. That shouldn't be possible, as the gap from N3 to S1 is huge, almost like street tires to race tires in real life.

The Ford GT also seemed a little crazy, the car had ridiculously low drag and is absolutely anchored in corners. Track tests seem 'average' more than anything.

Then there were the Vipers, either the SRT-10 is too slippery, or the GTS is too grippy. The GTS seemed to handle 500 hp better than the SRT-10 at times, and it's common knowledge that the SRT-10 handles worlds better.

Here's a random test showing the R8 keeping up with GT-R (though usually, the GT-R is a bit faster than the R8). In GT5P, I can never get them to come close.

http://www.motortrend.com/features/..._track_testing/mitsubishi_evo_mr_audi_r8.html

http://www.motortrend.com/features/...ck_testing/porsche_911_turbo_nissan_gt_r.html

I guess in theory though, it could be like you said, the GT-R is easy to drive. I could just not be good enough to reach the potential of the other cars. I don't remember the time trial leader boards anymore, but I don't think the GT-R had as big a gap between other cars there as it did in my tests.



Not so sure the lambo will be omnipotent, remember its a very heavy car so may be tricky on tracks with fast direction changes. In slippery conditions on tracks with lower speed corners I wouldn't discount the Delta S4 or similar.

I'm sure it will be a matter of horses for courses.

The LP 560 seems quick in the corners, Road and Track got it to be either 1st or second in an autocross event against cars like the ACR and GT-R.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/c...est!/4-track_free-for-all-3a_autocross_page_3
 
two fair points you raised there :)

your right, the GTR seems to have a larger gap in my personal lap tests too lol, especially on suzuka
 
Bugatti Veyron and Ferrari Enzo I think

Bugatti would be my guess too, don't know why but I don't like Ferrari/Lambo :/
The new SLS AMG (the one from the game cover) could be pretty nice too, but there aren't that much Mercedes fans I think :D
 
GT40 by Ford. The new GT's are nice and all but the original is still the best in my book. McLaren F1 running a real close second. With the Veyron figuring into those plans somewhere along the line.
 
If the structure of the game is going to be anything liek the previous GTs, then it has to be somekind of EVO and of course the GT-R.


I remember being able to practically go through races after races with just one car(evo/ igt-r)n GT2-GT4. Varying the mods to suit the requirements.

But that got boring quickly.. haha
 
I'm making a bee line to the LFA, to sample that glorious wail :D
It should handle real good too, in the dry that is :)

My usual standby will be a Subaru 22B and a Pulsar Gti-R (if it makes the game!)
 
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