The game is over 9Gb!

Probably a compression technique is used, and he is stating the uncompressed information. For example, the intro could be compressed ala Divx style, which takes up much less space than it normally would. Or they could have used more disc service having a more accurate writing system??
 
Or maybe a 1 Arcade disc, and 1 Sim disc like GT2.

*edit* nevermind after reading the article it does state that they will use a dual layer disc
 
Azuremen
Probably a compression technique is used, and he is stating the uncompressed information. For example, the intro could be compressed ala Divx style, which takes up much less space than it normally would. Or they could have used more disc service having a more accurate writing system??

i think it has something to do with the way the physical size is said..

for example, the box of a single layer DVD-R disc will say it holds 4.7gb, but in reality in only holds 4,464mb which is approximately 4.35gigabytes..
 
If they can pull it off on one disk, then that disk will most likely be more advanced than even the Halo 2 disk, and possibly even some computer disks. (J/p 'bout comp).

But seriously, if they do pull this off, then GT4 will be one of the most advanced disks in gaming history. Even more advanced than a precious Halo 2 Limited Edition.
 
Burnable discs (DVD-R's and the like) don't have the capacity of a pressed disc. A pressed single-layer DVD (i.e. most PS2 games) can hold a full 4.7GB of data, although most games don't have this much information. Dual-layer discs (like most DVD movies) can hold a full 9.4GB, which as mentioned, is about a GB more than a burnable disc can hold, from what T5-R said. I don't have a DVD burner here, so I'll assume he's correct.

This does mean that GT4 will be that much harder to pirate.. hehe. Dual-layer burners are more expensive than single-layer burners, and the discs themselves are quite a bit more expensive. And if dual-layer DVD-R's only hold 8.5GB of data, than this disc may very well be uncopyable. And yes, they do pirate DVDs all the time, but they do so by recompressing the film to take up a smaller amount of disc space (by sacrificing a good deal of quality), so it can be burned onto a single-layer disc. Compressing video is one thing, you can't compress data that way, especially when it needs to spool from the disc in real-time. Most video games don't even use up a full one layer, so they're fairly easy to copy. Not so for GT4, apparently. Chalk one up for KY.. hehe. :)
 
Oh, right. Thanks. 👍

I'm guessing it'd be arcade/simulation mode? Otherwise flipping the disc seems very unattractive to me. I hated changing discs with the old Final Fantasy games. A lot.
 
Hehe.. it's a standard dual-layer disc. They've been making them for years. 99% of DVDs (movies, etc) produced today are dual-layer. Ever notice about halfway through a movie, it seems to pause for a split-second, then keep playing? That's the layer skip. That's also how they're able to encode over three hours of full-screen video on a single disc. Take a DVD of a TV show, for example. Each disc typically contains four episodes. That's two per layer, so each layer of the disc only contains roughtly 1.5 hours of video, maintaining high quality while still able to fit four or even five episodes on a single disc.

There's no flipping of the disc involved anymore.. the types of discs that required flipping were basically two single-layers in one disc (one on each side). The new ones are dual-layer.. two layers PER SIDE of the disc. The laser is able to focus itself "through" one of the layers to read the second layer. In fact, it's possible to have as many as four layers on one disc, if it's double-sided, dual-layer, two layers per side. It's rare, but it's been done.

Imagine two pieces of tracing paper stacked on top of each other. Each one containing a different picture. It's quite easy to see through the top piece of paper to see the image on the second, without having to remove the top piece (i.e. "flipping the disc").
 
i wonder if there a way to manipulate the way the disc reads...you could be driving from trial mountain to deep forest in one lap....lol.

they'd have a world tour endurance race.
 
Jedi2016
In fact, it's possible to have as many as four layers on one disc, if it's double-sided, dual-layer, two layers per side. It's rare, but it's been done.

blu-ray discs have multiple layers also, but hold a lot more data per layer compared to dvd discs, correct me if i'm wrong..
 
Quite true. Blu-Ray also has dual-layer discs, so it's reasonable to assume they could also do dual-layer, double-sided discs, which would hold over 100GB of information (but would require flipping to get to the other side). From what I've read, each layer of a Blu-Ray disc can hold somewhere around 25GB of data (I forget the exact number).
 
Jedi2016
Quite true. Blu-Ray also has dual-layer discs, so it's reasonable to assume they could also do dual-layer, double-sided discs, which would hold over 100GB of information (but would require flipping to get to the other side). From what I've read, each layer of a Blu-Ray disc can hold somewhere around 25GB of data (I forget the exact number).

you are correct sir :)

http://www.blu-ray.com/info/
 
Well, it don't really make a s**t to me if it's on 2 disc or not to tell ya the truth. :D
once it's copied to my 120GB hard drive, the disc/disc's will likely not see the light of day again.

don't know how many have a HD or not, but it makes a huge amount of difference in GT3.
no more waiting for the game to load or loading between screens, races, etc.... everything is instantanious.
cuts way down on the waiting time & allows for way more driving time. 👍 👍
 
Giancarlo
Oh, right. Thanks. 👍

I'm guessing it'd be arcade/simulation mode? Otherwise flipping the disc seems very unattractive to me. I hated changing discs with the old Final Fantasy games. A lot.

actually you don't have to flip the disk... DVDs operate on the principle of aiming the laser at different angles to access the different layers
like in movies sometimes u have one very brief jerk in the picture it's the dvd player changing the angle of the laser
Arthur
 
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