The Homosexuality Discussion Thread

[Azuremen]

University of riverside, also known as UCR , got in as a freshmen. Almost went to CSUF and CSULB or UCLA , the first two are close, but there call states.The one I went to is a long drive, luckily my uncle rents me a room in his home.

I know the State of California is desperate for money, but dang...

You all were quick to judge. Teach what you preach. ;P just saying you know.

 

[Zenith]

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[TheeFrogmanlego]

What does any of this post mean? Do you think we now believe you're for gay marriage? You've really got your work cut out for you if you're training to be a lawyer. That's a bad thing, by the way.

Who said lying " immoral " .. Please.. nothing immoral according to half of you guys. Lying predates religion But as i stated above my views are solid and if they want to get married so be it, don't impose it on others.

 

[Exorcet]

Gay supporters will pull anything out there ass , monkey eat **** to.

Who is basing gay marriage on what monekies do?

And may I add I said it biologically wrong since the only reason we mate is to reproduce

What we do is up to us and nothing else.

And yes I did say it wrong morally because it is, your the ones throwing out ten thousand years out the window. and if there is a god or a superior being who created us , hes chuckling every time they put appendage d in slot a saying.. fail. Like putting my car keys in the exhaust.

Oh because tradition is correct.

If God is laughing, well, he's not superior. At least not intellectually or morally.

 

[Azuremen]

But as i stated above my views are solid and if they want to get married so be it, don't impose it on others.

How are they imposing it on others by allowing marriage exactly?

Curious question I've got here, but were you home schooled?

 

[Lizard]

: But as i stated above my views are solid and if they want to get married so be it, don't impose it on others.

That is logically and practically impossible. They can't get married without people making it legal so you have to impose the issue on others.

Unless you are saying that they can get married as long as they don't force others to be gay? Then we have just wasted an hour and a half as that is completely the opposite to what you argued. You said you hated gay marriage. Also how are they imposing their gay lifestyle on others may I ask?

 

[Terronium-12]

Who said lying " immoral " .. Please.. nothing immoral according to half of you guys. Lying predates religion But as i stated above my views are solid and if they want to get married so be it, don't impose it on others.

Your views are not "solid" they're based entirely on blatant ignorance.

And to be honest I don't even know what you're arguing in favor anymore; you seem quite indecisive. Or oblivious altogether.

 

[Zenith]

Who said lying " immoral " .. Please.. nothing immoral according to half of you guys. Lying predates religion But as i stated above my views are solid and if they want to get married so be it, don't impose it on others.

Your attempts to troll have been duly noted.

Your failure to respond to the many posts that debunk your argument that gay marriage is unnatural, biologically wrong, and immoral has also been noted.

 

[TheeFrogmanlego]

Again. Its black and white . No ones going to win, why even argue! And half of what I say are satirical remarks at things you guys come up with , the monkeys a come back to the " homosexuality in animals" link. Again. Morals will go back and forward, law wise we go back and forward, but the point is. ITs my point of view, its YOUR point of view. I think its wrong but that does not mean I'm gonna hold them back from marrying each other, The tile of the thread is not about gay marriage but about homosexuality,. I agree with marring them but I find it to a be immoral. How is that a shocker..
and read what i said about Article nine, What I'm saying is, let it be legalized were people agree * one state* and not where its deemed wrong. How is that impossible..

 

[Popmadon]

Originally posted by DGB454
It's a choice not a birth defect.

Defect??! A defect is an imperfection. Do you mean to imply homosexuals are inferior to heterosexuals as they are imperfect?

I would suggest that homosexuality could be one of the following: a choice, or due to environmental, or genetic influences.
If it were a choice, other than being in love, what reason would one choose to turn gay in a society that despises homosexuals?
Furthermore, I'm in (romantic) love with another man and yet have no interest in him sexually, so (for me at least) that rules out the first option.

This leaves environmental and genetic influences, although there is no proof of either, particularly due to the ethical restraints of psychology, one can assume (through Schrödinger's famous paradox) that it could be either influence, or a combination of both.

Who knows, perhaps homosexuality is God's way of controlling over-population

 

[Lizard]

I agree with marring them but I find it to a be immoral. How is that a shocker..

You agree with marriage but you find the idea of being gay in the first place immoral.

Do you even know what you are saying?

 

[Zenith]

Oh yes the guy who is unable to use "too" properly has just been using his massive brain to toy with our arguments.



Once again, nice try, but your kind of trolling would work better if you would use proper grammar.

Don't want to argue? Don't. If you can't handle the heat, stop inviting us to set your hair on fire.

 

[Terronium-12]

Again. Its black and white . No ones going to win, why even argue! And half of what I say are satirical remarks at things you guys come up with , the monkeys a come back to the " homosexuality in animals" link. Again. Morals will go back and forward, law wise we go back and forward, but the point is. ITs my point of view, its YOUR point of view. I think its wrong but that does not mean I'm gonna hold them back from marrying each other, The tile of the thread is not about gay marriage but about homosexuality,. I agree with marring them but I find it to a be immoral. How is that a shocker..

Review your posts before submitting them next time; it's just one contradiction after another.

And, satirical? Really? Nothing you said was satirical.

 

[TheeFrogmanlego]

Defect??! A defect is an imperfection. Do you mean to imply homosexuals are inferior to heterosexuals as they are imperfect?

I would suggest that homosexuality could be one of the following: a choice, or due to environmental, or genetic influences.
If it were a choice, other than being in love, what reason would one choose to turn gay in a society that despises homosexuals?
Furthermore, I'm in (romantic) love with another man and yet have no interest in him sexually, so (for me at least) that rules out the first option.

This leaves environmental and genetic influences, although there is no proof of either, particularly due to the ethical restraints of psychology, one can assume (through Schrödinger's famous paradox) that it could be either influence, or a combination of both.

Who knows, perhaps homosexuality is God's way of controlling over-population

Yup love/lust conundrum. there is proof of the second thing mentioned, although its shot down due to ethics and suggesting homosexuals are inferior.

 

[dice1998]

Again. Its black and white . No ones going to win, why even argue!

I don't think anyone's arguing.

the monkeys a come back to the " homosexuality in animals" link. Again.

What.

Morals will go back and forward, law wise we go back and forward,

Okay

but the point is. ITs my point of view, its YOUR point of view. I think its wrong but that does not mean I'm gonna hold them back from marrying each other,

I'm not sure what being an IT has to do with homosexuality but the IT life will indeed be my POV soon enough. I don't think IT's wrog because IT is where the future's headed. If members of the IT community want to marry each other, homosexual couple or not, so be it.

The tile of the thread is not about gay marriage but about homosexuality,. I agree with marring them but I find it to a be immoral. How is that a shocker..

What's a shocker is why gay marriage isn't included in the genral topic of homosexuality in your tiles.

 

[Azuremen]

Yup love/lust conundrum. there is proof of the second thing mentioned, although its shot down due to ethics and suggesting homosexuals are inferior.

You're the only here that seems to understand what you are saying. If you are going into Law, I imagine being able to clearly present your points would help.

As for the bit about legalizing it one state and not in those that don't agree with it... aren't these all laws that are passed by votes, generally from the public? So wouldn't it stand to reason that the majority of the people in these states do, in fact, support gay marriage? That is how it worked in Washington, how it was suppose to work in California as well, but those of you that think in "black and white" seem hell bent on dictating the personal lives of others.

Oh, and now that I've thought about, if you said CSUR, you meant California State University, then changed it to University of California. You are aware these are related but distinct levels of the California education system?

 

[TheeFrogmanlego]

Eh I really don't care at this point. Proceed without me I have a broken finger to tend to XD

 

[Ranman20]

All I see here is a lot of people who say they believe in god but rebel against him.

 

[Lizard]

All I see here is a lot of people who say they believe in god but rebel against him.

Based on which principles?

I believe in god but I also believe he gave us free will to live how we wanted.

 

[Terronium-12]

All I see here is a lot of people who say they believe in god but rebel against him.

Who said this, and when?

The only person spouting off such was you.

 

[dice1998]

Eh I really don't care at this point. Proceed without me I have a broken finger to tend to XD

What don't you care about? Homosexuality? Your contradictions? Your broken finger? Homosexuality? Gay Marriage? Homosexuality?



Homosexuality?

 

[Azuremen]

Eh I really don't care at this point. Proceed without me I have a broken finger to tend to XD

Wait wait, so you saunter in here, call a group of people inferior, then condemn gay marriage, then tell us you're okay with it, then talk about allowing it in only one state and not in those that don't approve (which is kind of already happening), mix up the name of your college, insult some people, then leave on the excuse of a broken finger?

I felt only using commas would *make it easier* for you to understand what I'm trying to say.

 

[Daniel]

Who knows, perhaps homosexuality is God's way of controlling over-population

 

[Azuremen]

All I see here is a lot of people who say they believe in god but rebel against him.

Not really the correct thread for this, but considering how unjust and cruel most takes of the Abrahamic God actually are, I wouldn't blame them. More so when you think about how people are raised with religion and thus spend a good chunk of their life trying to come to terms with the inconsistencies of it.

 

[Slash]

My dad raised an interesting point to me the other day. He says (he's religious and I am not) that in the bible, marriage is to be between a man and a woman. While he doesn't like homosexuality, and he think it's wrong, he isn't against them marrying, he only wishes that the title/term of "marriage" be changed to something else such as a "moral relationship" or something to that effect because the term marriage was specifically meant for a man and woman. That's how he see's it anyways. I kind of agree.

 

[TheeFrogmanlego]

Wait wait, so you saunter in here, call a group of people inferior, then condemn gay marriage, then tell us you're okay with it, then talk about allowing it in only one state and not in those that don't approve (which is kind of already happening), mix up the name of your college, insult some people, then leave on the excuse of a broken finger?

I felt only using commas would *make it easier* for you to understand what I'm trying to say.

My fingers not broken , I was joking about having an excuse to leave. I just got bored of this conversation. Its fun to see people trip out over things that wont ever stop being argued about.

 

[Zenith]

All I see here is a lot of people who say they believe in god but rebel against him.

Take it to the God thread.

Many people believe in god. Many people believe god said something different than what you believe he said. They have exactly the same amount of authority to interpret the Bible that you do.

 

[Terronium-12]

My fingers not broken , I was joking about having an excuse to leave. I just got bored of this conversation. Its fun to see people trip out over things that wont ever stop being argued about.

You're officially treading the AUP now.

 

[dice1998]

My fingers not broken , I was joking about having an excuse to leave. I just got bored of this conversation. Its fun to see people trip out over things that wont ever stop being argued about.

Wait a minute? You lied?



So I guess you were joking about supporting Homosexuality too, right?

 

[Ranman20]

Based on which principles?

I believe in god but I also believe he gave us free will to live how we wanted.

Homosexuality. Its not meant to be. Here what I have to really say. First off if gays were meant to roam the earth. Wouldn't god just make gays in the first place? Here a small scenrio. Adam and eve are wife and husband. God could had done adam and another man, but no he made man and woman. So homosexuality was created by humans, not common nature. Disagree or agree with me, but its just not right to say gays are naturally born.